Columbia University is colluding with the far-right in its attack on students

[Derec]

Now the anti-Israel creeps at University of Minnesota have occupied a building, similar to what Columbia students did in the Summer.
11 pro-Palestinian protesters are arrested after occupying building at University of Minnesota

Unlikely that far-left Mary Moriarty will pursue any actual charges though.

 

[Derec]

Columbia Students Allegedly Sprayed With Putrid Chemical at Pro-Palestine Rally

In other words, unsubstantiated allegations from members of Palestinian groups written about in a student newspaper.

The NYPD investigated the reported chemical attack and the student responsible was suspended, which he thinks is unfair because he says it was a novelty gag spray, and never mind that it's still assault to spray that shit at people and appears to have been done to disrupt a peaceful political protest.

I'm sure Columbia's Code of Conduct forbids students from spraying chemical irritants at each other.

It turns out it was "fart spray" and the claims that it was skunk were just lies by the Israel haters.

Columbia pays $395,000 to student suspended over protest ‘fart spray’

Columbia University has reached a $395,000 settlement with a student who was suspended in January after spraying student protesters with a foul-smelling substance at one of several campus demonstrations in support of Palestine.
The Israeli student who received the payout had been suspended until May.
The case was first described as a possible chemical attack involving the use of skunk spray, an agent developed in Israel and used as a crowd-control weapon, most commonly in the Israeli-occupied West Bank. But Columbia has said the spray used was novelty, non-toxic fart spray, bought on Amazon for $26.11, and not a chemical agent.
A lawsuit that the student filed against Columbia in April had first asserted that he had deployed the fart spray in question on the demonstrators “as a harmless expression of his speech” relying on a product that is marketed as Liquid Ass – and is readily available for consumer purchase.

Liquid Ass: Prank Fart Spray, Gag Gift for Adults and Kids, Great for Pranks and A Good Laugh, Extra Strong Poop Spray, Non Toxic, Keep Out of Reach from Children

 

[Derec]

Pittsburgh ‘Hamas operative’ allegedly bought explosives, vandalized Jewish buildings — and donated to Squad Democrats

The FBI and Pittsburgh police arrested two Pittsburgh-area residents Wednesday on hate-crime charges for allegedly damaging or defacing Jewish buildings in July.
Shockingly one of those individuals, Mohamad Hamad, self-identified as a “Hamas operative,” purchased and tested explosive materials for a future fireball and was a Pennsylvania Air National Guard member stationed near Pittsburgh International Airport, according to the criminal complaint.
The US and Lebanese dual citizen also donated to Squad Democrats who have called Israel’s year-long-war in Gaza a genocide and pushed for a US arms embargo on the Jewish state as it fights Iran and its terrorist proxies.

 

[Arctish]

Columbia Students Allegedly Sprayed With Putrid Chemical at Pro-Palestine Rally

In other words, unsubstantiated allegations from members of Palestinian groups written about in a student newspaper.

The NYPD investigated the reported chemical attack and the student responsible was suspended, which he thinks is unfair because he says it was a novelty gag spray, and never mind that it's still assault to spray that shit at people and appears to have been done to disrupt a peaceful political protest.

I'm sure Columbia's Code of Conduct forbids students from spraying chemical irritants at each other.

It turns out it was "fart spray" and the claims that it was skunk were just lies by the Israel haters.

Columbia pays $395,000 to student suspended over protest ‘fart spray’

Columbia University has reached a $395,000 settlement with a student who was suspended in January after spraying student protesters with a foul-smelling substance at one of several campus demonstrations in support of Palestine.
The Israeli student who received the payout had been suspended until May.
The case was first described as a possible chemical attack involving the use of skunk spray, an agent developed in Israel and used as a crowd-control weapon, most commonly in the Israeli-occupied West Bank. But Columbia has said the spray used was novelty, non-toxic fart spray, bought on Amazon for $26.11, and not a chemical agent.
A lawsuit that the student filed against Columbia in April had first asserted that he had deployed the fart spray in question on the demonstrators “as a harmless expression of his speech” relying on a product that is marketed as Liquid Ass – and is readily available for consumer purchase.

Liquid Ass: Prank Fart Spray, Gag Gift for Adults and Kids, Great for Pranks and A Good Laugh, Extra Strong Poop Spray, Non Toxic, Keep Out of Reach from Children

So he did spray a chemical irritant, an act which is currently being investigated by the NYPD as a possible hate crime, to disrupt a gathering of fellow students, some of whom experienced symptoms severe enough they sought treatment at a local hospital and at least one of whom was put on an IV and given medication to treat the effects of “chemical exposure”, and you're pinning your defense on the stuff being an over-the-counter chemical spray, not a restricted one?

I haven't read Columbia's Code of Conduct rules but I doubt it permits assault and battery. So I'm wondering if the payout is because Columbia didn't follow its own rules regarding how COC violations are handled, or if it's just an attempt to bury the controversy and make the investigations go away.

 

[ZiprHead]

Columbia Students Allegedly Sprayed With Putrid Chemical at Pro-Palestine Rally

In other words, unsubstantiated allegations from members of Palestinian groups written about in a student newspaper.

The NYPD investigated the reported chemical attack and the student responsible was suspended, which he thinks is unfair because he says it was a novelty gag spray, and never mind that it's still assault to spray that shit at people and appears to have been done to disrupt a peaceful political protest.

I'm sure Columbia's Code of Conduct forbids students from spraying chemical irritants at each other.

It turns out it was "fart spray" and the claims that it was skunk were just lies by the Israel haters.

Columbia pays $395,000 to student suspended over protest ‘fart spray’

Columbia University has reached a $395,000 settlement with a student who was suspended in January after spraying student protesters with a foul-smelling substance at one of several campus demonstrations in support of Palestine.
The Israeli student who received the payout had been suspended until May.
The case was first described as a possible chemical attack involving the use of skunk spray, an agent developed in Israel and used as a crowd-control weapon, most commonly in the Israeli-occupied West Bank. But Columbia has said the spray used was novelty, non-toxic fart spray, bought on Amazon for $26.11, and not a chemical agent.
A lawsuit that the student filed against Columbia in April had first asserted that he had deployed the fart spray in question on the demonstrators “as a harmless expression of his speech” relying on a product that is marketed as Liquid Ass – and is readily available for consumer purchase.

Liquid Ass: Prank Fart Spray, Gag Gift for Adults and Kids, Great for Pranks and A Good Laugh, Extra Strong Poop Spray, Non Toxic, Keep Out of Reach from Children

So he did spray a chemical irritant, an act which is currently being investigated by the NYPD as a possible hate crime, to disrupt a gathering of fellow students, some of whom experienced symptoms severe enough they sought treatment at a local hospital and at least one of whom was put on an IV and given medication to treat the effects of “chemical exposure”, and you're pinning your defense on the stuff being an over-the-counter chemical spray, not a restricted one?

I haven't read Columbia's Code of Conduct rules but I doubt it permits assault and battery. So I'm wondering if the payout is because Columbia didn't follow its own rules regarding how COC violations are handled, or if it's just an attempt to bury the controversy and make the investigations go away.

I would think the lawsuits he should be charged with should put a huge dent in that payout.

 

[Derec]

I would think the lawsuits he should be charged with should put a huge dent in that payout.

What lawsuits? By whom? Those malingering Hamas fans who were lying about the nature of the spray?

 

[Derec]

So he did spray a chemical irritant,

It's not an irritant. It's a non-toxic novelty spray. It just stinks.
It's admittedly a chemical, but so is everything.

an act which is currently being investigated by the NYPD as a possible hate crime, to disrupt a gathering of fellow students, some of whom experienced symptoms severe enough they sought treatment at a local hospital and at least one of whom was put on an IV and given medication to treat the effects of “chemical exposure”, and you're pinning your defense on the stuff being an over-the-counter chemical spray, not a restricted one?

I.e. they made a false claim to NYPD and malingered.

I haven't read Columbia's Code of Conduct rules but I doubt it permits assault and battery.

Using a gag spray is "assault and battery"?

So I'm wondering if the payout is because Columbia didn't follow its own rules regarding how COC violations are handled

They gave a student a lengthy suspension based on false claims made by pro-Hamas students.

Meanwhile, these students are not even trying to hide their allegiances.
Pro-Palestinian Columbia University group calls for armed resistance: 'violence is the only path'

A group of pro-Palestinian students at Columbia University are scaling up their rhetoric against Israel, calling for "liberation by any means necessary, including armed resistance."
In a statement posted to Instagram Tuesday, Columbia University Apartheid Divest rescinded its apology made in April on behalf of a member who told school officials, "Be grateful that I’m not just going out and murdering Zionists."
[...]
On the one-year anniversary of the Hamas attacks, the Columbia student group disseminated newspaper copies with the headline, "One Year Since Al-Aqsa Flood, Revolution Until Victory," and posted an essay calling the assault a "moral, military and political victory," the New York Times reported.

 

[laughing dog]

Columbia Students Allegedly Sprayed With Putrid Chemical at Pro-Palestine Rally

In other words, unsubstantiated allegations from members of Palestinian groups written about in a student newspaper.

The NYPD investigated the reported chemical attack and the student responsible was suspended, which he thinks is unfair because he says it was a novelty gag spray, and never mind that it's still assault to spray that shit at people and appears to have been done to disrupt a peaceful political protest.

I'm sure Columbia's Code of Conduct forbids students from spraying chemical irritants at each other.

It turns out it was "fart spray" and the claims that it was skunk were just lies by the Israel haters.

Columbia pays $395,000 to student suspended over protest ‘fart spray’

Columbia University has reached a $395,000 settlement with a student who was suspended in January after spraying student protesters with a foul-smelling substance at one of several campus demonstrations in support of Palestine.
The Israeli student who received the payout had been suspended until May.
The case was first described as a possible chemical attack involving the use of skunk spray, an agent developed in Israel and used as a crowd-control weapon, most commonly in the Israeli-occupied West Bank. But Columbia has said the spray used was novelty, non-toxic fart spray, bought on Amazon for $26.11, and not a chemical agent.
A lawsuit that the student filed against Columbia in April had first asserted that he had deployed the fart spray in question on the demonstrators “as a harmless expression of his speech” relying on a product that is marketed as Liquid Ass – and is readily available for consumer purchase.

Liquid Ass: Prank Fart Spray, Gag Gift for Adults and Kids, Great for Pranks and A Good Laugh, Extra Strong Poop Spray, Non Toxic, Keep Out of Reach from Children

Let me get this straight. First you complain that Columbia University is too lenient with protesters but you don’t think an almost $400k payout is ok?

 

[ZiprHead]

Using a gag spray is "assault and battery"?

Yes. It doesn't matter if it's just plain water. It's still assault and battery.

But just for you I looked it up. Here is the caution label from the back of the bottle.



You do not spray it into someone's face, especially if someone has respiratory issues or is allergic.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

I haven't read Columbia's Code of Conduct rules but I doubt it permits assault and battery.

Using a gag spray is "assault and battery"?

Probably.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

This seems close enough I'm not putting it in it's own thread:

Terrorist convicted of murdering 4 in Paris synagogue is lecturer at Canadian university

Dr. Hassan Diab was convicted in France and sentenced to life imprisonment for the murder of four people, including one Israeli, in a terrorist attack in Paris in 1980; He fled France and, despite the demand for his extradition, will lecture at Carleton University in Canada

www.ynetnews.com

Nice job, Canada. Instead of extraditing the Islamist murderer you have him teaching.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

The case seems very iffy. I'm not clicking your link due to likely bias, so I have no idea if it includes what is in the CBC article about the case in 2023. Canada isn't exactly the LCD of morality, so they aren't the best target for claiming they'd protect a murderer. After all, they did arrest him, he was extradited to France. France's own case fell apart.

He was arrested by the RCMP in November 2008 and placed under strict bail conditions until he was extradited to France in 2014. He spent more than three years in prison in France before the case against him collapsed.

He was released in January 2018 after two French judges ruled the evidence against him wasn't strong enough to take to trial. He was never formally charged.

This doesn't mean he isn't guilty, but there seem to be legal issues with the trial.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

https://www.cnn.com/2024/11/07/europe/israel-soccer-fans-attacked-amsterdam-intl-hnk/index.html

Meanwhile, is it anti-Semitism... or just football hooligans being football hooligans.

Amsterdam Mayor Femke Halsema said criminals on scooters searched the city in search of Maccabi supporters in “hit-and-run” attacks. “This is a terrible moment for our city. … I am very ashamed of the behavior that was shown last night,” she said in a Friday news conference.

Amsterdam authorities said Friday morning that five injured Israeli soccer fans have since been released from the hospital, and 20 to 30 other people were lightly injured. In total, 63 individuals were arrested and 10 remain in custody, police said.

Tensions had been rising in the lead up to Thursday night’s match with multiple social media videos showing Maccabi fans chanting anti-Arab slurs, praising Israeli military attacks in Gaza and yelling “f**k the Arabs.”

Football Hooligans, the Poe breaker of sports.

 

[laughing dog]

https://www.cnn.com/2024/11/07/europe/israel-soccer-fans-attacked-amsterdam-intl-hnk/index.html

Meanwhile, is it anti-Semitism... or just football hooligans being football hooligans.

Amsterdam Mayor Femke Halsema said criminals on scooters searched the city in search of Maccabi supporters in “hit-and-run” attacks. “This is a terrible moment for our city. … I am very ashamed of the behavior that was shown last night,” she said in a Friday news conference.

Amsterdam authorities said Friday morning that five injured Israeli soccer fans have since been released from the hospital, and 20 to 30 other people were lightly injured. In total, 63 individuals were arrested and 10 remain in custody, police said.

Tensions had been rising in the lead up to Thursday night’s match with multiple social media videos showing Maccabi fans chanting anti-Arab slurs, praising Israeli military attacks in Gaza and yelling “f**k the Arabs.”

Football Hooligans, the Poe breaker of sports.

Football hooligans can be anti-semitic. It’s not as if antisemitism is unheard of in the Netherlands.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

The case seems very iffy. I'm not clicking your link due to likely bias, so I have no idea if it includes what is in the CBC article about the case in 2023. Canada isn't exactly the LCD of morality, so they aren't the best target for claiming they'd protect a murderer. After all, they did arrest him, he was extradited to France. France's own case fell apart.

He was arrested by the RCMP in November 2008 and placed under strict bail conditions until he was extradited to France in 2014. He spent more than three years in prison in France before the case against him collapsed.

He was released in January 2018 after two French judges ruled the evidence against him wasn't strong enough to take to trial. He was never formally charged.

This doesn't mean he isn't guilty, but there seem to be legal issues with the trial.

Compare the two articles.

The one I posted said he was "released to house arrest", not that the case fell apart.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

https://www.cnn.com/2024/11/07/europe/israel-soccer-fans-attacked-amsterdam-intl-hnk/index.html

Meanwhile, is it anti-Semitism... or just football hooligans being football hooligans.

Amsterdam Mayor Femke Halsema said criminals on scooters searched the city in search of Maccabi supporters in “hit-and-run” attacks. “This is a terrible moment for our city. … I am very ashamed of the behavior that was shown last night,” she said in a Friday news conference.

Amsterdam authorities said Friday morning that five injured Israeli soccer fans have since been released from the hospital, and 20 to 30 other people were lightly injured. In total, 63 individuals were arrested and 10 remain in custody, police said.

Tensions had been rising in the lead up to Thursday night’s match with multiple social media videos showing Maccabi fans chanting anti-Arab slurs, praising Israeli military attacks in Gaza and yelling “f**k the Arabs.”

Football Hooligans, the Poe breaker of sports.

I posted a separate thread on it--because it's not just football hooligans.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

https://www.cnn.com/2024/11/07/europe/israel-soccer-fans-attacked-amsterdam-intl-hnk/index.html

Meanwhile, is it anti-Semitism... or just football hooligans being football hooligans.

Amsterdam Mayor Femke Halsema said criminals on scooters searched the city in search of Maccabi supporters in “hit-and-run” attacks. “This is a terrible moment for our city. … I am very ashamed of the behavior that was shown last night,” she said in a Friday news conference.

Amsterdam authorities said Friday morning that five injured Israeli soccer fans have since been released from the hospital, and 20 to 30 other people were lightly injured. In total, 63 individuals were arrested and 10 remain in custody, police said.

Tensions had been rising in the lead up to Thursday night’s match with multiple social media videos showing Maccabi fans chanting anti-Arab slurs, praising Israeli military attacks in Gaza and yelling “f**k the Arabs.”

Football Hooligans, the Poe breaker of sports.

I posted a separate thread on it--because it's not just football hooligans.

Wtf would you know about football hooligans?

As LD notes, it is probably both.

 

[laughing dog]

The case seems very iffy. I'm not clicking your link due to likely bias, so I have no idea if it includes what is in the CBC article about the case in 2023. Canada isn't exactly the LCD of morality, so they aren't the best target for claiming they'd protect a murderer. After all, they did arrest him, he was extradited to France. France's own case fell apart.

He was arrested by the RCMP in November 2008 and placed under strict bail conditions until he was extradited to France in 2014. He spent more than three years in prison in France before the case against him collapsed.

He was released in January 2018 after two French judges ruled the evidence against him wasn't strong enough to take to trial. He was never formally charged.

This doesn't mean he isn't guilty, but there seem to be legal issues with the trial.

Compare the two articles.

The one I posted said he was "released to house arrest", not that the case fell apart.

He was tried “in absentia” which is sufficient in my view to suggest less than a fair trial.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Canada extridited him to France. He was detained for three years, no trial. That sounds like the case fell apart. Typically after extradition, there is a trial.

This case has been bouncing around in appeals all over the place. The evidence linking him is handwriting. That is it.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

The case seems very iffy. I'm not clicking your link due to likely bias, so I have no idea if it includes what is in the CBC article about the case in 2023. Canada isn't exactly the LCD of morality, so they aren't the best target for claiming they'd protect a murderer. After all, they did arrest him, he was extradited to France. France's own case fell apart.

He was arrested by the RCMP in November 2008 and placed under strict bail conditions until he was extradited to France in 2014. He spent more than three years in prison in France before the case against him collapsed.

He was released in January 2018 after two French judges ruled the evidence against him wasn't strong enough to take to trial. He was never formally charged.

This doesn't mean he isn't guilty, but there seem to be legal issues with the trial.

Compare the two articles.

The one I posted said he was "released to house arrest", not that the case fell apart.

He was tried “in absentia” which is sufficient in my view to suggest less than a fair trial.

The fact that he fled house arrest makes me not too bothered with the tried in absentia bit.