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Let's Go Dark Brandon!
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This blogger argues that. On Reddit, I happened to get the chance to ask him some questions. Mainly, what the specific accusations against Bruno were, and how many/which were required for the penalty of imprisonment/execution. These were the accusations:
Tim said that any one of those accusations would have been sufficient for imprisonment/execution if they were proven. I'd say that kind of weakens the argument that Cosmos oversimplified the story of Bruno; moreover, I highly doubt that the Inquisition adhered to a strict definition of "heresy", and it's plausible that simply "claiming the existence of a plurality of worlds and their eternity;" would have been sufficient. In addition, that would have been seen as a violation of Catholic teachings, so of course Bruno was "holding opinions contrary to the Catholic faith". If someone is holding opinions contrary to the Catholic faith, all else follows. Also, he mentions Nicholas of Cusa, a theologian, who Bruno drew inspiration from, but does not mention that Nicholas of Cusa was actually charged with heresy by another theologian, though it was not an official charge. He wrote "Apologia doctae ignorantiae", or "The Defense of Learned Ignorance" in response. The reason he wasn't executed was probably because he got lucky.
*holding opinions contrary to the Catholic faith and speaking against it and its ministers;
*holding opinions contrary to the Catholic faith about the Trinity, divinity of Christ, and Incarnation;
*holding opinions contrary to the Catholic faith pertaining to Jesus as Christ;
*holding opinions contrary to the Catholic faith regarding the virginity of Mary, mother of Jesus;
*holding opinions contrary to the Catholic faith about both Transubstantiation and Mass;
*claiming the existence of a plurality of worlds and their eternity;
*believing in metempsychosis and in the transmigration of the human soul into brutes;
*dealing in magics and divination.
From Luigi Firpo, Il processo di Giordano Bruno ( Napoli, 1949)
Tim said that any one of those accusations would have been sufficient for imprisonment/execution if they were proven. I'd say that kind of weakens the argument that Cosmos oversimplified the story of Bruno; moreover, I highly doubt that the Inquisition adhered to a strict definition of "heresy", and it's plausible that simply "claiming the existence of a plurality of worlds and their eternity;" would have been sufficient. In addition, that would have been seen as a violation of Catholic teachings, so of course Bruno was "holding opinions contrary to the Catholic faith". If someone is holding opinions contrary to the Catholic faith, all else follows. Also, he mentions Nicholas of Cusa, a theologian, who Bruno drew inspiration from, but does not mention that Nicholas of Cusa was actually charged with heresy by another theologian, though it was not an official charge. He wrote "Apologia doctae ignorantiae", or "The Defense of Learned Ignorance" in response. The reason he wasn't executed was probably because he got lucky.