El-o-Hym might well exist but El-o-Hym is nothing like what people think

[no-one-particular]

El-o-Hym might well exist but El-o-Hym is nothing like what people think.

El-o-Hym = ολω-Human = All-Human = No ego
"Human" is used here in the sense of "Logical"
as opposed to "Animals" which are illogical.

El = ολως = All = Infinity

John 1:
In the beginning was the Logos, and the Logos was with All-Human, and the Logos was All-Human;

Logos means "worder" which means "human" (since animals dont speak).
The Logos of God is infinitely Logical (having no ego) and hence an All-Human or El-o-Hym.

http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=human&allowed_in_frame=0

human (adj.)
mid-15c., humain, humaigne, "human," from Old French humain, umain (adj.) "of or belonging to man" (12c.), from Latin humanus "of man, human," also "humane, philanthropic, kind, gentle, polite; learned, refined, civilized."

This is in part from PIE *(dh)ghomon-, literally "earthling, earthly being," as opposed to the gods (from root *dhghem- "earth"), but there is no settled explanation of the sound changes involved.

Compare Hebrew adam "man," from adamah "ground." Cognate with Old Lithuanian žmuo (accusative žmuni) "man, male person." 


A person with no ego would not require sleep.
A crucified person stood on a small platform with their arms stretched outward horizontally.
As long as they were awake they could support their weight on their feet but as soon as they fell asleep all of their weight went on to their arms causing intense pain which would wake them back up. 

No I am not an All-Human.
I definitely require sleep

 

[no-one-particular]

All modern humans are domesticated but an All-Human would be super-domesticated.
It's taking domestication to the next level

 

[Kharakov]

Yeah. It requires creating a human that will carry its own cross to be crucified, fully knowing the pain of crucifixion. That's the ultimate slave being- it will do whatever you tell it to.

 

[no-one-particular]

Yeah. It requires creating a human that will carry its own cross to be crucified, fully knowing the pain of crucifixion. That's the ultimate slave being- it will do whatever you tell it to.

Carry your own cross to be crucified, fully knowing the pain of crucifixion, just because someone tells you to?
That doesn't sound very logical to meet. All-human El-o-Hym would be all-logical.

 

[Tom Sawyer]

Well, what if you were a God and only needed to feel as much pain as you felt like feeling? Also, if you'd previously prophesied that you'd be crucified, if could make for some awkward social moments later if you then decided to not make that prophecy self-fulfilling and just hung around not being inconvenienced.

 

[funinspace]

Well, what if you were a God and only needed to feel as much pain as you felt like feeling? Also, if you'd previously prophesied that you'd be crucified, if could make for some awkward social moments later if you then decided to not make that prophecy self-fulfilling and just hung around not being inconvenienced.

Well, if you were god, why couldn't you just make your deathbot fake it?

 

[Tom Sawyer]

Well, what if you were a God and only needed to feel as much pain as you felt like feeling? Also, if you'd previously prophesied that you'd be crucified, if could make for some awkward social moments later if you then decided to not make that prophecy self-fulfilling and just hung around not being inconvenienced.

Well, if you were god, why couldn't you just make your deathbot fake it?

Because you didn't prophesize the sacrifice of a deathbot, you prophesized the sacrifice of yourself.

If there is one thing worse than a pointless God, it's a lazy pointless God who puts a half-assed effort into his self-fulfilling prophecies. Since there's no difference between fake death and real death for an immortal, the man can fucking well put some work into it.

 

[funinspace]

Well, if you were god, why couldn't you just make your deathbot fake it?

Because you didn't prophesize the sacrifice of a deathbot, you prophesized the sacrifice of yourself.

If there is one thing worse than a pointless God, it's a lazy pointless God who puts a half-assed effort into his self-fulfilling prophecies. Since there's no difference between fake death and real death for an immortal, the man can fucking well put some work into it.

O God! can I not save
One from the pitiless wave?
Is all that we see or seem
But a dream within a dream?

 

[Keith&Co.]

Carry your own cross to be crucified, fully knowing the pain of crucifixion, just because someone tells you to?
That doesn't sound very logical to meet.

I assume you meant to say 'logical to me.'
But 'sounding logical' does not mean it's a logical statement. If it doesn't 'sound' logical to you, that's merely your subjective reaction to an idea, not a logical evaluation of the idea. And there's no telling if you've actually evaluated the idea or just have an emotional reaction to the conclusion.

All-human El-o-Hym would be all-logical.

But would we have the slightest possibility of accessing the logic it operates under? Humans are not known for their logic, either in day to day operation or in life-fulfilling plans. If your god is all-human, he'd likely be a great big bag of conflicting emotions and neuroses.

 

[no-one-particular]

All-human El-o-Hym would be all-logical.

But would we have the slightest possibility of accessing the logic it operates under? Humans are not known for their logic, either in day to day operation or in life-fulfilling plans. If your god is all-human, he'd likely be a great big bag of conflicting emotions and neuroses.

An All-Human wouldnt have any emotions. Thats what makes them All-Human

 

[Keith&Co.]

An All-Human wouldnt have any emotions. Thats what makes them All-Human

But you say 'human' also means "humane, philanthropic, kind, gentle"
Can you have those without emotions?

 

[no-one-particular]

An All-Human wouldnt have any emotions. Thats what makes them All-Human

But you say 'human' also means "humane, philanthropic, kind, gentle"
Can you have those without emotions?

When did I say that?

What I said was:

El-o-Hym = ολω-Human = All-Human = No ego
"Human" is used here in the sense of "Logical"
as opposed to "Animals" which are illogical.

 

[Keith&Co.]

But you say 'human' also means "humane, philanthropic, kind, gentle"
Can you have those without emotions?

When did I say that?

What I said was:

El-o-Hym = ολω-Human = All-Human = No ego
"Human" is used here in the sense of "Logical"
as opposed to "Animals" which are illogical.

Y' also said it was an adjective and had meanings to include kind, gentle, humane...

 

[no-one-particular]

When did I say that?

 

[Keith&Co.]

That?
You said 'that' at 1105 yesterday morning, and this morning at 0805, 0826 and 0834.

 

[Jobar]

Because you didn't prophesize the sacrifice of a deathbot, you prophesized the sacrifice of yourself.

If there is one thing worse than a pointless God, it's a lazy pointless God who puts a half-assed effort into his self-fulfilling prophecies. Since there's no difference between fake death and real death for an immortal, the man can fucking well put some work into it.

O God! can I not save
One from the pitiless wave?
Is all that we see or seem
But a dream within a dream?

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