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Quoting the final words:
So why aren't investors in a state of frenzied panic? Why have the euro and stock markets bounced a bit this morning? One slightly implausible explanation is that investors believe the eurozone would actually be stronger without Greece, so long as no other big country followed it out the door.

More likely is that they believe reason will prevail, and Berlin will sanction a write-off of Greece's excessive debts.

Here is the important point: outside of Germany it is almost impossible to find an economist or central banker who believed that the previous reconstruction of Greek debt was ever going to work.

So just maybe, after Greeks have made a colossal and some would say pointless economic sacrifice, Germany will allow a rescue that permits the country a fighting chance of crawling out from beneath its colossal debts.

Always scoot down to the bottom of the article. It's when all the attention grabbers, thriller phrases and epinephrine levels of the author are spent.
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The impression I got was that lots of banks in Europe lent Greek banks money. If these greek banks start paying back these loans in toilet paper, they will never get their money back. I understand several Spanish banks are hardly in good shape either, for this and the collapse of the housing boom there.

It's just one of the places in Europe that had a ridiculous housing bubble that hasn't really been popped properly.

They've already taken a major haircut.
 
The impression I got was that lots of banks in Europe lent Greek banks money. If these greek banks start paying back these loans in toilet paper, they will never get their money back. I understand several Spanish banks are hardly in good shape either, for this and the collapse of the housing boom there.

It's just one of the places in Europe that had a ridiculous housing bubble that hasn't really been popped properly.
I think the Long Term Refinancing Operations (in 2011 IIRC), firewalled these banks.
It will mainly affect Greece itself as IIUC Greek banks now hold most of the debt.

IOW the ECB began to prepare for this by transferring the risk of Greece itself away from other European banks onto Greek banks.
At least that is how I understand it.

This is why the risk is what effect it will have on confidence in say Spain or Portugal. If Greece exits into financial chaos will Spanish people be happy to leave their money in Spanish banks?
 
The impression I got was that lots of banks in Europe lent Greek banks money. If these greek banks start paying back these loans in toilet paper, they will never get their money back. I understand several Spanish banks are hardly in good shape either, for this and the collapse of the housing boom there.

It's just one of the places in Europe that had a ridiculous housing bubble that hasn't really been popped properly.

They've already taken a major haircut.

Huge units and trade zones...like the Eurozone have a hidden reality behind them....more trade, more travel, more transportation expense, more pollution, more debt...more oil...less localized national economic resourcefulness. While I say this, I am not an anti-trade person. I clearly understand the need for countries to export and import. It is really not the fact that countries trade that is the problem. It is the gross promotion of this "trade" as the answer to all problems. In this so-called "trade" bankers have managed to very badly affect the economies of many nations...Greece included. It is looking more and more like the Euro has become simply another tool for economic conquest and domination. That needs to be solved. Onerous debt needs to be forgiven and not allowed to linger and trifle with the lives of common people in any country. A economic system that allows huge unpayable debts to accrue clearly needs to be adjusted.

Whoever you are, wherever you are, you only have ONE LIFE. If the time of your life passes while you are being economically disadvanaged, you lose. This is just a personal note on this matter. Humanists understand that. Bankers and oligarchs get so wrapped up in their games, they neither understand nor care. If Greece were to exit the Euro, it may be better, and I suspect it would be worse if they remained in the system if the system remained unchanged. The very fact that the world looks to people like Merkel and LeGarde for answers is a bit disheartening. I do believe these people feel they are doing the right thing but their policies are not humanistic, so they are not measuring the right parameters for the well being of the largest number of people.
 
They've already taken a major haircut.

Huge units and trade zones...like the Eurozone have a hidden reality behind them....more trade, more travel, more transportation expense, more pollution, more debt...more oil...less localized national economic resourcefulness. While I say this, I am not an anti-trade person. I clearly understand the need for countries to export and import. It is really not the fact that countries trade that is the problem. It is the gross promotion of this "trade" as the answer to all problems. In this so-called "trade" bankers have managed to very badly affect the economies of many nations...Greece included. It is looking more and more like the Euro has become simply another tool for economic conquest and domination. That needs to be solved. Onerous debt needs to be forgiven and not allowed to linger and trifle with the lives of common people in any country. A economic system that allows huge unpayable debts to accrue clearly needs to be adjusted.

Whoever you are, wherever you are, you only have ONE LIFE. If the time of your life passes while you are being economically disadvanaged, you lose. This is just a personal note on this matter. Humanists understand that. Bankers and oligarchs get so wrapped up in their games, they neither understand nor care. If Greece were to exit the Euro, it may be better, and I suspect it would be worse if they remained in the system if the system remained unchanged. The very fact that the world looks to people like Merkel and LeGarde for answers is a bit disheartening. I do believe these people feel they are doing the right thing but their policies are not humanistic, so they are not measuring the right parameters for the well being of the largest number of people.

This has almost nothing to do with the reality of the situation, it's just an appeal to be good to the people whether or not you can actually do that. When are you going to address reality rather than leftist fantasyland?
 
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