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Investigating Donald Trump, F.B.I. Sees No Clear Link to Russia

Law enforcement officials say that none of the investigations so far have found any conclusive or direct link between Mr. Trump and the Russian government.

clearly the deep state has abandoned Clinton for being a loser.

The Clinton Collapse - Only The Deep State Is So Precise

I submit another much more powerful dynamic is in play: the upper ranks of the Deep State now view Hillary as an unacceptable liability. The word came down to Comey to act whether he wanted to or not, i.e. take one for the good of the nation/Deep State/Imperial Project.

Crazy...although she is a liability
 
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/cover_story/2016/10/was_a_server_registered_to_the_trump_organization_communicating_with_russia.html

In late July, one of these scientists—who asked to be referred to as Tea Leaves, a pseudonym that would*protect his relationship with the networks and banks that employ him to sift their data—found what looked like malware emanating from Russia.*The destination domain had Trump in its name, which of course attracted Tea Leaves’ attention. But his discovery of the data was pure happenstance—a surprising needle in a large haystack of DNS lookups on his screen. “I have an outlier here that connects to Russia in a strange way,” he wrote in his notes. He couldn’t quite figure it out at first. But what he saw was a bank in Moscow that kept irregularly pinging a server registered to the Trump Organization on Fifth Avenue.

More data was needed, so he began carefully keeping logs of the Trump server’s DNS activity. As he collected the logs, he would circulate them in periodic batches to colleagues in the cybersecurity world. Six of them began scrutinizing them for clues.

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The researchers quickly dismissed their initial fear that the logs represented a malware attack. The communication wasn’t the work of bots. The irregular pattern of server lookups actually resembled the pattern of human conversation—conversations that began during office hours in New York and continued during office hours in Moscow. It dawned on the researchers that this wasn’t an attack, but a sustained relationship between a server registered to the Trump Organization and two servers registered to an entity called Alfa Bank.

The researchers had initially stumbled in their diagnosis because of the odd configuration of Trump’s server. “I’ve never seen a server set up like that,” says Christopher Davis, who runs the cybersecurity firm HYAS InfoSec Inc. and won a FBI Director Award for Excellence for his work tracking down the authors of one of the world’s nastiest botnet attacks. “It looked weird, and it didn’t pass the sniff test.” The server was first registered to Trump’s business in 2009 and was set up to run consumer marketing campaigns.*It had a history of sending mass emails on behalf of Trump-branded properties and products. Researchers were ultimately convinced that the server indeed belonged to Trump. (Click here to see the server’s registration record.) But now this capacious server handled a strangely small load of traffic, such a small load that it would be hard for a company to justify the expense and trouble it would take to maintain it. “I get more mail in a day than the server handled,” Davis says.

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Earlier this month, the group of computer scientists passed the logs to Paul Vixie. In the world of DNS experts, there’s no higher authority. Vixie wrote central strands of the DNS code that makes the internet work. After studying the logs, he concluded, “The parties were communicating in a secretive fashion. The operative word is secretive. This is more akin to what criminal syndicates do if they are putting together a project.” Put differently, the logs suggested that Trump and Alfa had configured something like a digital hotline connecting the two entities, shutting out the rest of the world, and designed to obscure its own existence. Over the summer, the scientists observed the communications trail from a distance.
 
Investigating Donald Trump, F.B.I. Sees No Clear Link to Russia



clearly the deep state has abandoned Clinton for being a loser.

The Clinton Collapse - Only The Deep State Is So Precise

I submit another much more powerful dynamic is in play: the upper ranks of the Deep State now view Hillary as an unacceptable liability. The word came down to Comey to act whether he wanted to or not, i.e. take one for the good of the nation/Deep State/Imperial Project.

Crazy...although she is a liability
article said:
F.B.I. officials spent weeks examining computer data showing an odd stream of activity to a Trump Organization server and Alfa Bank. Computer logs obtained by The New York Times show that two servers at Alfa Bank sent more than 2,700 “look-up” messages — a first step for one system’s computers to talk to another — to a Trump-connected server beginning in the spring. But the F.B.I. ultimately concluded that there could be an innocuous explanation, like a marketing email or spam, for the computer contacts.
Based on experts in DNS, it was likely human to human communication based on the tailored nature of the communications.
 
It doesn't mean it was Trump himself, but does support his weird pro-Russia agenda.
 
It doesn't mean it was Trump himself, but does support his weird pro-Russia agenda.
And this is the biggest problem. It wasn't Trump. Trump doesn't understand foreign policy at all. Whomever is in control of campaign did it, and that person would be the person with the power in the Trump Administration. Getting the Russians to hack the DNC to help support your own American campaign? Makes Watergate look like Whitewater!
 
You do realize that half-decent conspirators would not leave such obvious and weird clues? In fact even dumb one would not leave it because they would be using phones or something like that.
 
You do realize that half-decent conspirators would not leave such obvious and weird clues? In fact even dumb one would not leave it because they would be using phones or something like that.

No one has ever claimed that Trump was competent.
 
You do realize that half-decent conspirators would not leave such obvious and weird clues? In fact even dumb one would not leave it because they would be using phones or something like that.

No one has ever claimed that Trump was competent.
Yes, but you are now implying that Trump set this email server himself. That' very hard to believe.
 
You do realize that half-decent conspirators would not leave such obvious and weird clues?
They were already sending communications through very secretive means. They would have no reason to think people would ever see it. The only reason why it was found was because people with the right training were looking. The evidence is light and circumstantial on its face, and non-prosecutorial, but in context of what we know around it, definitely looks incriminating.

As things stand, we know nothing of what the communications were, only that they presumably occurred and in a very shady manner. Conspirators do make mistakes. Remember, Watergate was uncovered when they were caught in the act.
 
You do realize that half-decent conspirators would not leave such obvious and weird clues?
They were already sending communications through very secretive means. They would have no reason to think people would ever see it. The only reason why it was found was because people with the right training were looking.
LOL, That's pretty laughable. They were connecting directly, that's far from "secretive" let alone "very".
The evidence is light and circumstantial on its face, and non-prosecutorial, but in context of what we know around it, definitely looks incriminating.

As things stand, we know nothing of what the communications were, only that they presumably occurred and in a very shady manner. Conspirators do make mistakes. Remember, Watergate was uncovered when they were caught in the act.
Assuming what they say is true. it's almost certainly connection between email servers. So someone at Alpha Bank was knowingly or unknowingly sending emails to or through Trump server. Email servers are configured in many strange ways.
 
They were already sending communications through very secretive means. They would have no reason to think people would ever see it. The only reason why it was found was because people with the right training were looking.
LOL, That's pretty laughable. They were connecting directly, that's far from "secretive" let alone "very".
They weren't using typical methods of emailing, so yeah, very secretive.
The evidence is light and circumstantial on its face, and non-prosecutorial, but in context of what we know around it, definitely looks incriminating.
As things stand, we know nothing of what the communications were, only that they presumably occurred and in a very shady manner. Conspirators do make mistakes. Remember, Watergate was uncovered when they were caught in the act.
Assuming what they say is true. it's almost certainly connection between email servers. So someone at Alpha Bank was knowingly or unknowingly sending emails to or through Trump server. Email servers are configured in many strange ways.
And the people who uncovered this are very familiar with all that. There is something to this connection and it may be a Federal Capital crime.
 
LOL, That's pretty laughable. They were connecting directly, that's far from "secretive" let alone "very".
They weren't using typical methods of emailing, so yeah, very secretive.
But I told you it was not secretive. What do you mean not typical? it's how email system works.
The evidence is light and circumstantial on its face, and non-prosecutorial, but in context of what we know around it, definitely looks incriminating.
As things stand, we know nothing of what the communications were, only that they presumably occurred and in a very shady manner. Conspirators do make mistakes. Remember, Watergate was uncovered when they were caught in the act.
Assuming what they say is true. it's almost certainly connection between email servers. So someone at Alpha Bank was knowingly or unknowingly sending emails to or through Trump server. Email servers are configured in many strange ways.
And the people who uncovered this are very familiar with all that. There is something to this connection and it may be a Federal Capital crime.
Mis-configuring sendmail is a capital crime now?
 
Mis-configuring sendmail is a capital crime now?

"Mis-configuring"? Sounds like it was configured exactly how someone wanted it to be to keep the conversations secret.

When the secret got out to Alpha Bank, communication stopped on Trumps server even though the Trump organization hadn't been approached by the press. It then started again through another channel.
 
Mis-configuring sendmail is a capital crime now?

"Mis-configuring"? Sounds like it was configured exactly how someone wanted it to be to keep the conversations secret.

When the secret got out to Alpha Bank, communication stopped on Trumps server even though the Trump organization hadn't been approached by the press.
Yes, people at Alpha Bank said to their IT monkey "You're fired!"
It then started again through another channel.
Who said that? another "elite" specialist? OK, i see where they are claiming that. That DOES seem highly suspicious, I give you that. But then we come back to the question of authenticity of the data, could it be fabricated? "Elite" specialists are saying it's hard to fabricate, I call it bullshit. that's extremely easy to fabricate. And they don't know the source of the data. I think the whole thing was fabricated. It can be fabricated by a number of ways starting from simply manufacturing logs and ending by finding an open http proxy at alpha bank and periodically pinging it with the name of the trump server and carefully recording DNS logs and then gibing it to "elite" specialists, server name change can be detected too and then pinged through Alfa bank.

Bottom line, when you don't know the source of the data, then you can call it total trash.
 
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"Mis-configuring"? Sounds like it was configured exactly how someone wanted it to be to keep the conversations secret.

When the secret got out to Alpha Bank, communication stopped on Trumps server even though the Trump organization hadn't been approached by the press.
Yes, people at Alpha Bank said to their IT monkey "You're fired!"

Citation?

It then started again through another channel.

Who said that? another "elite" specialist? OK, i see where they are claiming that. That DOES seem highly suspicious, I give you that. But then we come back to the question of authenticity of the data, could it be fabricated? "Elite" specialists are saying it's hard to fabricate, I call it bullshit. that's extremely easy to fabricate. And they don't know the source of the data. I think the whole thing was fabricated. It can be fabricated by a number of ways starting from simply manufacturing logs and ending by finding an open http proxy at alpha bank and periodically pinging it with the name of the trump server and carefully recording DNS logs and then gibing it to "elite" specialists, server name change can be detected too and then pinged through Alfa bank.

Bottom line, when you don't know the source of the data, then you can call it total trash.

The source is in the story. It's very well laid out, unlike your vain attempts at refutation.
 
Yes, people at Alpha Bank said to their IT monkey "You're fired!"

Citation?

It then started again through another channel.

Who said that? another "elite" specialist? OK, i see where they are claiming that. That DOES seem highly suspicious, I give you that. But then we come back to the question of authenticity of the data, could it be fabricated? "Elite" specialists are saying it's hard to fabricate, I call it bullshit. that's extremely easy to fabricate. And they don't know the source of the data. I think the whole thing was fabricated. It can be fabricated by a number of ways starting from simply manufacturing logs and ending by finding an open http proxy at alpha bank and periodically pinging it with the name of the trump server and carefully recording DNS logs and then gibing it to "elite" specialists, server name change can be detected too and then pinged through Alfa bank.

Bottom line, when you don't know the source of the data, then you can call it total trash.

The source is in the story. It's very well laid out, unlike your vain attempts at refutation.
Yeah, the investigation by the these people seemed thorough and their conclusion isn't that they found a smoking gun. Rather, they found something that needs to be explained. And all there has been are baseless denials, which to me indicates an admission. Alfa Bank indicated that they investigated the claim (even "contracted" someone to look into it), which implies that the claim being made was of interest and serious. The Trump side just hand waved it away, indicating it was just random and noise, neither which is true. This is asymmetric and the timing of the connection resetting and then disappearing along with the context of the investigation by the NY Times and Slate is too much coincidence.

This shit is very fucked up.
 
Yes, people at Alpha Bank said to their IT monkey "You're fired!"

Citation?
Citation for what?
It then started again through another channel.

Who said that? another "elite" specialist? OK, i see where they are claiming that. That DOES seem highly suspicious, I give you that. But then we come back to the question of authenticity of the data, could it be fabricated? "Elite" specialists are saying it's hard to fabricate, I call it bullshit. that's extremely easy to fabricate. And they don't know the source of the data. I think the whole thing was fabricated. It can be fabricated by a number of ways starting from simply manufacturing logs and ending by finding an open http proxy at alpha bank and periodically pinging it with the name of the trump server and carefully recording DNS logs and then gibing it to "elite" specialists, server name change can be detected too and then pinged through Alfa bank.

Bottom line, when you don't know the source of the data, then you can call it total trash.

The source is in the story. It's very well laid out, unlike your vain attempts at refutation.
Story says - source is unknown but "experts" say data is hard to fake, which is a complete bullshit. I can fake it in few minutes.
 
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