Ben Carson 2016: AP History May Cause Your HS Senior to Join ISIS

[AthenaAwakened]

When speaking at the Center for Security Policy's National Security Action Summit this week, Ben Carson, an author and retired neurosurgeon who provides commentary on Fox News, implied that the College Board's new course framework has an anti-American bias. Over the past few months, conservatives have rallied against the course's new framework, saying it shines an overly harsh light on American history and leaves out information about important historical figures. In August, the Republican National Committee adopted a resolution calling for a push against the course, claiming it "deliberately distorts and/or edits out important historical events."

Carson, who has said he will likely run for president in 2016, apparently agrees with the RNC resolution.

"There's only two paragraphs in there about George Washington ... little or nothing about Martin Luther King, a whole section on slavery and how evil we are, a whole section on Japanese internment camps and how we slaughtered millions of Japanese with our bombs," Carson said at the event.

He continued, "I think most people when they finish that course, they'd be ready to go sign up for ISIS ... We have got to stop this silliness crucifying ourselves."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/10/01/ben-carson-ap-us-history_n_5910982.html

Notice the sin isn't what America did, but talking about what America did.

Run Ben Run.

 

[Nice Squirrel]

I've already signed up.

 

[laughing dog]

The problem with playing to the Republican base is that it turns off the moderates and centrists.

 

[doubtingt]

The problem with playing to the Republican base is that it turns off the moderates and centrists.

Yeah, but "centrist" and "moderate" Republicans are mostly corporatists and/or only care about less taxes on wealth and less regulations on how one can acquire it.
Tell them you'll cut capital gains taxes and gut environmental regulations and they will support any effort to destroy education and civil liberties, and making learning about the past a felony.

 

[laughing dog]

The problem with playing to the Republican base is that it turns off the moderates and centrists.

Yeah, but "centrist" and "moderate" Republicans are mostly corporatists and/or only care about less taxes on wealth and less regulations on how one can acquire it.
Tell them you'll cut capital gains taxes and gut environmental regulations and they will support any effort to destroy education and civil liberties, and making learning about the past a felony.

In order to win the POTUS, you need to garner moderate and centrist votes from independents and other parties, let alone your party.

 

[doubtingt]

Yeah, but "centrist" and "moderate" Republicans are mostly corporatists and/or only care about less taxes on wealth and less regulations on how one can acquire it.
Tell them you'll cut capital gains taxes and gut environmental regulations and they will support any effort to destroy education and civil liberties, and making learning about the past a felony.

In order to win the POTUS, you need to garner moderate and centrist votes from independents and other parties, let alone your party.

True, but a large % of those who self-label "Independents" are of the pseudo-libertarian corporatist variety who vote primarily to increase the power and wealth of the already wealthy (even when they themselves are not wealthy but dumb enough to believe in Randian rhetoric: whether its Ayn Rand, Rand Paul). Remember that many "Independents" are not Republicans only because they think Republicans are not far enough to the right on either economic or social issues.

 

[GenesisNemesis]

Why do people so often think providing facts equals an advocation of something? Oh right, because they're threatened by facts.

 

[Duke Leto]

I can only hope that I have led a sufficiently good life that Odin grants that Ben Carson gets the 2016 GOP nod.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

AP History makes you have to read and be able to use sources to to defend positions. I can see why the uninformed party would want to say this.

 

[Mumbles]

For a guy who spends a lot of time talking about kids should strive to educate himself, he sure...needs to educate himself.

...this could be him milking the rubes, but considering that he openly favors government-supplied health care, and has said that cities should be allowed to restrict access to handguns...it seems more that he's popular among the Tea Party because of that one time he criticized Obamacare (for involving insurance companies)

 

[Blahface]

Isn't it amazing how conservatives always call liberals "cry babies," when they constantly whine about ridiculous made up shit?

 

[AthenaAwakened]

 

[EricK]

When speaking at the Center for Security Policy's National Security Action Summit this week, Ben Carson, an author and retired neurosurgeon who provides commentary on Fox News, implied that the College Board's new course framework has an anti-American bias. Over the past few months, conservatives have rallied against the course's new framework, saying it shines an overly harsh light on American history and leaves out information about important historical figures. In August, the Republican National Committee adopted a resolution calling for a push against the course, claiming it "deliberately distorts and/or edits out important historical events."

Carson, who has said he will likely run for president in 2016, apparently agrees with the RNC resolution.

"There's only two paragraphs in there about George Washington ... little or nothing about Martin Luther King, a whole section on slavery and how evil we are, a whole section on Japanese internment camps and how we slaughtered millions of Japanese with our bombs," Carson said at the event.

He continued, "I think most people when they finish that course, they'd be ready to go sign up for ISIS ... We have got to stop this silliness crucifying ourselves."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/10/01/ben-carson-ap-us-history_n_5910982.html

Notice the sin isn't what America did, but talking about what America did.

Run Ben Run.

Judging just by the quote you supplied, I would say the "sin" he is complaining about isn't talking about what America did but cherry-picking what is talked about to give a biased view.

 

[Mumbles]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/10/01/ben-carson-ap-us-history_n_5910982.html

Notice the sin isn't what America did, but talking about what America did.

Run Ben Run.

Judging just by the quote you supplied, I would say the "sin" he is complaining about isn't talking about what America did but cherry-picking what is talked about to give a biased view.

If that's true, then he's an idiot. Here's the curriculum guide he's rambling on about.

Here's the thing. If you don't understand slavery, as practiced in the US, then you don't understand the US, at any point in time, including today - if only through stereotypes and the black/white wealth disparities. Same thing with the treatment of Native Americans. And there is a section on the Japanese people we fought - in WW2, which is kind of important. The word "evil" appears once - in discussing the growing influence of muckrakers in the Progressive Era of roughly a century ago. In other words, despite his notable advocacy for literacy (and I do commend them)...he needs to read things.

 

[AthenaAwakened]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/10/01/ben-carson-ap-us-history_n_5910982.html

Notice the sin isn't what America did, but talking about what America did.

Run Ben Run.

Judging just by the quote you supplied, I would say the "sin" he is complaining about isn't talking about what America did but cherry-picking what is talked about to give a biased view.

What has the curriculum cherry picked?

BTW

"There's only two paragraphs in there about George Washington ... little or nothing about Martin Luther King,"

^^^
THIS kiddies is what is known as a lie, a lie. Say it with me boys and girls, a LIE.

 

[EricK]

Judging just by the quote you supplied, I would say the "sin" he is complaining about isn't talking about what America did but cherry-picking what is talked about to give a biased view.

What has the curriculum cherry picked?

I have no idea. I was judging solely on the quote you provided.

BTW

"There's only two paragraphs in there about George Washington ... little or nothing about Martin Luther King,"

^^^
THIS kiddies is what is known as a lie, a lie. Say it with me boys and girls, a LIE.

Someone who cares about George Washington shouldn't do that. But perhaps this should have been the thrust of your OP. Otherwise simple-minded people like myself are liable to get confused as to what the issue is.

 

[laughing dog]

What has the curriculum cherry picked?

I have no idea. I was judging solely on the quote you provided.

Since no course or book in American history could cover everything, all of them omit events etc.... So, every single course or book can be viewed as "cherry picking" by someone.

 

[Axulus]

The problem with playing to the Republican base is that it turns off the moderates and centrists.

Isn't the standard playbook to play to the base to win the primary and then move to the center?

 

[Axulus]

When speaking at the Center for Security Policy's National Security Action Summit this week, Ben Carson, an author and retired neurosurgeon who provides commentary on Fox News, implied that the College Board's new course framework has an anti-American bias. Over the past few months, conservatives have rallied against the course's new framework, saying it shines an overly harsh light on American history and leaves out information about important historical figures. In August, the Republican National Committee adopted a resolution calling for a push against the course, claiming it "deliberately distorts and/or edits out important historical events."

Carson, who has said he will likely run for president in 2016, apparently agrees with the RNC resolution.

"There's only two paragraphs in there about George Washington ... little or nothing about Martin Luther King, a whole section on slavery and how evil we are, a whole section on Japanese internment camps and how we slaughtered millions of Japanese with our bombs," Carson said at the event.

He continued, "I think most people when they finish that course, they'd be ready to go sign up for ISIS ... We have got to stop this silliness crucifying ourselves."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/10/01/ben-carson-ap-us-history_n_5910982.html

Notice the sin isn't what America did, but talking about what America did.

Run Ben Run.

How evil "we" are? Did he suddenly forget that this is 2014, not 1850 and that none of us were alive at this time? Or is he falling for the brain dead idea of collective responsibility that has brought about so much evil upon the world?

 

[laughing dog]

The problem with playing to the Republican base is that it turns off the moderates and centrists.

Isn't the standard playbook to play to the base to win the primary and then move to the center?

And look how that worked for Romney. Once the stupid comes out the piehole, it is there for all to be reminded.