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Fed Considering Raising Interest Rates

Yeah, weird how all of these government policies end up sending cash only to wall street. :angryfist:

Well you should thank the Democins and Republocrats...
 
Maybe lower rates that banks charge consumers is bad for banks but low fed rates at which banks borrow from the fed is good for banks. Raising that rate isn't particularly good for them. But it's good for people sitting on piles of cash . . . hmmm, I wonder who's been sitting on piles of cash lately?

From your own article...pointing out that corporate debt has grown even faster than the 'piles of cash'.
Outstripping even the cash growth, however, was the growth of outstanding debts.

"The $1.8 trillion in cash is dwarfed by the $5.8 trillion in total debt outstanding, which increased 6x to that of cash during 2014 as borrowers of all stripes took advantage of the low borrowing cost and investors' thirst for yield," Chang said.

Yes, but whose debt is this? Is private or public or both? They don't say, but I suspect both, IOW federal deficits are too high.

Public debt is a lesser concern, though that won't stop WS from using it as a blunt weapon.

But the ZIPR policies have made sure that far too many people feel compelled to put their savings into riskier investments trying to get some return for their money. Lots of retired boomers are out there (like my parents) that have seen their safe income dwindle with ZIPR rates.

There are many things the govt and Federal Reserve could have done to help people more so than WS. Keeping ZIPR rates for years on end isn't one of them. Congress could have allowed the FR to buy up all the student loan debt with their created money instead/in-addition-to of MBSs and treasury notes. Then they could have reset the loan interest to 1%. Nope....need to stick to the half dozen ways of funneling money at WS...

The risky investment argument is the only one I've seen that's at all persuasive. But it's not enough, considering the state of labor and wages.

Another idea was a payroll tax holiday. More people could've stayed in their homes, the MBS wouldn't been safer. But no, top down solutions are the only ones under consideration.
 
From your own article...pointing out that corporate debt has grown even faster than the 'piles of cash'.
Outstripping even the cash growth, however, was the growth of outstanding debts.

"The $1.8 trillion in cash is dwarfed by the $5.8 trillion in total debt outstanding, which increased 6x to that of cash during 2014 as borrowers of all stripes took advantage of the low borrowing cost and investors' thirst for yield," Chang said.

Yes, but whose debt is this? Is private or public or both? They don't say, but I suspect both, IOW federal deficits are too high.

Public debt is a lesser concern, though that won't stop WS from using it as a blunt weapon.
That article was about corporate debt. Those numbers were in line with other numbers I have seen for corporate debt. US federal debt is a little over $18 trillion, though FY 2015's deficit was said to be down to $439 billion, which isn't really bad, if we weren't 5-6 years into a 'recovery'.

But the ZIPR policies have made sure that far too many people feel compelled to put their savings into riskier investments trying to get some return for their money. Lots of retired boomers are out there (like my parents) that have seen their safe income dwindle with ZIPR rates.

There are many things the govt and Federal Reserve could have done to help people more so than WS. Keeping ZIPR rates for years on end isn't one of them. Congress could have allowed the FR to buy up all the student loan debt with their created money instead/in-addition-to of MBSs and treasury notes. Then they could have reset the loan interest to 1%. Nope....need to stick to the half dozen ways of funneling money at WS...

The risky investment argument is the only one I've seen that's at all persuasive. But it's not enough, considering the state of labor and wages.

Another idea was a payroll tax holiday. More people could've stayed in their homes, the MBS wouldn't been safer. But no, top down solutions are the only ones under consideration.
My point is more about the ZIPR rates really haven't been effective for several years now; and if anything are hurting other people, encouraging more risk, and encouraging poor debt choices. There are policies that could help labor and wages far more than ZIPR, but those are off the table. A few ideas:
* Require employers to pay H1B visa workers 120-140% of the median wages for said categories, if they really want those 'rocket scientists' instead of the several hundred thousand of cheap technology/engineering labor they are bringing in. The net result would be a probable 90% drop in H1B corporate requests.
* We could have not built a $13 billion new military base in S. Korea, but instead built a $13 billion base near Detroit and stationed the 30,000 soldier there.
* We could have wound down the Afghan adventures years ago (but continued say $10 billion a year in aid for...well...fuck...forever as long as there was some semblance of a non-hostile govt there) and poured the remaining $90 billion into US infrastructure each year.
* We could have let the Shrub's tax breaks for investments die a clean death.
* We could have removed the cap on wages subjected to FICA taxes, but exempted the first $5,000 of W-2 income from FICA taxes.
 
That article was about corporate debt. Those numbers were in line with other numbers I have seen for corporate debt. US federal debt is a little over $18 trillion, though FY 2015's deficit was said to be down to $439 billion, which isn't really bad, if we weren't 5-6 years into a 'recovery'.

I'm not worried about federal deficits.

Can you explain what this means

“The benefit of lower yields for corporate issuers is fading,” said Eric Beinstein, JPMorgan Chase & Co.’s head of U.S. high-grade strategy.

What was the benefit and how and why did it fade?

My point is more about the ZIPR rates really haven't been effective for several years now; and if anything are hurting other people, encouraging more risk, and encouraging poor debt choices. There are policies that could help labor and wages far more than ZIPR, but those are off the table. A few ideas:
* Require employers to pay H1B visa workers 120-140% of the median wages for said categories, if they really want those 'rocket scientists' instead of the several hundred thousand of cheap technology/engineering labor they are bringing in. The net result would be a probable 90% drop in H1B corporate requests.
* We could have not built a $13 billion new military base in S. Korea, but instead built a $13 billion base near Detroit and stationed the 30,000 soldier there.
* We could have wound down the Afghan adventures years ago (but continued say $10 billion a year in aid for...well...fuck...forever as long as there was some semblance of a non-hostile govt there) and poured the remaining $90 billion into US infrastructure each year.
* We could have let the Shrub's tax breaks for investments die a clean death.
* We could have removed the cap on wages subjected to FICA taxes, but exempted the first $5,000 of W-2 income from FICA taxes.

Those sound like good ideas to me.

A campaign of fear would be needed to persuade anyone to put a military base in Detroit. Plus the entire Mich political establish would move heaven and earth to get it located somewhere in the state.
 
Heh, my brother in law lives in Flint. I should ask him how he is coping with the situation.
 
Can you explain what this means

“The benefit of lower yields for corporate issuers is fading,” said Eric Beinstein, JPMorgan Chase & Co.’s head of U.S. high-grade strategy.

What was the benefit and how and why did it fade?
Which article...gave up after scanning 2....

A campaign of fear would be needed to persuade anyone to put a military base in Detroit. Plus the entire Mich political establish would move heaven and earth to get it located somewhere in the state.
Well, we should just take a page from the unhinged right wingers. We need to be able to defend the US from the crazy and dangerous Syriac-Canadians that are forming at the northern boarder :D
 
Can you explain what this means



What was the benefit and how and why did it fade?
Which article...gave up after scanning 2....

ksen's http://www.businessinsider.com/record-us-corporate-cash-holdings-182-trillion-2015-6

My best guess is that they simply want more and feel conditions are healthy enough to push.

A campaign of fear would be needed to persuade anyone to put a military base in Detroit. Plus the entire Mich political establish would move heaven and earth to get it located somewhere in the state.
Well, we should just take a page from the unhinged right wingers. We need to be able to defend the US from the crazy and dangerous Syriac-Canadians that are forming at the northern boarder :D

Yes, but because the denizens of Detroit are suspect in their allegiance(some are even Moslems), we should situate the base in a more politically reliable and secure location, say Port Huron. We must protect the soldiers who are protecting us.
 
Lots of Moslems in Michigan. I've met quite a few. Most all of them were very nice people.

Met a couple Yemeni college girls. Damn, they were HAWT! (Did a late fifties year old man just say that? Sick bastard, what are you doing eyeing those young hotties?)
 
Which article...gave up after scanning 2....

ksen's http://www.businessinsider.com/record-us-corporate-cash-holdings-182-trillion-2015-6

My best guess is that they simply want more and feel conditions are healthy enough to push.
Strange...couldn't find the quote in that article. Anywho, from what you said (and not fully sure of context), I would guess that Beinstein is suggesting that most corporations that found it advantageous to issue new debt at low rates, have mostly already done so. Therefore, there less is less bang for the ZIPR buck going forward.
 
ksen's http://www.businessinsider.com/record-us-corporate-cash-holdings-182-trillion-2015-6

My best guess is that they simply want more and feel conditions are healthy enough to push.
Strange...couldn't find the quote in that article. Anywho, from what you said (and not fully sure of context), I would guess that Beinstein is suggesting that most corporations that found it advantageous to issue new debt at low rates, have mostly already done so. Therefore, there less is less bang for the ZIPR buck going forward.

My screw up, sorry:

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...s-epic-debt-binge-leaves-119-billion-hangover
 
Ah, NP. I think the other point Beinstein was making was that most of the older debt that could be rolled over for the benefit of cheaper interest rates has pretty much already been done.
 
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