FBI sells out to Russia

[barbos]

Citation?

It then started again through another channel.

Who said that? another "elite" specialist? OK, i see where they are claiming that. That DOES seem highly suspicious, I give you that. But then we come back to the question of authenticity of the data, could it be fabricated? "Elite" specialists are saying it's hard to fabricate, I call it bullshit. that's extremely easy to fabricate. And they don't know the source of the data. I think the whole thing was fabricated. It can be fabricated by a number of ways starting from simply manufacturing logs and ending by finding an open http proxy at alpha bank and periodically pinging it with the name of the trump server and carefully recording DNS logs and then gibing it to "elite" specialists, server name change can be detected too and then pinged through Alfa bank.

Bottom line, when you don't know the source of the data, then you can call it total trash.

The source is in the story. It's very well laid out, unlike your vain attempts at refutation.

Yeah, the investigation by the these people seemed thorough and their conclusion isn't that they found a smoking gun. Rather, they found something that needs to be explained. And all there has been are baseless denials, which to me indicates an admission. Alfa Bank indicated that they investigated the claim (even "contracted" someone to look into it), which implies that the claim being made was of interest and serious. The Trump side just hand waved it away, indicating it was just random and noise, neither which is true. This is asymmetric and the timing of the connection resetting and then disappearing along with the context of the investigation by the NY Times and Slate is too much coincidence.

This shit is very fucked up.

I don't think you actually understand what they actually found.

 

[ZiprHead]

Well then please explain how these extreme experts in their field are wrong.

BTW, just curious. Does The Agency pay well for your services? Any job openings? I could use a few extra rubles.

 

[Malintent]

They weren't using typical methods of emailing, so yeah, very secretive.

But I told you it was not secretive. What do you mean not typical? it's how email system works.

The evidence is light and circumstantial on its face, and non-prosecutorial, but in context of what we know around it, definitely looks incriminating.
As things stand, we know nothing of what the communications were, only that they presumably occurred and in a very shady manner. Conspirators do make mistakes. Remember, Watergate was uncovered when they were caught in the act.

Assuming what they say is true. it's almost certainly connection between email servers. So someone at Alpha Bank was knowingly or unknowingly sending emails to or through Trump server. Email servers are configured in many strange ways.

And the people who uncovered this are very familiar with all that. There is something to this connection and it may be a Federal Capital crime.

Mis-configuring sendmail is a capital crime now?

Intentionally misconfiguring sendmail for the purpose of violating SPF or other controls is, in fact, a crime. It is a violation of the 2003 CAN-SPAM act.. particularly, article 1. "Falsifying header information".

However, the "odd" communications were not MAPI, POP or any other common messaging protocol. It was a custom encrypted protocol. the only way it was discovered was because for some dumbass reason, they were performing DNS lookups of server registration names to establish connections, rather than by hardcoding server IP addresses. If the server wasn;t named "TRUMP_INDUSTRIES" or whatever, then it would not have been noticed by its purely numerical IP address.

Look at it this way... If you wanted to call ISIS to trade secrets with them, would you first call the Operator and ask what ISIS's phone number is EVERY TIME you wanted to call them? OR, would you get that number secretly, and then just call that number directly?

That is a pretty good analogy of what they were doing, actually.

 

[barbos]

Well then please explain how these extreme experts in their field are wrong.

LOL, I think it's impossible to explain it to you, trust me, I am an expert at explaining things
I mean the mere fact that you bought this utterly ridiculous claim that it's hard to fake logs suggests that.

BTW, just curious. Does The Agency pay well for your services? Any job openings? I could use a few extra rubles.

Trump is an asshole, screwed me with pay

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But I told you it was not secretive. What do you mean not typical? it's how email system works.

The evidence is light and circumstantial on its face, and non-prosecutorial, but in context of what we know around it, definitely looks incriminating.
As things stand, we know nothing of what the communications were, only that they presumably occurred and in a very shady manner. Conspirators do make mistakes. Remember, Watergate was uncovered when they were caught in the act.

Assuming what they say is true. it's almost certainly connection between email servers. So someone at Alpha Bank was knowingly or unknowingly sending emails to or through Trump server. Email servers are configured in many strange ways.

And the people who uncovered this are very familiar with all that. There is something to this connection and it may be a Federal Capital crime.

Mis-configuring sendmail is a capital crime now?

Intentionally misconfiguring sendmail for the purpose of violating SPF or other controls is, in fact, a crime. It is a violation of the 2003 CAN-SPAM act.. particularly, article 1. "Falsifying header information".

Who said anything about faking headers? Trump could have left his email server open to forwarding. or it was hacked.

However, the "odd" communications were not MAPI, POP or any other common messaging protocol. It was a custom encrypted protocol. the only way it was discovered was because for some dumbass reason, they were performing DNS lookups of server registration names to establish connections, rather than by hardcoding server IP addresses. If the server wasn;t named "TRUMP_INDUSTRIES" or whatever, then it would not have been noticed by its purely numerical IP address.

Look at it this way... If you wanted to call ISIS to trade secrets with them, would you first call the Operator and ask what ISIS's phone number is EVERY TIME you wanted to call them? OR, would you get that number secretly, and then just call that number directly?

That is a pretty good analogy of what they were doing, actually.

Where did you get this?

 

[ZiprHead]

Another content free Barbos post. "You're wrong, I'm right! Waa Waaa..."

 

[barbos]

Another content free Barbos post. "You're wrong, I'm right! Waa Waaa..."

Why do you think people should repeat content for you when you don't read it the first time?

 

[ZiprHead]

There was content from you somewhere in this thread?