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How should west respond to potential (likely) Russian invasion of Ukraine?

barbos said:
zorq said:
It has been years now and Barbos has never given a legitimate excuse for Russia's ruthless and unprovoked attack on Ukraine. It's really sad that someone can cheer so happily for such unethical and depraved behavior. But I guess I have become used to talking to Russians and Christians over the years. My opinion of humanity used to be so optimistic. I am growing jaded as I learn just how willing people are to believe any lies that help them feel more comfortable with their life and choices.
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I have given the reasons millions of times. You are repeating falsehoods.
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You have given conspiracy theories with no evidence millions of times. You are irrationally paranoid and let your emotions dictate your beliefs, not evidence or reason.
 
barbos said:
zorq said:
You have given conspiracy theories with no evidence millions of times
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Right, if you don't like something and have no answer just call facts based arguments conspiracy theories.
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Consider this fact based argument:

>Fact: You have never once provided any evidence that Victoria Nuland did anything corrupt, illegal, or was at all involved in anything related to EuroMaidan.
>Fact: You still insist that she personally planned and executed the events that lead to the legal transition of power away from Yanukovich.
>Fact: This belief is irrational because it is not supported by anything other than your prejudice and paranoia. (Citation: This entire thread.)

>Opinion: Even if Nuland HAD planned and executed the events that lead to the legal transition of power away from Yanukovich, it still wouldn't justify Russia's depraved violence against Ukraine. Murder is very bad. And you are very bad for cheering for it.
 
zorq said:
>Fact: You have never once provided any evidence that Victoria Nuland did anything corrupt, illegal, or was at all involved in anything related to EuroMaidan.
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Says who? She funded nazi groups in Ukraine. She funded nazi groups in Georgia. Georgians themselves literally said that.
 
zorq said:
>Fact: You still insist that she personally planned and executed the events that lead to the legal transition of power away from Yanukovich.
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Why do you keep bringing her up?
She did all the shit I said she did. But she was not alone.

zorq said:
>Fact: This belief is irrational because it is not supported by anything other than your prejudice and paranoia. (Citation: This entire thread.)
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Utter BS. Georgians literally said that your motherfuckers literally said "Go to war with Russia, we will help you, you will die of course but we will help you" Georgians said, "No, thank you"
Your fucking motherfucking prostitutes in Europe fucking compete with each other in "Who can be most harrasing towards Russia" Olympics. And has been going on for decades and well documented.
Putin administration has been extremely negligent in that respect. They had been ignoring this shit until this war.
They should be mass prosecuting scum like Graham.
 
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