California passes trio of gun control bills, including lifetime ban on domestic violence convicts

[phands]

About bloody time...

California lawmakers passed three gun control bills Monday, including a lifetime ban on owning firearms for people convicted of domestic violence, days after a gunman in Jacksonville, Florida opened fire at a video game tournament, killing two people and injuring 14.
The Democratic-controlled legislature sent the domestic violence bill, as well as two other measures — a lifetime ban on people placed on involuntary psychiatric holds twice in one year and new standard for residents to obtain a concealed weapon permit (eight hours of training and pass a live-fire shooting test) — to Gov. Jerry Brown’s (D) desk for consideration.
“We must do more to ensure the safety of our survivors of domestic violence,” said Assemblywoman Blanca Rubio (D) on Monday, of the bill that extends the current 10-year ban.

The measures still await Brown’s signature, but California will likely soon join 26 states that have passed at least 55 new gun control laws, according to a July report from the Giffords Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence — a significant spike following the Parkland, Florida high school massacre in February, when a gunman killed 17 people, sparking a youth-led activist movement.
Nine of the 26 states recently passed measures aimed at preventing domestic violence offenders from getting guns. Oregon became the first state to pass any kind of gun control legislation since the Parkland shooting; state lawmakers closed the so-called “boyfriend loophole,” banning those convicted of domestic violence against partners they aren’t married to from purchasing guns.
Federal law prohibits people convicted of domestic violence misdemeanors and abusers subject to protective orders from purchasing and possessing firearms. But there are significant limitations. For example, federal law does not apply to family members other than a spouse or a child. It also does not include non-spouse relationships, such as girlfriends and friends, and does not apply to stalkers. Nor does the law require convicts to surrender their guns. This is why state lawmakers enact their own measures.
California has among the strongest laws prohibiting domestic abusers from getting guns, according the Giffords Law Center. Currently, the state bans the purchase and possession of guns and ammunition of any person convicted of assault, battery, or stalking regardless of their relationship with the victim/survivor. If Brown signs the measure into law, it’ll be a lifetime ban.

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The NRA will no doubt be crying persecution....

 

[Worldtraveller]

If the NRA complains too much, we'll send them thoughts and prayers.

 

[RavenSky]

If the NRA complains too much, we'll send them thoughts and prayers.

You can.

I'll be wearing Melania's jacket for them.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

I'm mixed here:

Domestic violence: Fully agree. Domestic violence is a major predictor of snapping. DV convictions should take away guns.

CCW requirements: While I have no problem with the amount of training I have my standard objection to mandated training. That's always a cop-out, what counts is that you know it, not time in a classroom.

Psych holds: Sounds good, but once again the baby with the bathwater. What counts is why they got put on a psych hold, not all psych holds are proper (you can get a psych hold because you misunderstood and thought suicidal, you can get a psych hold because a bad cop lied) and a psych hold can be triggered by a bad reaction to something.

 

[fast]

I'm not mixed. Sink California. Where's the aerosol cans when I need them? I have co2 to unleash upon the atmosphere--got glaciers to melt. Think I'll go crank the ole truck up and let it run. Why--try and take my guns away! You people should be labeled a hate group. What's a little CDV anyway, compared to our mighty constitutional right to bare arms--or arm bears--whatever the hell it is.

 

[Cheerful Charlie]

Down here in good ol' Redneck Texas, we have had mandatory classroom training for CCW licenses for years, and we have survived. This includes the legal problems of shooting somebody in self defense, if you do that. If you carry a gun, you should have to know the law. For your own protection. This is called common sense.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Down here in good ol' Redneck Texas, we have had mandatory classroom training for CCW licenses for years, and we have survived. This includes the legal problems of shooting somebody in self defense, if you do that. If you carry a gun, you should have to know the law. For your own protection. This is called common sense.

I'm not saying the mandatory classroom time is all that bad. One certainly should know what's being taught before carrying. My only objection with it is that I dislike using classroom time requirements in lieu of testing for the knowledge the classroom was to impart. If it were on the ballot I would probably vote for it--it's a good idea, just not the best approach.

We got it right with cars: Demonstrate you know the law, demonstrate you know the skills, you get your permit. There's no requirement for driver's training classes, you're free to learn from anyone.