Hollywood "Goes Woke" Again and Casts Black Woman as 007

[ZiprHead]

Spock does seem to have a little of a green hue here.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

I would agree that at some point in the future, sex with a non-human will involve consent. But right now, i suspect the law does not provide for xenophilia as distinct from bestiality. Certainly in the minds of 1968-69 tv viewers in the troublesome markets.

Yeah, our legal code doesn't recognize the possibility of sentient non-humans.

Spock looks human enough that I don't think most people would think of bestiality, though--especially since he has one human parent.

 

[Keith&Co.]

Spock looks human enough that ...

...?? In a discussion based on whether a Kirk/Uhura kiss was acceptable, because of how both humans looked?

 

[Derec]

Come now, it's only beastiality when there's no symmetric consent. Otherwise it's simply "interspecies". Beastiality implies, well, a beast...

You mean "interspecies erotica"?


SCNR.

I don't think there was any "symmetric consent" though, except at the end.


By the way, a "beast" is technically a non-egg-laying mammal, and so humans would qualify.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Spock looks human enough that ...

...?? In a discussion based on whether a Kirk/Uhura kiss was acceptable, because of how both humans looked?

I'm saying it wouldn't have been controversial as bestiality as he does not appear to be a beast. It was controversial for being inter-racial.

 

[marc]

Ok, some people are going to be triggered again. At Comic Con they announced the next Thor movie will be Thor Love and Thunder. Natalie Portman is going to be in it again, and at the announcement the director handed her the hammer. We might be getting that Jane Foster Thor.

 

[ruby sparks]

Come now, it's only beastiality when there's no symmetric consent. Otherwise it's simply "interspecies". Beastiality implies, well, a beast...

You mean "interspecies erotica"?


SCNR.

I don't think there was any "symmetric consent" though, except at the end.


By the way, a "beast" is technically a non-egg-laying mammal, and so humans would qualify.

This makes me wonder if there's porn for people who like to watch animals having sex?

With their own species I mean.



Is it wrong, or just weird, to think of that as 'hot'?

Or this....

 

[ruby sparks]

Ok, some people are going to be triggered again. At Comic Con they announced the next Thor movie will be Thor Love and Thunder. Natalie Portman is going to be in it again, and at the announcement the director handed her the hammer. We might be getting that Jane Foster Thor.

I'm fine with it. Give female Thor a bunch of male sidekicks, one of whom can be her love interest. Go for it.

 

[Keith&Co.]

This makes me wonder if there's porn for people who like to watch animals having sex?

Of course. And the cool thing about having a very non-standard fetish is that you can leave your porn out and just tell people you always wish you-d gone into veterinary training, or say you invested in a bull sperm bank.
People find my Fireworks Monthly mag, the home-made issue, they say i'm going to lose my fingers, but no one suspects....

 

[ruby sparks]

This makes me wonder if there's porn for people who like to watch animals having sex?

Of course. And the cool thing about having a very non-standard fetish is that you can leave your porn out and just tell people you always wish you-d gone into veterinary training...

People find my Fireworks Monthly mag, the home-made issue, they say i'm going to lose my fingers, but no one suspects....

The meaning of that bit has gone over my head.

On a related note, I have heard it said that many women have erotic feelings for the horses they ride. Also that riding the horses gives some of them sexual pleasure. I would not be surprised if some of that group in particular found images or footage of horses copulating to be slightly sexy. Some, of course, will go so far as to fantasise about having penetrative sex with a horse, though not, I think, as many as are portrayed in porn of that variety, which I think is mainly for male consumption. I myself prefer fantasising about oran utangs. Kidding. Though....now I'm thinking of an interesting if politically-incorrect pub question; "If you were not allowed to have sex with your own species, but were allowed to choose another species, what species would you (however reluctantly) hypothetically pick?" Or the perhaps less politically-incorrect version, 'have you ever even fantasised about sex with a member of another species?'. Wouldn't have to be penetrative or non-consensual. Could be that you'd like a dog to pleasure you orally. I've read one female fantasy about that (in a book on women's sexual fantasies, written by Nancy Friday).

 

[ruby sparks]

People find my Fireworks Monthly mag, the home-made issue, they say i'm going to lose my fingers, but no one suspects....

Ok. I belatedly get it.

The joke, I mean, not sex with horses.

 

[laughing dog]

This thread is fascinating. Film-makers makes action pictures in order to earn a profit. All these years, the Bond film makers used white men to earn a profit. Now, they believe that a black woman playing a 007 (but not James Bond) will help them earn a bigger profit. And, to some people that is "pandering". If that is "pandering", then clearly these film -makers have been pandering to white men for decades. Which means white guys who are upset about this are simply upset they are no longer the intended targets of this "pandering".

I'm a white guy, and all I can say is that this is not a real problem in comparison to all of the real issues in the world today.

 

[Jarhyn]

People find my Fireworks Monthly mag, the home-made issue, they say i'm going to lose my fingers, but no one suspects....

The meaning of that bit has gone over my head.

On a related note, I have heard it said that many women have erotic feelings for the horses they ride. Also that riding the horses gives some of them sexual pleasure. I would not be surprised if some of that group in particular found images or footage of horses copulating to be slightly sexy. Some, of course, will go so far as to fantasise about having penetrative sex with a horse, though not, I think, as many as are portrayed in porn of that variety, which I think is mainly for male consumption. I myself prefer fantasising about oran utangs. Kidding. Though....now I'm thinking of an interesting if politically-incorrect pub question; "If you were not allowed to have sex with your own species, but were allowed to choose another species, what species would you (however reluctantly) hypothetically pick?" Or the perhaps less politically-incorrect version, 'have you ever even fantasised about sex with a member of another species?'. Wouldn't have to be penetrative or non-consensual. Could be that you'd like a dog to pleasure you orally. I've read one female fantasy about that (in a book on women's sexual fantasies, written by Nancy Friday).

My biggest issue is that I like sex to be consensual and enjoyable for all parties involved.

I mean jeez, me and my husband make up fantastical (and more mundane) sapient species and fantasize about fucking them all the GD time.

 

[Tom Sawyer]

My biggest issue is that I like sex to be consensual and enjoyable for all parties involved.

I mean jeez, me and my husband make up fantastical (and more mundane) sapient species and fantasize about fucking them all the GD time.

Well, if you ever do Black Widow spider where you kill him after sex in order to use his body as incubation and food for your young, make sure to have him record his consent for this beforehand so that the cops don't get all up in your shit about it or anything.

 

[Jarhyn]

My biggest issue is that I like sex to be consensual and enjoyable for all parties involved.

I mean jeez, me and my husband make up fantastical (and more mundane) sapient species and fantasize about fucking them all the GD time.

Well, if you ever do Black Widow spider where you kill him after sex in order to use his body as incubation and food for your young, make sure to have him record his consent for this beforehand so that the cops don't get all up in your shit about it or anything.

Not big on spiders. I mean, sneaking up and sticking my hands in my mate's bits and running away, that seems like a very whimsical way to "do it" but I prefer imagining species that are a bit more sex-positive.

Like, the really out-there ones are usually mono-sexed with a completely different cultural concept of gender from our own.

 

[Playball40]

I would suspect that is related to the rubbing/stimulation of the clitoris while riding as opposed to any real attraction to the horse (or the horse's sexual habits).

People find my Fireworks Monthly mag, the home-made issue, they say i'm going to lose my fingers, but no one suspects....

The meaning of that bit has gone over my head.

On a related note, I have heard it said that many women have erotic feelings for the horses they ride. Also that riding the horses gives some of them sexual pleasure. I would not be surprised if some of that group in particular found images or footage of horses copulating to be slightly sexy. Some, of course, will go so far as to fantasise about having penetrative sex with a horse, though not, I think, as many as are portrayed in porn of that variety, which I think is mainly for male consumption. I myself prefer fantasising about oran utangs. Kidding. Though....now I'm thinking of an interesting if politically-incorrect pub question; "If you were not allowed to have sex with your own species, but were allowed to choose another species, what species would you (however reluctantly) hypothetically pick?" Or the perhaps less politically-incorrect version, 'have you ever even fantasised about sex with a member of another species?'. Wouldn't have to be penetrative or non-consensual. Could be that you'd like a dog to pleasure you orally. I've read one female fantasy about that (in a book on women's sexual fantasies, written by Nancy Friday).

 

[Keith&Co.]

Like, the really out-there ones are usually mono-sexed with a completely different cultural concept of gender from our own.

So, you guys act out a 'first contact' situation where you find Jesuits?

 

[Jarhyn]

Like, the really out-there ones are usually mono-sexed with a completely different cultural concept of gender from our own.

So, you guys act out a 'first contact' situation where you find Jesuits?

Naw more like... Well, I suppose the easiest introduction to the idea would be to look up "Sergals". Recently my husband has been developing a similar species called "Kuls" (plural form), inspired more by avians and geckos.

He's a pretty great artist and I wouldn't mind linking you but a lot of it is pornographic.

But yeah. Most of it is just (pornographic) art.

Furries are weird.

 

[Jarhyn]

I would suspect that is related to the rubbing/stimulation of the clitoris while riding as opposed to any real attraction to the horse (or the horse's sexual habits).

People find my Fireworks Monthly mag, the home-made issue, they say i'm going to lose my fingers, but no one suspects....

The meaning of that bit has gone over my head.

On a related note, I have heard it said that many women have erotic feelings for the horses they ride. Also that riding the horses gives some of them sexual pleasure. I would not be surprised if some of that group in particular found images or footage of horses copulating to be slightly sexy. Some, of course, will go so far as to fantasise about having penetrative sex with a horse, though not, I think, as many as are portrayed in porn of that variety, which I think is mainly for male consumption. I myself prefer fantasising about oran utangs. Kidding. Though....now I'm thinking of an interesting if politically-incorrect pub question; "If you were not allowed to have sex with your own species, but were allowed to choose another species, what species would you (however reluctantly) hypothetically pick?" Or the perhaps less politically-incorrect version, 'have you ever even fantasised about sex with a member of another species?'. Wouldn't have to be penetrative or non-consensual. Could be that you'd like a dog to pleasure you orally. I've read one female fantasy about that (in a book on women's sexual fantasies, written by Nancy Friday).

On that note, I know plenty of people for whom it is about the horse.

I think Big Mouth played heavily on the eroticism of horses with their fictional accounts of the non-existent book "Rock of Gibralter"