Atheists are more intelligent than religious people, say researchers

[steve_bank]

An intelligent person questions their own beliefs and views against reality.

The Abrahamic god is not a nice guy. He drowned all surface life to clean up his own mess.

 

[T.G.G. Moogly]

Thank-you. I understand the story in its religious context.

The point I'm attempting to make is to ask why there is a double standard. Why does the most important character in christian myth get to plan his death in exquisite detail and it's okay but atheists are not, even though most of those deaths, atheist and not, are moments of passion. Why the double standard?

I also asked about children having a lower suicide rate than adults. Aren't adults smarter and therefore happier than kids? If so why would adults kill themselves at a higher rate?

Not sure that I am completely understanding your point, but what I am getting is that you think Jesus' planned death should be considered no different than any other planned death? If this is your intent, you are missing an important part. Jesus' incarnation was for a sole purpose - a perfect sacrifice for atonement of sins. This compares to police or firefighters who risk everything to save lives, not a suicide. Police officers and firefighters go into their job every day knowing that they may have to make the ultimate sacrifice to save someone. The only difference between them and Jesus is that He knew, before he was incarnated, that the ultimate sacrifice would be required and was not just a possibility. I don't see a double standard here; suicides and murders are not intended to save anyone in the vast majority of cases, and even in those cases where they claim that I am dubious about their actual intentions.

Adults may be smarter than kids - but intelligence has nothing to do with happiness. Some of the unhappiest people I have ever met have been highly intelligent. I suspect suicide rates are lower among children simply due to the fact that they don't have ready access to methods for suicide or the knowledge and ability to plan it for the most part.

Ruth

We all do what police and firefighters do every day. If they didn't get paid for their work you might have a point.

Correct that suicide among kids is lower for the reasons you stated, which are the same reasons I would give. Kids simply have less knowledge. More knowledge causes more suicide. Ignorance is bliss.

Jesus has infinite knowledge, religiously speaking, yet planned and executed his death. The reasoning that it is somehow okay is just religious apologetics and the invocation of double standards.

So I think we understand each other and need not belabor the point.

 

[bilby]

Thank-you. I understand the story in its religious context.

The point I'm attempting to make is to ask why there is a double standard. Why does the most important character in christian myth get to plan his death in exquisite detail and it's okay but atheists are not, even though most of those deaths, atheist and not, are moments of passion. Why the double standard?

I also asked about children having a lower suicide rate than adults. Aren't adults smarter and therefore happier than kids? If so why would adults kill themselves at a higher rate?

Not sure that I am completely understanding your point, but what I am getting is that you think Jesus' planned death should be considered no different than any other planned death? If this is your intent, you are missing an important part. Jesus' incarnation was for a sole purpose - a perfect sacrifice for atonement of sins. This compares to police or firefighters who risk everything to save lives, not a suicide. Police officers and firefighters go into their job every day knowing that they may have to make the ultimate sacrifice to save someone. The only difference between them and Jesus is that He knew, before he was incarnated, that the ultimate sacrifice would be required and was not just a possibility. I don't see a double standard here; suicides and murders are not intended to save anyone in the vast majority of cases, and even in those cases where they claim that I am dubious about their actual intentions.

Adults may be smarter than kids - but intelligence has nothing to do with happiness. Some of the unhappiest people I have ever met have been highly intelligent. I suspect suicide rates are lower among children simply due to the fact that they don't have ready access to methods for suicide or the knowledge and ability to plan it for the most part.

Ruth