Jarhyn
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- Natural Philosophy, Game Theoretic Ethicist
I do wonder what they say is the first sign of insanity...
Anyway, I would hope that employers do not have the right to fire people who do not hold particular views about gay people; nobody here on the left is arguing that they should or deserve that right.
On the other hand, firing employees who speak I'll of their co-workers who are gay, who express such opinions and hostility to their co-workers and erode interpersonal cohesion at the workplace, expressing in so many words biases against those employees, well, such people do not belong in the workplace.
There are gay people who you would never even know are gay. They don't go around announcing, "I'm as gay as the day is long!" and using the girly mannerisms and speaking with the lisp. These people are trying to get attention because they are gay. These are the annoying ones.
The ones who keep it to themselves and don't announce it to the world are the ones who I don't mind working with. But, the ones who are openly flamboyant shoving it in your face and reminding you every 10 mins they are gay are the attention seekers. No reason to do that just as there is no need for me to remind my co-workers that I am straight every 10 mins. Everyone would get fed up and say, "Shut up!"
And here we get back to the crux of the issue: you have a problem with people because of the mannerisms and manner with which they talk. Not with what they say, but how they say it. You are biased against persons, rather than actions or statements which materially threaten you or the work that you do.
So who here is making the workplace hostile? Them for existing in a way you disapprove of or you for disapproving, clearly vocally and publicly, of their existence?