How do we right wing atheists prevent Marxism?

[Nice Squirrel]

Marxism seems to be a self-correcting pathology. The cure for Marxism is experiencing Marxism. I read recently that the Vietnamese have the most positive attitudes toward capitalism on earth.

What seems stubbornly incurable is the strain of intellectual armchair Marxism preached from armchairs of universities well-endowed by the fruits of capitalism. These people are like carriers, not affected by the disease themselves but capable of spreading it to others.

Psst, "Cultural Marxism" is not about Marxism, but is a code word for the far-right for "multiculturalism". This is not the Marxism of the endowed chairs of universities, but a boogie man of white supremacists.

 

[Trausti]

My impression is that cultural Marxism refers to transposing the class oppressor-oppressed paradigm to race and gender. Hence, why there's an attempt to redefine words like "racism" or "sexism" to newly entail an oppressor-oppressed meaning (e.g., only white heterosexual males can be racist and sexist). Same bullshit, different subject. But in both instances very negative effects.

 

[Keith&Co.]

I don't know why yet, but I get a weird feeling in my teeth when someone says "we atheists". Why does this happen? I think maybe I like to imagine atheists as less than people. Like maybe they miss something about life, or they are lacking something biologically. Something inside their brain. I don't like this feeling I get in my teeth, and I'd like to understand why I feel it.

I kinda find that fascinating, what with your general air of condescension towards any and all atheists on just about every topic where you've joined the discussion.

 

[Frikki]

Given that one of the things that Marxism wanted to destroy was religious faith, how do we backstop against destroying the love of country, our own races and nuclear family and so on?

I would hope that most of us came to atheism through rational means and not because mommy and daddy sucked and were also religious. Coming the latter way leaves one more open to marxism.

This video at 5 minutes in explains it well:

We are in a golden age and people that don´t see that are frankly idiots.

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I'm curious to see if any right-wing atheists on TFT actually agree with the goals stated in this weird-as-fuck OP.

I´m Right wing and the claims that there is a decline are the ravings of the (hopefully) terminally stupid.

 

[another1]

>>>Lacking or having a gene aside, I think being able to live with oneself is too important, and that blocks people who are currently atheists from doing what is sensible in reality, and not just life.

<<<Keith. I love people who don't believe in God, unless not believing in God is who they are. If there is no God, there is no God to argue about. The arguing gives God texture and makes things worse, but you don't want to explore that. Half of the energy Christianity has is from the people who hate it. That is very hard for smart people to understand because it is so simple.

 

[arkirk]

Given that one of the things that Marxism wanted to destroy was religious faith, how do we backstop against destroying the love of country, our own races and nuclear family and so on?

I would hope that most of us came to atheism through rational means and not because mommy and daddy sucked and were also religious. Coming the latter way leaves one more open to marxism.

This video at 5 minutes in explains it well:

Yup, Repoman! The atheists are all riding on the Marxist horns of a horny devil that rots the morals of the human race and has prepared a place in the underworld for those non believing assholes to burn fucking eternally!

You actually haven't gotten past listening to Pat Buchanan? Marxism is actually mainly an explanation of how our economic system got where it is today with all the income equality, disease, malnutrition, worker exploitation, pollution, etc. It really never got too far into how a society could erect governing structures to instill humanistic values in a grossly uninformed population. The churches have been a big factor demanding a superstition being necessary to morality. They are simply one very long lived societally empowerd system of lies. The church, just like the current government usually served the rich of society with in many cultures, the richest ones being given crowns and scepters. Now along comes you with your idea that Marxism is a disease. Humanism is the disease and I have it and have no intention of letting pretadtory capitalists and aristocrats talking me out of it. You need a few years under the guidance of Neil Young.

 

[arkirk]

My impression is that cultural Marxism refers to transposing the class oppressor-oppressed paradigm to race and gender. Hence, why there's an attempt to redefine words like "racism" or "sexism" to newly entail an oppressor-oppressed meaning (e.g., only white heterosexual males can be racist and sexist). Same bullshit, different subject. But in both instances very negative effects.

You should put down those cigarettes and calm down, Trausti. You guys keep smearing Marx when you really have no business doing so. Like all sciences, when they are first conceived they make a few mistakes, but as they are practiced more and more, new discoveries make the science more accurate. Marx ventured into a realm that was feared by many superstitious Christians. Affixing his name to socially organized exploitive conformity is grossly unfair to his memory and also to his liberating gift. You want to rail, find something else. There are as many kinds of socialists as there are people.

Equating Marxism with hippies is also ridiculous. Marx did not advocate criminal drug dealing. You and the likes of Buchanan seem bent on making some sort of correlation between being a stoner and being a Marxist. Criminal drug dealing is done by capitalists...and the Crown of Britain actually forced opium on China in the past. A drug infused person is not any particular stripe of political or economic...he becomes merely a drug addict.

 

[braces_for_impact]

Cultural Marxism. Oh for fuck's sake.

 

[arkirk]

Marxism seems to be a self-correcting pathology. The cure for Marxism is experiencing Marxism. I read recently that the Vietnamese have the most positive attitudes toward capitalism on earth.

What seems stubbornly incurable is the strain of intellectual armchair Marxism preached from armchairs of universities well-endowed by the fruits of capitalism. These people are like carriers, not affected by the disease themselves but capable of spreading it to others.

Psst, "Cultural Marxism" is not about Marxism, but is a code word for the far-right for "multiculturalism". This is not the Marxism of the endowed chairs of universities, but a boogie man of white supremacists.

Thanks for the clarity.

 

[Valjean]

If we wish to live peacefully and co-operatively in a modern, cosmopolitan world we need to put our differences aside and all pull together. Tribalism and love of country are pernicious.

 

[untermensche]

Marxism seems to be a self-correcting pathology. The cure for Marxism is experiencing Marxism. I read recently that the Vietnamese have the most positive attitudes toward capitalism on earth.

What seems stubbornly incurable is the strain of intellectual armchair Marxism preached from armchairs of universities well-endowed by the fruits of capitalism. These people are like carriers, not affected by the disease themselves but capable of spreading it to others.

When exactly have we experienced Marxism?

Not something the Soviet dictators called Marxism or something the Vietnamese that had their culture and landscape shattered called Marxism.

But something Marx would call Marxism.

Of course to know this would actually require knowing what Marx and not the Vietnamese said.

Some people think that because others were against the US genocide in Vietnam they also supported the leaders of North Vietnam. Some people have a hard time thinking.

 

[Trausti]

You should put down those cigarettes and calm down, Trausti. You guys keep smearing Marx when you really have no business doing so. Like all sciences, when they are first conceived they make a few mistakes, but as they are practiced more and more, new discoveries make the science more accurate. Marx ventured into a realm that was feared by many superstitious Christians. Affixing his name to socially organized exploitive conformity is grossly unfair to his memory and also to his liberating gift. You want to rail, find something else. There are as many kinds of socialists as there are people.

Holy fuck. You're calling the century of Marx-inspired murder, and the conflagration which is present-day Venezuela, "a few mistakes." Of course, this isn't what the OP was eluding to. But fuck.

Top Khmer Rouge leader tells court he fought for 'social justice'

https://www.yahoo.com/news/top-khmer-rouge-leader-tells-court-fought-social-135526370.html?ref=gs

 

[Cheerful Charlie]

From a rare radio program with both Sean Hannity and Rush Limbaugh:

Hannity: "President Obama is a socialist!"
Limbaugh: "And don't forget to add, communist!"

Cultural Marxist, cultural shmarxist. Its mostly ad hominem attacks by ignorant people.

 

[repoman]

Is this related to Cultural Marxism?

 

[laughing dog]

Is this related to Cultural Marxism?

No. Waving the German flag in Germany is considered an expression of nationalism and is usually done at sporting events, not at political rallies.

 

[GenesisNemesis]

I'm sure there's something about Miley Cyrus in Das Kapital.

 

[repoman]

The only solution is more movies like "Angry Birds"



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[iolo]

Where is this Marxism at? Personally, I'm much more concerned about theocracy or fascism.

Minimum wage hikes, voting rights for blackies, not arresting Hispanics for being Hispanic and therefore, almost certainly, illegals.

Typical. From McCarthy on Russian State capitalism = 'Marxism' = human decency (which ought to be banned. Ignorance is not even bliss, is it?

 

[iolo]

Marxism seems to be a self-correcting pathology. The cure for Marxism is experiencing Marxism. I read recently that the Vietnamese have the most positive attitudes toward capitalism on earth.

What seems stubbornly incurable is the strain of intellectual armchair Marxism preached from armchairs of universities well-endowed by the fruits of capitalism. These people are like carriers, not affected by the disease themselves but capable of spreading it to others.

How can you experience 'Marxism', a science, except by studying it? Living under state capitalism is hardly 'experiencing Marxism. except in the same sense as living under any historical society.

 

[Canard DuJour]

Marxism seems to be a self-correcting pathology. The cure for Marxism is experiencing Marxism. I read recently that the Vietnamese have the most positive attitudes toward capitalism on earth.

What seems stubbornly incurable is the strain of intellectual armchair Marxism preached from armchairs of universities well-endowed by the fruits of capitalism. These people are like carriers, not affected by the disease themselves but capable of spreading it to others.

Probably because they've actually read Marx and found an historical description of capitalism, not a blueprint for the Soviet Union, and absolutely zilch to do with the drivel in the OP video.