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Huntington Beach - Surf City Citizens Make Leaders Obey
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arkirk
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Why would anybody want to wish more plastic polluting our oceans. That is where this plastic bag and bottle shit goes...into the ocean...especially in a beach city. Listen to Breitbart News? Give me a break, Max. What a small thing is asked of you to comply with a plastic bag ban...and for you to imagine somehow that defying it is empowering freedom or democracy. I have to laugh at this.
I am sure that petrochemical money (votes)did get what they wanted.
maxparrish
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Clearly the only "rebuttal" on in this thread is not based on an avowed respect for science; it is based on a "feeling", a sort of impossible to define Victorian styled sniffing at a social "indecency". Yet the actual harm of single-use plastic bags is no more real than that of the 'harm' caused by unskirtted table legs.
No one thinks it is a good thing to pollute our oceans, but of what relevance is that "problem" to those using plastic bags (or bottles) in Fresno, Austin, or any other non-coastal city? What relevance is it to any land fill that is not next to the ocean or an estuary (i.e. most landfills are not)? How likely is it that the claimed amounts of plastic bags and bottles (if not recycled) make it's way from Salt Lake City or Dallas to end up drowning baby seals and plugging the blow holes of killer whales?
Yes, there is plenty of litter in the ocean that ends up on island shores, but I have yet to find any evidence that plastic bags are a major component OR that west coast states of the US are a major contributor of bags or bottles (note: sometime ago NYC used to barge its garbage out to the Continental shelf and dump it in the ocean, but I assume that practice has ended).
Single use (which are often multi-use in practice) plastic bags are a great convenience, inexpensive, and energy efficient - the alternatives are not. The ban is useless and stupid.