Ayn Rand Institute takes PPP loan

[Jimmy Higgins]

That is exactly what should have been done. Cut out the businesses entirely, at least from the employee pay angle.

I think that the problem here is that local governments were just not staffed up to handle the unemployment claims as they were. The government wanted PPP to be distributed through the banks.

I pondered if FICA was an avenue. Just reverse pay through that on paychecks. This would make the checks unnecessary, and you tell corps to bank the cash for back payment where needed.

Maybe they lack the computer power to remember what people are paid. Or maybe I'm just stupid and FICA can't work that way at all.

 

[Jason Harvestdancer]

If I recall correctly, the objectivist position is always that if you can take something from the government, then do it. They see it as most of the time you are getting back what they took from you in the first place, and the rest of the time it is "homesteading" property that the government stole and should not have in the first place.

Can you elaborate on this a bit? Let's say that person A stole from me many years ago, but that money got spent. Person A then steals from person B and offers person B's stolen goods to me. Why is it OK to accept the stolen goods, per objectivist philosophy? Wouldn't the moral thing be to accept the stolen goods, but try to return them to their owner(s)?

You'd have to ask an Objectivist that question. They have their justifications.

If I recall correctly, the objectivist position is always that if you can take something from the government, then do it. They see it as most of the time you are getting back what they took from you in the first place, and the rest of the time it is "homesteading" property that the government stole and should not have in the first place.

So basically they are participating in government, paying taxes, receiving benefits and doing everything everyone else does. They are just going "nyah" and wearing a boot on their head while they do it.

You think they are conservoprogressives? How odd.

Can you elaborate on this a bit? Let's say that person A stole from me many years ago, but that money got spent. Person A then steals from person B and offers person B's stolen goods to me. Why is it OK to accept the stolen goods, per objectivist philosophy? Wouldn't the moral thing be to accept the stolen goods, but try to return them to their owner(s)?

Jason is a libertarian, he doesn't believe in morality, just the personal bottom line.

You think I'm a conservoprogressive like Don2? How odd.

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

Libertarian website:

Thank you for joining the Libertarian Party through Vermin Supreme during the 2020 Presidential Recruitment Competition.

https://www.lp.org/verminsupreme/

 

[Jason Harvestdancer]

Libertarian website:

Thank you for joining the Libertarian Party through Vermin Supreme during the 2020 Presidential Recruitment Competition.

https://www.lp.org/verminsupreme/

So the Democratic Party has managed to dump one of their problems onto us. Just remember, he was yours first.

I wonder if this will stop people from saying that libertarians are all disaffected Republicans. I won't hold my breath.

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

As demonstrated from the Libertarian Party website, the Libertarian Party is EMBRACING the guy with the boot on his head.

So KOOKY. That's why Objectivists embrace the LP, too.

Kooky kooky kooky.

 

[Jason Harvestdancer]

As demonstrated from the Libertarian Party website, the Libertarian Party is EMBRACING the guy with the boot on his head.

Embracing him so much that when he tried to become our nominee we said "no".

Maybe it is because he's an ex-Democrat instead of an ex-Republican.

Maybe we should send him back to the Democrats with a message of "thanks but no thanks."

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

As demonstrated from the Libertarian Party website, the Libertarian Party is EMBRACING the guy with the boot on his head.

Embracing him so much that when he tried to become our nominee we said "no".

Maybe it is because he's an ex-Democrat instead of an ex-Republican.

Maybe we should send him back to the Democrats with a message of "thanks but no thanks."

The Libertarian with the boot on his head made more sense than the pedophile, Ayn Rand, and the one who calls covid a plandemic hoax.

 

[BH]

I wonder if Vermin Supreme looks like John Galt.

 

[Jason Harvestdancer]

As demonstrated from the Libertarian Party website, the Libertarian Party is EMBRACING the guy with the boot on his head.

Embracing him so much that when he tried to become our nominee we said "no".

Maybe it is because he's an ex-Democrat instead of an ex-Republican.

Maybe we should send him back to the Democrats with a message of "thanks but no thanks."

The Libertarian with the boot on his head made more sense than the pedophile

So you think he's better than Biden? I never thought I would see the day.