How should west respond to potential (likely) Russian invasion of Ukraine?

[barbos]

But how could we resist?

Of course you could not resist in 1991 to continue with your war on Russia until today and really forever.

 

[barbos]

Putin created a dream situation for the US

Yes, when he said (in 2007) that NATO can't expand into former Russia.

 

[Harry Bosch]

Your country invaded their country,

Nope, YOUR Country attacked my Country.

How many US troops in Russia?

You have to ask Pentagon. But including ukro-nazi proxies I would say hundreds of thousands.

Ukrainians are not Americans.

Irrelevant. Salaries are paid by US, weapons supplied by US. intelligence, military planning and logistics are provided by US too.

Sure, now. But how could we resist? Y'all thought you'd just walk into Kyiv as you pleased and instead the world got to see Russia get pantsed. There had to be a collective, "Holy shit these guys suck." spoken around the world. Boy was your army overestimated. If there was any propaganda it was between our intel and defense industry colluding to keep Russia propped up as a force to be reckoned with. And don't even get me started on your navy. I mean, we all thought Ukraine was as good as gone, would be done for in a couple weeks. But then Ukraine handed Russia her ass. You could hardly fault us for getting us a piece of that. I don't mean to make light of the situation, the harm Ukraine is suffering but setting that aside, Putin created a dream situation for the US. Make that a wet dream.

So next time you invade some terrorist state you should expect Russia helping terrotists to repel invasion. Got it.

What are you talking about?? You guys arm our enemies every time! You armed the North Koreans, viet cong, Iraq, Iranians, and etc. We didn’t whine about it. If you don’t want your soldiers killed by NATO weapons stop fucking invading foreign countries.

 

[barbos]

Your country invaded their country,

Nope, YOUR Country attacked my Country.

How many US troops in Russia?

You have to ask Pentagon. But including ukro-nazi proxies I would say hundreds of thousands.

Ukrainians are not Americans.

Irrelevant. Salaries are paid by US, weapons supplied by US. intelligence, military planning and logistics are provided by US too.

Sure, now. But how could we resist? Y'all thought you'd just walk into Kyiv as you pleased and instead the world got to see Russia get pantsed. There had to be a collective, "Holy shit these guys suck." spoken around the world. Boy was your army overestimated. If there was any propaganda it was between our intel and defense industry colluding to keep Russia propped up as a force to be reckoned with. And don't even get me started on your navy. I mean, we all thought Ukraine was as good as gone, would be done for in a couple weeks. But then Ukraine handed Russia her ass. You could hardly fault us for getting us a piece of that. I don't mean to make light of the situation, the harm Ukraine is suffering but setting that aside, Putin created a dream situation for the US. Make that a wet dream.

So next time you invade some terrorist state you should expect Russia helping terrotists to repel invasion. Got it.

What are you talking about?? You guys arm our enemies every time! You armed the North Koreans, viet cong, Iraq, Iranians, and etc. We didn’t whine about it. If you don’t want your soldiers killed by NATO weapons stop fucking invading foreign countries!

You have got it completely backward. Your regime automatically considers any russian ally as your enemy and start war with them.

What I am talking about is Russia actively finding assholes which we don't really like and funding them in order to attack US. Which is what US have been doing with respect to Russia.
You funded islamic terrorists, ukro-nazi, georgian nazi, ISIS, Central american death squads and drug dealers.

 

[Harry Bosch]

Your country invaded their country,

Nope, YOUR Country attacked my Country.

How many US troops in Russia?

You have to ask Pentagon. But including ukro-nazi proxies I would say hundreds of thousands.

Ukrainians are not Americans.

Irrelevant. Salaries are paid by US, weapons supplied by US. intelligence, military planning and logistics are provided by US too.

Sure, now. But how could we resist? Y'all thought you'd just walk into Kyiv as you pleased and instead the world got to see Russia get pantsed. There had to be a collective, "Holy shit these guys suck." spoken around the world. Boy was your army overestimated. If there was any propaganda it was between our intel and defense industry colluding to keep Russia propped up as a force to be reckoned with. And don't even get me started on your navy. I mean, we all thought Ukraine was as good as gone, would be done for in a couple weeks. But then Ukraine handed Russia her ass. You could hardly fault us for getting us a piece of that. I don't mean to make light of the situation, the harm Ukraine is suffering but setting that aside, Putin created a dream situation for the US. Make that a wet dream.

So next time you invade some terrorist state you should expect Russia helping terrotists to repel invasion. Got it.

What are you talking about?? You guys arm our enemies every time! You armed the North Koreans, viet cong, Iraq, Iranians, and etc. We didn’t whine about it. If you don’t want your soldiers killed by NATO weapons stop fucking invading foreign countries!

You have got it completely backward. Your regime automatically considers any russian ally as your enemy and start war with them.

What I am talking about is Russia actively finding assholes which we don't really like and funding them in order to attack US. Which is what US have been doing with respect to Russia.
You funded islamic terrorists, ukro-nazi, georgian nazi, ISIS, Central american death squads and drug dealers.

The difference between you and I is that I’m against American imperialism and Russian imperialism. Again, if you don’t want American Javelins jacking up your tanks, go home. Don’t invade other countries. Simple.

 

[barbos]

The difference between you and I is that I’m against American imperialism and Russian imperialism.

You have said that many times. And I have replied to it few times.
Let me try again. There is no such thing as Russian imperialism.
And secondly, you are not really against American imperialism.

The fact is, American aggression against Russia in Ukraine IS American Imperialism.

At least you admit that US actively funds all kinds of terrorist scum in order to fight this mythical russian "imperialism"

 

[barbos]

Again, if you don’t want American Javelins jacking up your tanks, go home. Don’t invade other countries.

That's rich coming from USian.

And please stop this Javelins nonsense. You look like a Trump. They have been pretty useless in Ukraine.

 

[barbos]

Speaking of american wunderwaffe. Another F-16 was shot down few days ago.
Ukro-regime tries to imply that it was friendly fire, saying that F-16 flies without friend-or-foe systems, which I find hard to believe. Russians in-the-know say nothing, but experts say it was more likely a work of russian anti-aircraft systems.
Ukro-nazi would rather lie than admit that F-16 was shot down by russian forces.

 

[zorq]

Anyway your imbecilic theory of "unprovoked invasion" had become tiresome long time ago.
You can sell it to each other, that's fine. But you can't sell it to russians, and really the rest of the world. That's really what Daniel Davis keeps talking about.

Yet somehow you can never actually point out anything provocative that anyone did to Russia. Why are you so deliberately blind to simple facts? Russian aggression , violence, and sadism in Ukraine remains completely unjustified by any rational or civilized measure. (Surely if one existed you would have provided it by now.)

 

[barbos]

Yet somehow you can never actually point out anything provocative that anyone did to Russia.

That's patently false. I did and do so constantly. The usual suspects here simply ignore it.
You dismiss/ignore Nuland leaks, you dismiss leaks from John Kerry. You dismiss inconvinient claims from Merkel&Co herself. All you do is repeat this ridiculous script about unprovoked invasion and Putin being Hitler bent over on invading everyone.
When in reality it took enormous effort and provocations on the part of the collective West to make him to "invade" Eastern Ukraine. I bet you all my money that on the day of "invasion" people in the State Department were patting themselves on the backs and saying "Finally!"

 

[barbos]

Russian aggression , violence, and sadism in Ukraine remains completely unjustified by any rational or civilized measure

That's patented lies and projections.

 

[barbos]

one of the comments:

Turns out the ‘Russian disinformation’ was right all along

 

[zorq]

Yet somehow you can never actually point out anything provocative that anyone did to Russia.

That's patently false. I did and do so constantly. The usual suspects here simply ignore it.
You dismiss/ignore Nuland leaks, you dismiss leaks from John Kerry. You dismiss inconvinient claims from Merkel&Co herself. All you do is repeat this ridiculous script about unprovoked invasion and Putin being Hitler bent over on invading everyone.
When in reality it took enormous effort and provocations on the part of the collective West to make him to "invade" Eastern Ukraine. I bet you all my money that on the day of "invasion" people in the State Department were patting themselves on the backs and saying "Finally!"

Still can't point to anything provocative. Not surprised. You live in a fantasy land.

 

[barbos]

Yet somehow you can never actually point out anything provocative that anyone did to Russia.

That's patently false. I did and do so constantly. The usual suspects here simply ignore it.
You dismiss/ignore Nuland leaks, you dismiss leaks from John Kerry. You dismiss inconvinient claims from Merkel&Co herself. All you do is repeat this ridiculous script about unprovoked invasion and Putin being Hitler bent over on invading everyone.
When in reality it took enormous effort and provocations on the part of the collective West to make him to "invade" Eastern Ukraine. I bet you all my money that on the day of "invasion" people in the State Department were patting themselves on the backs and saying "Finally!"

Still can't point to anything provocative. Not surprised. You live in a fantasy land.

Still clinging to strategy of flat out lying about me.

 

[zorq]

Where

Yet somehow you can never actually point out anything provocative that anyone did to Russia.

That's patently false. I did and do so constantly. The usual suspects here simply ignore it.
You dismiss/ignore Nuland leaks, you dismiss leaks from John Kerry. You dismiss inconvinient claims from Merkel&Co herself. All you do is repeat this ridiculous script about unprovoked invasion and Putin being Hitler bent over on invading everyone.
When in reality it took enormous effort and provocations on the part of the collective West to make him to "invade" Eastern Ukraine. I bet you all my money that on the day of "invasion" people in the State Department were patting themselves on the backs and saying "Finally!"

Still can't point to anything provocative. Not surprised. You live in a fantasy land.

Still clinging to strategy of flat out lying about me.

If you had ever posted anything actually resembling evidence to support your conspiracy theories I would happily reconsider my opinion of you and Russia. You see, I actually value the truth. It is such a pity you clearly don't.

 

[TV and credit cards]

An Opinion of Putin's 2007 Munich Speech by Daniel Fried and Kurt Volker 02/18/2022

Meanwhile, Putin became even more skilled at shaping a favorable public narrative. Though he lost the staunchly pro-transatlantic audience in the room in Munich, his target audience was somewhere else: European publics who could be made sympathetic to his grievances while blaming their own governments and the United States for allegedly threatening Russia. It was a playbook the Soviet Union had used in countering Pershing missile deployments in Germany in the 1980s.

Putin and his propaganda machine are using that same tactic now: emphasizing grievance to support historical revisionism and provide cover for reassertion of Kremlin control over territories it regards as rightfully its own. And now, even more than in 2007, some in Europe and the US accept the Kremlin line that NATO enlargement, an instrument designed to advance a united Europe, is the true source of Russia’s threats against Ukraine today -- rather than Putin’s desire to rebuild a greater Russia, authoritarian at home and aggressive abroad.

Putin's 2007 Speech

 

[barbos]

An Opinion of Putin's 2007 Munich Speech by Daniel Fried and Kurt Volker 02/18/2022

Meanwhile, Putin became even more skilled at shaping a favorable public narrative. Though he lost the staunchly pro-transatlantic audience in the room in Munich, his target audience was somewhere else: European publics who could be made sympathetic to his grievances while blaming their own governments and the United States for allegedly threatening Russia. It was a playbook the Soviet Union had used in countering Pershing missile deployments in Germany in the 1980s.

Putin and his propaganda machine are using that same tactic now: emphasizing grievance to support historical revisionism and provide cover for reassertion of Kremlin control over territories it regards as rightfully its own. And now, even more than in 2007, some in Europe and the US accept the Kremlin line that NATO enlargement, an instrument designed to advance a united Europe, is the true source of Russia’s threats against Ukraine today -- rather than Putin’s desire to rebuild a greater Russia, authoritarian at home and aggressive abroad.

Putin's 2007 Speech

And Putin started to rebuild greater Russia after 7 (or 15 if you like) years after the speech.
Damn, that dude is slow. By that rate he will invade Poland in 2150.
He must be a vampire.

 

[barbos]

emphasizing grievance to support historical revisionism and provide cover for reassertion of Kremlin control over territories it regards as rightfully its own

It's not just Putin. It's me too. Until 2003 I had been thinking that Crimea was legally Russia, literally.
I honestly thought it was Russia. And Unlike Cuba which you think belongs to US there were good reasons for that.

 

[barbos]

Seriously, what is more likely?
What people like Jeffrey Sacks and Mearsheimer say or people like BoJo, Ursula and that Kallas lady who said it was Putin who cut gas supply to Germany?

And BoJo literally blurted what Putin has been saying,..... repeatedly. And yet you continue this Putin wants to invade Europe.

Do you understand that the way canadians handled their nazi affair is deeply offensive to anyone over 45 in Russia? I understand that these assholes were/are primarily concerned with their own "electorate". But you need to understand that it was utterly mishandled with respect to Russian "electorate". Canadians and the rest of western leaders can forget about any semblense of respect and populatity in Russua until they handle it properly.
And "properly" includes Ukraine. You can not lecture russians about Ukraine at all.
You should shut you pie-hole for the next 50 years and use it only for appologies with respect to Russia.

 

[ZiprHead]

Again, if you don’t want American Javelins jacking up your tanks, go home. Don’t invade other countries.

That's rich coming from USian.

And please stop this Javelins nonsense. You look like a Trump. They have been pretty useless in Ukraine.

Uh huh...

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