Yeah sure,,ok..
..and If it ain't the church... it's the banks, or the politics, or the Russians, or the Jews, or the Muslims etc & etc...
...so, what if it's
you who's not the normal one in a screwed world, going against the nature whereby 'being screwed is the norm?
Speaking of getting screwed, there are no blowjobs in heaven because that's sodomy.
On the other hand, in hell, there are infinite blowjobs, just not the ones you want.
I think I prefer earth, at least with respect to the blowjob situation.
Ewww, the abominable thought came all of a sudden, reading your post.
I mean ...could you imagine (urrck,..don't..
). Blowjobs in the ideal heaven you seem to portray, would no doubt include everyone including close relatives, wives, daughters, sons,uncles aunts, cousins,granny grand-pa, neighbours etc. all free to be committing sodomy for eternity where everyone can walk around naked, advertising their bits,
uurrr...
uurrurch..sorry.
Um yeah, so, God seems to have
thought it through...
... best leave it on earth (or hell in your paradigm) where the orgasm rules.
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https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10903593/
Learner, it appears as if you don't understand the relationship between the brain and sexual orgasm. It's the brain that influences orgasm.
Perhaps you don't realise by saying 'the brain that influences the orgasm' also includes for example: implications to frequent guests who went specially o Epstein's secret parties, apparently for underage females etc.
'The brain influences the orgasm' includes people who force their wills against the wills of others i.e. to rape. And, for the sake of the irresistible orgasm, there's blackmail,bribery - people who are willingly to give sexual favours, willingly providing the orgasm merely for financial gain, or elevating ones corporate position, or even fame? There's Incest...urrrrrupp (adult taking advantage and manipulating a young mind).
In this sense, I say orgasm rules ( the worldly inclined).
Orgasm, especially for women like me, who at least until my mid 70s easily experienced multiple orgasms with each encounter with my husband, was indeed a heavenly experience. Plus there is research that gives evidence that orgasma are a very healthy thing for both men and women.
The husband and wife package ...
..um yes, seem to be ok with the bible.
I know that some religions teach that masturbation is a sin. I think that it's mean to deny one to sexually pleasure themselves. it's harmless unless one becomes so obsessed that at it keeps them from functioning in other ways. It doesn't cause disease. It doesn't cause unwanted pregnancies, and it takes little effort, so what kind of mean old god would deny anyone, especially those who don't have a partner or those who are too young to have a partner, the right to pleasure themselves?
Continuing from the top responses above. Sexual pleasure (the extreme, out of hand) can destroy relationships or ruin families, once the individual is exposed.
Sexual persuasions can cause the 'sexually besotted' or the 'depraved to cause harm or even kill people for the sake of the orgasm, i.e. vulnerable to manipulation -- lust takes control.
All of this is in the same group of your description, 'the brain influences the orgasm'.
Women are often very good at this. Books have been written about how women pleasure themselves and the wide variety of things we fantasize about. If a woman learns how to do it right, we are capable of having dozens of orgasms in one episode. What good would heaven be without sexual pleasure between consenting angels? If god created everything, then she created sexual pleasure. Why wouldn't that be a reward if there was an actual heaven? Why must so many things be condemned by so many religions?
Like the above responses...
...It's simply about those who have self control, and those who lose it ..willingly.
Sexual pleasure is a cognitive experience based on the reciprocal relationship between bodily physiology and nervous system function. That is, specific brain activity stimulates physiological responses in the genital system that in turn generates sensory nerve feedback to the brain, whose neurons generate pleasure. In this essay, we speculate on the process by which known neuronal functions of the brain could account for the cognitive experience of sexual pleasure. We hope that this approach will increase the understanding of the reader unfamiliar with this level of analysis, and illuminate future research.
As the above responses, I was talking more about the misuse, causing destructive harm.
What exactly do you mean? Sex should always be consensual and an adult can't get consent from a minor. That would be immoral. Sex can become an obsession, just like anything else. ( See my link below these comments ) Rape is a sick fetish where the rapist gets off on seeing their victim display fear.
That is likely a sickness that needs to be treated if someone has the urge and gets help before committing the crime.
Consensual satisfying sex is very healthy. I once told a patient, when I worked as the only nurse in a small assisted living facility, who was lonely and sexually frustrated, that it was okay for him to close and lock his door, fantasize and masturbate. The next time I visited him, he thanked me and told me he felt much better. He never hurt anyone. He suffered from bipolar disorder and had been abused as a child. My former patients, many who were Christain women told me about the affairs they were having with some of the men in the facility where I worked. Most told me that the men had problems with erections but they enjoyed the intimacy, the kissing and touching each other's bodies. These were people in their 70s and 80s. There is no harm in that. It was good for them. Any religion that condemns such behavior is sick. Btw, one of the ladies was the widow of a pastor.
Like I said, anything can become an obsession.
https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/religious-ocd
Religious OCD, or scrupulosity, is a subtype of obsessive-compulsive disorder (OCD) where a person experiences obsessions and compulsions that fixate on religion or morality. Treatment can involve medication, therapy, or a combination of both.
Religious OCD symptoms
According to the
International OCD Foundation, symptoms of religious OCD can vary from obsessive thoughts to compulsive behaviors.
Obsessions
Obsessions can be repetitive mental images, thoughts, or urges. They are sometimes referred to as “
intrusive thoughts.”
A person’s obsessions may focus on a fear of angering their god or a religious deity, or committing blasphemy. Examples of obsessions may
include:
- fear of going to hell or being punished by God
- being overly moral
- fear of having committed a sin
- constantly striving for purity
- fear of the loss of impulse control
- fear of death
- doubting what a person feels or believes
- fear of being possessed
- a need to acquire certainty about religious beliefs
I sometimes think that my parents, who converted to evangelicalism were suffering from some type of religious obsession. They dragged my sister and me to the Billy Graham crusades in NYC when we were young. They told us our Catholic friends were going to hell if we didn't witness to them and "save" them from hell. We were forced to spend almost our entire Sundays in church, as well as going to Vacation Bible School in the summer and a Bible study weekly that was given by a retired missionary who lived nearby. It was sick!
I think my mom, while still a believer no longer thought that anyone outside of her religion would be sent to hell to be tortured for eternity. My father, who. suffered from severer combat related PTSD started to think that despite being "saved", he might be sent to hell for his combat experiences during WWII. That to me is a serious, sick obsession, probably more harmful compared to someone who is a bit obsessed with sex, especially if it's simply self pleasuring, which is a totally harmless practice, compared to obsessing over religious beliefs.
I know we are a bit off topic, but anyone who literally believes that people who don't believe the same religious mythology that they do will be punished by their all loving god, has some type of mental problem imo. I think our childhood damaged my sister emotionally. I got over it. I'm a person who cares about others and while I think religion is absurd, I do understand that some people need it. It gives them comfort and community. Depending on the version, it might provide them with a moral base. It also helps those who are unable to accept their own mortality, by believing there is some heavenly afterlife waiting for them. I don't fear death but I do fear dependency because as a retired nurse who mostly cared for older adults, I know how awful that can be. Death often relieves suffering.
I think my sister remains some type of Christian primarily for the coffee and donuts if you get my drift. But, when she was young, I think she did suffer from a religious obsession. She was constantly praying and asking forgiveness for her sins. She had a lot of guilt for no apparent reason. She suffered from anxiety, but as a teen and young adult, she drank too much and experimented with all kinds of drugs. She is a lot better now, happily married and only goes to church for the social activities, although she may still have some fears that people like me are going to hell. She still suffers from anxiety and has to take meds for that. Perhaps if we had not been indoctrinated in such a horrible religion, she would not have suffered so much.
Sexual pleasure is a natural part of life. Religion is something that was invented to divide us. it's been the cause of many wars. There are people who are still imprisoned or tortured for being non believers or for having the "wrong" religion. Religion damages far more people compared to sex.
I hope that you don't think that those who have different beliefs from your own are going to be punished by your god. That is a very unhealthy belief. My Christian friends are more liberal. They don't believe that people of other religions or no religion are going to be punished in some miserable afterlife. That at least is somewhat rational, even if the supernatural parts have no basis in reality. I think you try to be a good person and if your religion helps you be more charitable, good for you. If it's an obsession, please get help. You'll be a happier person if you can relieve yourself of a religious obsession.
Back to the OP. No, I don't believe in heaven. My heaven is now and it consists of having a loving husband, dogs, friends, a comfortable lifestyle, reading books, enjoying nature, and doing volunteer work to help other older adults cope. Heaven on earth is all we have. Sadly some people have hell on earth.
