How much influence does Hip Hop really have?

[another1]

"Black Icons against BLM" was a bad start. No worries, I forgive you. The problem, the actual problem should be in the title. This being the infamous Chupacabra of course. I seen em. I seen em' nipping at the heels of kids while they walk home from school with their earbuds in. I seen em in places you'd just never expect. Trust me, I have done more than just glance and say heh.

Please help me here. I have a legitimate concern. There are some very bad things about Hip Hop. It is a style of life for many people I know, and I wonder how they are still alive. Many of them aren't, so I guess I'd say "knew".

I've been memorizing some gangster rap lately, right. Things don't look good. I put myself into the mind of a child and listen to the words. I imagine twenty years of repeating the verses. I imagine evil things can come.

There are so many things to cover, and I'm not the most organized person you'll meet. Maybe the least. But I have a concern. A real one, in our world. Not an uncommon concern, either. It has been growing for a while. Critical mass point depends on what you allow to happen. They're coming, and they are going to kill you.

See, I tried to drop the alarmism. That has always been a thread killer. This is much better. We're set up for real questions. Ignore my silliness and address your concerns about what Hip Hop is doing to the black community. I would play at being irritated with black people, just to get this foot in the door, but this is a well that goes down very far. You sometimes can't even hear an echo. It is just that old well that has always been over there. But there is something hiding in it, you see. I would like your help finding that bottom. Seeing if what I think is down there (Chupacabra) is actually there. Skip the nonsense and tell me what you think. I ask because I respect this community and the no bs attitude.

Well? Do you have anything responsible to say, or should this continue to be a joke until the entire black race is in the noose of Hip Hop, vulnerable to influence nothing should have over anything, much less an entire race? This is bad, man. This is really, really bad.

 

[another1]

Quote Originally Posted by Don2 (Don1 Revised)

wut?
I thought it was pretty clear. This rock & roll music is dangerous. It gives good kids bad ideas. Sure, you let your kids go to the sock hop at the high school thinking it isn't a big deal, but the next thing you know your daughter is going steady with a motorcycle-riding juvenile delinquent, and your son is smoking cigarettes and growing his hair too long. Soon you lose control of them altogether, and your kids tell you "hey daddy-o, don't be a square." Then you find out the boy is wearing blue jeans and a leather jacket and the girl is wearing makeup and a skirt that's dangerously close to showing her knees.

Best to send them both to a boarding school where they won't be able to hear their rock & roll records.

I agree, but it is too late to do anything about Rock and Roll. Rock and Roll was targeted at the white race, it did the damage it could, wormed in and continues to burrow to this day. The white race is susceptible to Rock and Roll in no way that black are to Hip Hop. I mean, we're talking about what is happening to one race, Ford. Right now, what matters is Hip Hop. Gangster rap in particular. It is far more criminal, materialistic sexist and any other negative word you'd like to add. It is one of the worst types of art, up there near child pornography. It is destroying people, Ford. It distorts things so drastically that the fate of a race can teeter on the power of one song. I'm not even kidding. Links? You deal in links? I'll get you links. Self testimony gets me nowhere. Now I have to go looking for myself, I suppose. I do the work? I thought the arrangement was that someone else would provide links. This is starting to feel like a responsibility, because I'm a concerned human being, who cares about trampled races.

 

[Ford]

Please help me here. I have a legitimate concern.

That's nothing that medication and a good 10 years of therapy won't make a small dent in.

Skip the nonsense and tell me what you think. I ask because I respect this community and the no bs attitude.

In order to skip the nonsense I'd have to avoid reading your drivel altogether. What do I think? That you're delusional.

Hip hop is not something that came from outside the black community, but from within. You'd know that if you bothered to learn the history. The best introduction to what hip hop was and would be is "The Message" by Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five. It was literally a message to the rest of the world. This is what we're experiencing. This is what we're living. This is why we're angry.

Hip hop isn't influencing the black community. It is a message from the black community. I believe it was Chuck D (of Public Enemy) that said hip hop is like black CNN. It gives you the stories you aren't getting from the mainstream media. It is reporting from the streets.

Of course that's just one aspect of hip hop.

 

[connick]

Ya don't like listening to death rap, well I do
There's nothing like beautiful music for you to die to
You can't stop pain, how long will cocaine last
A close range blast, will leave you with no brains fast
Don't rap, stab yourself to the beat instead
Don't impress me with your raps, impress me by being dead
I'll be impressed when your bleeding red
Cause at least you can say you done somethin' I haven't done yet.

I love hip hop in all forms.

 

[Keith&Co.]

Hip hop is not something that came from outside the black community, but from within.

Which is true with most music.
Parents always complain that 'kids today' are being driven to odd, weird, disrespectful, dangerous places and trends and hair styles and smoking and sex.
But for the most part, music is written by people experiencing this shit already, reflecting what people are living, thinking, doing. That's why it becomes popular. If it was alien music it couldn't resonate, and no one would buy the music.

 

[Sarpedon]

Basically he seems to think music is a mind control conspiracy. Crazy and ignorant. Rock and Roll didn't 'target' white people. It was a form of music invented by black people that was popularized among white people by artists such as Elvis. It didn't target anyone. Artists express themselves through their art, and those who do it well create a product that can be used to make a lot of money. That is all there is to it.

What, do people think that there's some underground lab where music is invented and 'targeted?' Blues music came from sharecroppers at cotton plantations. Rock and Roll developed as Blues became popular over the whole country. Hip hop came about in poor urban neighborhoods, some say as a result of a power outage that caused a bunch of stereo mixing equipment to be stolen and redistributed, which in turn allowed many artists the means to practice their art as they couldn't before. Heck, the electric guitar amplifier was invented when a regular speaker fell off the roof of a travelling band's car and had to be patched on the spot.

Music comes from the heart of the artist. another1 is just another in a long line of racists who accuse black musicians of being bad people and leading people astray. The same was said of Blues, Jazz and even earlier brands of music. Indeed, he even seeks to rob the artists of their agency, slandering them isn't enough. They aren't even artists now, they are just people 'targeting' the 'black race' for some, unspoken nefarious purpose.

Obviously, there is no music in another1's heart, because if there was, he'd understand what music is. Strange that he'd obsessively 'memorize' hip hop lyrics if he's so against it. Reminds me of all the people who look at pornography, but are against porn. Just admit you like hip hop and that's ok. Plenty of white guys like hip hop. There's no shame.

 

[another1]

That's nothing that medication and a good 10 years of therapy won't make a small dent in.

Why change the way I think with worldly chems and brain wash, when it is the world that is the actual problem, Ford? That sure doesn't sound like a good idea to me. Oh Gosh, if too many people did that, we'd be screwed, Ford!

In order to skip the nonsense I'd have to avoid reading your drivel altogether. What do I think? That you're delusional.

Ford no one is paying you to respond to a delusional person. If I'm not a good debater, and I like to have fun, that is on me. If you come on my threads and tell me the world is not ending, I have to correct you. I can just as easily say that you are delusional from where I'm sitting. This is one of those times, Ford. I'm not right most of the time and I am bizarre to even myself when I go back and read things, but Ford you should listen this time. This will eventually affect even your little world.

Hip hop is not something that came from outside the black community, but from within. You'd know that if you bothered to learn the history.

Ford I come from inside and out of the black community, through their accounts and back. You don't need to confuse this reality with my own history knowledge. I'm more concerned with reality. History is cool and all, but I live where I live. Try it sometime, since we're being rude, try it, Ford.

The best introduction to what hip hop was and would be is "The Message" by Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five. It was literally a message to the rest of the world. This is what we're experiencing. This is what we're living. This is why we're angry.

Yes. And Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five were not gangster rap. No Ford.

"This is why we're angry."

You know why "they're" angry, and you've known it since Sugar Hill! Good job! Things have changed a bit, Ford. Things have changed a whole lot. They change rapidly nowadays. By the time I finish this post, they will be different. But there will still be one very negative, very large and very disturbing thing bumping by your windows at night. Closer and closer it gets. Choose to ignore it if you like.

Hip hop isn't influencing the black community

I'm not going to be immature and rude when I say you're delusional. I'm going to be quite literal. You really believe that? Dude that is a delusion. Seriously man, no Joshing around. That is disturbingly ignorant. Not you... I'm not saying you are disturbingly ignorant. I'm saying that what you think, is. You are wrong.

I believe it was Chuck D (of Public Enemy) that said hip hop is like black CNN.

Oh, because CNN isn't spouting outright lies in every breath, right? Great comparison, "Chuck D (of Public Enemy)".

It gives you the stories you aren't getting from the mainstream media.

Hip Hop (now) is mainstream media, Ford. I don't know how else to break this bad news to you. I just had to say it straight forward. No Chupacabras necessary.

I love hip hop in all forms.

I'm starting to, connick. Most recently gangsta stuff. Before, I liked using beats without words, since instrumental music is the way to go. Since starting the gangsta lyric memorization, I feel less guilty about resenting women, stealing things that don't belong to me, running from police, wanting the world to die and having a generally shitty outlook on things. Gangsta rap is the genocidal pessimist's handbook in that little way. I really do get a kick out of it. But we all get our kicks in different ways. I am an adult, and I knew reality before I heard gangsta rap. I was going to get you some numbers about how many babies are born / how many iTunes gangsta rap albums are purchased. It was going to horrify you the way I wanted to lay it all out. Then I forgot to do it because I got the urge to go hit a cop. Too much music lately maybe.

'kids today' are being driven to odd, weird, disrespectful, dangerous places and trends and hair styles and smoking and sex.

Yes Keith

But for the most part, music is written by people experiencing this shit already, reflecting what people are living

Yes. I'm aware of that.

That's why it becomes popular.

It becomes popular because it is overpublicized, and it strangles. You can follow the rise of gangsta rap with the rise of other terrible trends, and see the gangsta rap leads. More numbers I have to get for you. As a white man I'm having trouble understanding a lot of things about rap and the way it influences blacks. I've lived in black communities but I'll never be cool enough to say I truly understand what makes another race (much less another person) tick. I know my limitations. I also know my reality, and if you are sane, you're in it. In my reality, there is a race being damaged by a dumb music culture, and it is such an easy fix. That is why this is so frustrating. An entire race could be saved from certain doom, from just a few tweeks in "the industry", yet negativity continues to spew out. Always gushing.

How about whites? Think they're immune? I've seen PLENTY of the white side. The black part I now pick up from the internet and a few loose contacts. I no longer have the luxury of living around gangsters. Darn. Black people don't like me when I talk like this. Why, I do not know. I guess I'd feel stupid if I didn't already realize this, and maybe some of the rude backlash I receive from whites comes from the same sensation. Like, oh... maybe they're right. Derp. So right it is just fucking crazy, so I'll just stamp it crazy, sip my Dr Pepper and wait for it to come get me.

If it was alien music it couldn't resonate, and no one would buy the music.

You can say different words, in different ways... over the same beats, Keith. The music is fine. So is the message, but it is played up as reality wrapped in a direct order to disobey and do wrong. The "artists" I'm talking about are nothing short of evil, and they should be nowhere near a child's ear. They're permanently fixed in that very position, due to Hip Hop "culture". Not a good thing, man.

 

[PyramidHead]

If you feel that way, too bad. Part of the entry fee of living in a free society is that people can rap about whatever they want and culture isn't regulated from the top down.

What exactly are you afraid of, in the most simple, literal terms? You keep going on about a vague evil, and I gather it has something to do with hip-hop artists writing rhymes about stuff you don't like. Do you expect that people who otherwise would have no desire to engage in bad behavior will listen to this and decide to kill you? Tipper Gore tried that line of reasoning in the 90's, and was laughed out of the room. You'll find just as much violence and sex glorification in several varieties of metal, blues, classic country, and let's not leave out video games, TV, and movies while we're at it. And study after study has shown that there's no connection between consumption of such media and carrying out violent acts oneself, unless there was already a pre-existing impulse toward violence that wasn't changed in any substantive way by listening to a song.

There's nothing unique about hip-hop culture that warrants any kind of special treatment. You put the warning for explicit content on the material, just like you do with a movie, and then the kids want it more so they just download it somewhere and life goes on. Ideas will spread via artistic expression in any society that doesn't police its artists beyond that point. Your beef isn't with hip-hop culture, it's with culture.

 

[another1]

Rock and Roll didn't 'target' white people

Rock and Roll wasn't what you think it is, or was, until a certain point, when it was used inadvertently to "target". White race is safe, no need to bring up damages long since done.

Artists express themselves through their art, and those who do it well create a product that can be used to make a lot of money. That is all there is to it.

Sure, but then you have labels paid to hire only negative influences. You have something very bad in Hip Hop, and you're missing it. That, Sarpedon, is something "crazy and ignorant" to ignore. Your attitude bad. You may be no help, here.

What, do people think that there's some underground lab where music is invented and 'targeted?

Yes. But it isn't underground. And it is a slow thing. It builds. Hip Hop is in a good spot for influence right now. Though Hip Hop wasn't created in a lab, it is definitely being tested in some - with some astonishing results. Everything is tested, man. Because money.

Blues music came from sharecroppers at cotton plantations. Rock and Roll developed as Blues became popular over the whole country. Hip hop came about in poor urban neighborhoods, some say as a result of a power outage that caused a bunch of stereo mixing equipment to be stolen and redistributed, which in turn allowed many artists the means to practice their art as they couldn't before. Heck, the electric guitar amplifier was invented when a regular speaker fell off the roof of a travelling band's car and had to be patched on the spot.

Thank you for the music history lesson. It may do me some good on lighter topics. Hold on, Ima have to step back into something serious, Okay? Patience please.

Music comes from the heart of the artist.

Gangsta rap comes from labels.

another1 is just another in a long line of racists who accuse black musicians of being bad people and leading people astray.

Actually I'm not, but this isn't about me. Yelling racist when this comes up is part of our communication problem, so if you plan on adding that again, don't. Thank you. I like plenty of black musicians. I lost my virginity to a black girl. My racist card was burned on the spot, and since, I've done nothing but care. It is hard to care sometimes, Sarpedon. You have to stop and think. Look around. You have to be less of an asshole.

Indeed, he even seeks to rob the artists of their agency

Gnagsta rappers? Yes, I do.

They aren't even artists now, they are just people 'targeting' the 'black race' for some, unspoken nefarious purpose.

Nefarious is a beautiful word to speak and I love the meaning. Like Ford's famous Chuck D quote about CNN (controlling Negroes Nefariously). Perfect word I was looking for, thank you.

Like I said, it isn't the "artist". It is the label, and then it goes up from there. Where? I don't know, but honestly you're seeming foolish to me when you say that "the artist" is in control when it comes to gangsta rap.

Obviously, there is no music in another1's heart, because if there was, he'd understand what music is

I worked as a musician. I understand that things happen in the brain when we hear music. Oh, and when we repeat certain phrases, too. Like "pour gas on their kids and take their jewelry", or whatever. Do YOU understand music, Sarpedon? If you do, you know how powerful it truly is. Subtract the conspiracy. Other people are usually the ones turning legitimate concerns into conspiracy. You said the word first, remember.

Strange that he'd obsessively 'memorize' hip hop lyrics if he's so against it.

Dude how else am I to learn? Wat? You think it is strange how?

Just admit you like hip hop and that's ok.

I like Hip Hop. I'll see it transformed positively in my life, and I'll like it even more. I'll see the industry change. You will too. Just a little time and honesty necessary. It is in the hands of black people, at the end of the day. I have no chips in Hip Hop. I'm just calling it like I see it, and I see it as very, very bad.

 

[another1]

If you feel that way, too bad. Part of the entry fee of living in a free society is that people can rap about whatever they want and culture isn't regulated from the top down.

What exactly are you afraid of, in the most simple, literal terms? You keep going on about a vague evil, and I gather it has something to do with hip-hop artists writing rhymes about stuff you don't like. Do you expect that people who otherwise would have no desire to engage in bad behavior will listen to this and decide to kill you? Tipper Gore tried that line of reasoning in the 90's, and was laughed out of the room. You'll find just as much violence and sex glorification in several varieties of metal, blues, classic country, and let's not leave out video games, TV, and movies while we're at it. And study after study has shown that there's no connection between consumption of such media and carrying out violent acts oneself, unless there was already a pre-existing impulse toward violence that wasn't changed in any substantive way by listening to a song.

There's nothing unique about hip-hop culture that warrants any kind of special treatment. You put the warning for explicit content on the material, just like you do with a movie, and then the kids want it more so they just download it somewhere and life goes on. Ideas will spread via artistic expression in any society that doesn't police its artists beyond that point. Your beef isn't with hip-hop culture, it's with culture.

What if my beef is with culture? You said the rest quite well btw. I wouldn't disagree if I were ignorant. I'm not, though. Not to this problem.

Culture, PyramidHead. How much does gangsta rap influence black culture? A little? A lot?

A lot. Way too much. And it is getting worse. I'll find you some external material because I'm tired of being played with. You think this is some little bullshity stuff someone cooked up while smoking a joint? Maybe you can go look for yourself. This is a huge concern, man. Lotta people trying to vowel it out. I have problems finding vids that don't use the word illuminati, so I do not link those. Stupid. Some of the key things you need to know are in those videos, so if you are actually interested, go look. I'll spare you those videos and give you a filtered interpretation. We all know it is the Chupacabra and not the illuminati running around snatching kids.

 

[Sarpedon]

Rock and Roll wasn't what you think it is, or was, until a certain point, when it was used inadvertently to "target". White race is safe, no need to bring up damages long since done.

Yeah, I think it was a cultural phenomenon that revolved around music and the desires of baby boomers to rebel against their parents and their tin pan alley bullshit. Obviously it was really just some commie plot or something. I dunno, I guess it all went downhill with the Beatles and their singing about tolerance and stuff like that.

Out of curiosity, what sort of musician are you?

And allegedly having sex with black people doesn't make you not racist. The fact that you use terms like 'the white race' and 'the black race' in all seriousness is what makes you a racist.

 

[another1]

I'm not talking about rock. We all know what rock has done. Plain to see. What threatens society right now is the influence of a certain music, on a certain race. The black race.

And I did electronic and rock when I was younger, Sarpedon. Lots of stuff. Failed at it so I don't do it anymore. And you're right, sex with another race doesn't make you less disgusted by that race's level of susceptibility to evil. I wouldn't call that racism, but heh.

What is a black person? A young black person? A poor one? With no substantial influence, other than the trappings of rap? I call it 30%

As for external sources, I found something relating to something written in 1999 and it sickens me to have such trouble finding more recent stuff. People are either 100% 'noid about the issue, or treating it like it is not there, or harmless. It isn't harmless.

Link says "violent rap music has shown to make people more excited or inclined to violence, however the choice of music and the decision to react physically towards it is incumbent upon the listener", but who are the listeners? Where are their Dads to say hey, this is just "entertainment, no need to mold your life around it. Where is Mom? At work? Because money? What is really going on?

"Additionally, despite the musics effects on the psyche, it has shown to lower testosterone in men, making them less likely to act upon these lyrics."

Oh dear GOD. It is worse than I thought. As if my testosterone could get any lower. I'm subjecting myself to something worse than I thought.

"Additionally, gangster rap accounts for merely a thimble’s worth of the relevant rap music available."

Naw, not even. What year did they write this shit?

I start to get sick about this. My mana decreases or something. 2Chains and the gang have been robbing me of testosterone this whole time. That explains it. But that isn't even the problem I want to point out. There are poulstices for low T but no cure in sight for gangsta rap. Any suggestions?

 

[Sarpedon]

I think you need more than a poulstice. I was going to taunt you to get that drawing of the Chupacabra done, but now I think you need to rest and maybe see a doctor. You got obamacare, right?

 

[PyramidHead]

What if my beef is with culture? You said the rest quite well btw. I wouldn't disagree if I were ignorant. I'm not, though. Not to this problem.

Culture, PyramidHead. How much does gangsta rap influence black culture? A little? A lot?

A lot. Way too much. And it is getting worse. I'll find you some external material because I'm tired of being played with. You think this is some little bullshity stuff someone cooked up while smoking a joint? Maybe you can go look for yourself. This is a huge concern, man. Lotta people trying to vowel it out. I have problems finding vids that don't use the word illuminati, so I do not link those. Stupid. Some of the key things you need to know are in those videos, so if you are actually interested, go look. I'll spare you those videos and give you a filtered interpretation. We all know it is the Chupacabra and not the illuminati running around snatching kids.

Record labels promoting gangsta rap is no different from production studios promoting movies with violence in them. Movies about organized crime, gang warfare, gladiator combat. Artists have a desire to make art that contains these tropes, and the audience has a desire to view it. The industry just capitalizes on the situation as a middleman. A lot of gangsta rap is independent now, with no labels involved. Just people putting up their shit on Soundcloud. There's nothing that has to be done, which is good because there's nothing to do. What would you even do? Outlaw hip-hop? Regulate what is okay to rap about? That's partly what started the genre in the first place, blacks getting tired of people telling them it was impolite to describe the reality of living in Compton. Kids are pretty smart these days. A slim minority of them might actually do something stupid because their favorite MC spit a verse about it, but the rest of them need a society that wants them to succeed in life, not censors what they are exposed to.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Is this poe, because otherwise, it is really dumb.


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[another1]

think you need more than a poulstice. I was going to taunt you to get that drawing of the Chupacabra done, but now I think you need to rest and maybe see a doctor. You got obamacare, right?

Stopping gangsta rap is low on my immediate priority list, considering I pay for stuff that shouldn't cost money, and constantly scramble for the stuff. No Obamacare or Momacare here, so just stop being snarky because I'm real. I apologize for coming off that way earlier. And forgive me for continuing because it at least keeps you talking about it. Good times, but hey. I just checked... gangsta rap is still destroying blacks! Uh Ohoooh

Record labels promoting gangsta rap is no different from production studios promoting movies with violence in them. Movies about organized crime, gang warfare, gladiator combat.

Yes, and I agree that we should do something about it. Warfare movies are awesome for all races. Those can sit on the burner (in their ridiculous abundance) until one type of "studio" chills the hell out. I mean Jesus Christ one thing at a time.

Artists have a desire to make art that contains these tropes, and the audience has a desire to view it.

No doubt and they should have the right not to. Doesn't seem to be any of that, where they are born into. I don't just mean a black community, I mean the web of techno social stuff that is becoming better than life. It is hardest at work there. No avoiding it at all. Not even a little. So make a note of that I guess, good going, thank you.

The industry just capitalizes on the situation as a middleman

No, the industry is what makes the reality within which the indie and the biggies thrive.

What would you even do? Outlaw hip-hop?

No, I'd push for heavy censorship, dismantling of labels, huge change on television (good luck) and more importantly I'd talk about it on the internet all day. The last option is all I have at the moment, sorry.

There's nothing that has to be done, which is good because there's nothing to do.

Oh my God. I say that every morning before I take a shower. That is spooky ironic. Once I smell the Coast and stimulate my genitals I start sinking back into reality, where things always have to be done, because there are things.

Kids are pretty smart these days. A slim minority of them might actually do something stupid because their favorite MC spit a verse about it, but the rest of them need a society that wants them to succeed in life, not censors what they are exposed to.

I don't think kids are any smarter these days, we just expect them to be stupid and clap when they don't trip and die. This slim minority you speak of is 80% of the black youth in my city. A bit of them are posers, so I don't say 95%, which I should. The mindset spreads down South, I can say that. I'll only speak in my experience on that. The attitude of fuck that is from here to Fla, and it is going to get people killed. The attitude is incubated and spread through something that can blanketedly be called Hip Hop. And yes I'm all about people spitting verses. Most of the people I know doing it are relying on memorized gangsta rap, and they say "whore, bitch, slut" in every Goddamn sentence. Never a positive thing when it comes to women. But heh, they're just expressing themselves.

 

[another1]

[YOUTUBE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEdaZBM8Tps[/YOUTUBE]

Here is a black professor who listens to nothing but Hip Hop. 12:20 mark is where I would recommend pressing play, because he brings zombies into the mix, making things more relevant to 2017.

 

[another1]

Well that ties it off I guess. Glad we agree.

Remember that Hip Hop is the largest musical entity to arise in the last sixty years. Bigger than the Beatles. Remember the Beatles? In ten years nobody will, unless they're sampled in a song about killing your family for money to buy shoes, drugs and whores.

Likely, never in your life will you see a more powerful musical force. Underestimating how it affects an already (justifiably) enraged race isn't recommended. Dr. Blackman there is half full of it, but I doubt I could say it better in person, so there it is. You Tube can suggest proper links to follow once there. Had more links but I don't think they are necessary at this point.

This is my biggest concern when it comes to any race. What people put into their brains affects my reality. Black reality is just murdered right now. It isn't that you're subconsciously racists, that you don't like BET. It is your instinct for survival, maybe. IT just got bigger, before I finished typing this. Oh God the numbers. Most popular form of music in America (18-30 aka most likely to kill you), and of course the most popular genre.. is planning your murder. Subtle and slow. That goes if you are white or black. It is just brain murder. Good job paying attention and sorry for the dumb format I have here.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

The reason Gangsta Rap exists is because of the movie Dragnet.

 

[Sarpedon]

This thread can be summed up in a phrase:

Old People Don't Approve of the Music Young People are Listening To: Entry #1112.