Immigration Issues

[Gospel]

ICE tried to detain a friend last Thursday. She was on her way to work. They decided to run a little check point in an area where there are a lot of migrant farm workers. She is a citizen on her way to an academic job of the science type.

She produced a Real ID driver license. Not enough, could be fake. Birth certificate produced. That was suspicious because why would she have it if she were a citizen. Likely also fake then. He was trying to remove her from the vehicle to detain her until she could prove that the documents weren’t fake. A sheriff deputy that went to high school with her stepped in and vouched for her. ICE said “we’ll get you next time bitch” as she drove off.

You GOP apologists are just scum.

I’ll take “Things That Never Happened “ for $500, Alex.

I’ll give you this, your reply was funny. But whether this specific story is true isn’t really the issue, and I’m not treating it as verified. What makes stories like this seem plausible is that there are documented examples of aggressive enforcement practices, mistaken detentions, and inflammatory internal rhetoric from DHS and ICE, both in reporting and official records.

 

[crazyfingers]

ICE tried to detain a friend last Thursday. She was on her way to work. They decided to run a little check point in an area where there are a lot of migrant farm workers. She is a citizen on her way to an academic job of the science type.

She produced a Real ID driver license. Not enough, could be fake. Birth certificate produced. That was suspicious because why would she have it if she were a citizen. Likely also fake then. He was trying to remove her from the vehicle to detain her until she could prove that the documents weren’t fake. A sheriff deputy that went to high school with her stepped in and vouched for her. ICE said “we’ll get you next time bitch” as she drove off.

You GOP apologists are just scum.

Why would she carry that stuff? Because ICE are scum.

I'm white. My family has been on Cape Cod, MA and Maine since the 1600's. But I still carry photos of my passport, my birth certificate, my parent's birth and death certificates on my phone with me.

But of course ICE will not look at that stuff. They abduct first and a month later look at documents. Fucking evil fucks are ICE. J6 insurrectionists all of them it seems.

The ICE goon squad

Opinion | ‘This Is Trump’s Goon Squad, for Christ’s Sake’

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www.nytimes.com

 

[TSwizzle]

ICE tried to detain a friend last Thursday. She was on her way to work. They decided to run a little check point in an area where there are a lot of migrant farm workers. She is a citizen on her way to an academic job of the science type.

She produced a Real ID driver license. Not enough, could be fake. Birth certificate produced. That was suspicious because why would she have it if she were a citizen. Likely also fake then. He was trying to remove her from the vehicle to detain her until she could prove that the documents weren’t fake. A sheriff deputy that went to high school with her stepped in and vouched for her. ICE said “we’ll get you next time bitch” as she drove off.

You GOP apologists are just scum.

I’ll take “Things That Never Happened “ for $500, Alex.

?? This type of thing of happening all over the country?

Not hardly.

Why do you think that they wear masks? You think that they are sensitive and don't want to spread their germs to people or something??

ICE agents wear masks to prevent agents being “doxed” and attacked by lunatics.

Why do you think the unhinged “protesters” wear masks when they are rioting?

 

[GenesisNemesis]

ICE tried to detain a friend last Thursday. She was on her way to work. They decided to run a little check point in an area where there are a lot of migrant farm workers. She is a citizen on her way to an academic job of the science type.

She produced a Real ID driver license. Not enough, could be fake. Birth certificate produced. That was suspicious because why would she have it if she were a citizen. Likely also fake then. He was trying to remove her from the vehicle to detain her until she could prove that the documents weren’t fake. A sheriff deputy that went to high school with her stepped in and vouched for her. ICE said “we’ll get you next time bitch” as she drove off.

You GOP apologists are just scum.

I’ll take “Things That Never Happened “ for $500, Alex.

Tswizzle's bullshit detector is totally known to be highly accurate.

 

[GenesisNemesis]

Docs: Man arrested in I-5 shooting said he was an armed militia on a mission

A Douglas County Man is being held on a million dollars bail after a frightening shooting incident on I-5 last week.Several police agencies including Oregon St

katu.com

OMG. What an ANIMAL!!!111

 

[scombrid]

ICE tried to detain a friend last Thursday. She was on her way to work. They decided to run a little check point in an area where there are a lot of migrant farm workers. She is a citizen on her way to an academic job of the science type.

She produced a Real ID driver license. Not enough, could be fake. Birth certificate produced. That was suspicious because why would she have it if she were a citizen. Likely also fake then. He was trying to remove her from the vehicle to detain her until she could prove that the documents weren’t fake. A sheriff deputy that went to high school with her stepped in and vouched for her. ICE said “we’ll get you next time bitch” as she drove off.

You GOP apologists are just scum.

Were they profiling?

ICE has a bus load of migrant workers pulled and then demands papers from a brownish woman stuck in the traffic and then decides on the spot that the papers are probably fake. Seems profiled since they weren’t doing it to all vehicles trying to get past their little operation.

 

[Gospel]

ICE agents wear masks to prevent agents being “doxed” and attacked by lunatics.

Why do you think the unhinged “protesters” wear masks when they are rioting?

• If masking = sign of bad intent
• And ICE agents are masking

Edit: Before you fall back on the doxxing argument, you might want to consider that ICE agents were masking well before any of that surfaced.
Edit2: I was wrong about Edit 1. It did not become widespread until it was formalized as policy in 2025, but I still doubt that no ICE agent had ever used a mask before then.

 

[Harry Bosch]

ICE tried to detain a friend last Thursday. She was on her way to work. They decided to run a little check point in an area where there are a lot of migrant farm workers. She is a citizen on her way to an academic job of the science type.

She produced a Real ID driver license. Not enough, could be fake. Birth certificate produced. That was suspicious because why would she have it if she were a citizen. Likely also fake then. He was trying to remove her from the vehicle to detain her until she could prove that the documents weren’t fake. A sheriff deputy that went to high school with her stepped in and vouched for her. ICE said “we’ll get you next time bitch” as she drove off.

You GOP apologists are just scum.

I’ll take “Things That Never Happened “ for $500, Alex.

?? This type of thing of happening all over the country?

Not hardly.

Why do you think that they wear masks? You think that they are sensitive and don't want to spread their germs to people or something??

ICE agents wear masks to prevent agents being “doxed” and attacked by lunatics.

Why do you think the unhinged “protesters” wear masks when they are rioting?

They are being doxed because they are acting like entitled assholes who have no accountability. Under Obama, ICE agents didn't need masks. Obama kicked out more undocumented people than Trump. But ICE wasn't hated then as they are now. Why? What's the difference. The difference starts at the top. Obama wanted ICE to focus on "felons, not families". Obama focused on prioritizing criminals, which softened public perception. Obama wanted ICE to be run more similar to routine law enforcement agency conducting targeted raids. He wanted them operated as matter of fact, follow local rules, have embedded reporters, be nice, work with the local police, don't be assholes.

The Trump administration has done the opposite. They are targeting brown people demanding papers. They are using tricks (baiting children, using corrosion, intimidation). Trump wants ICE to use aggressive tactics to intimidate, hoping some will "self-deport". Trump sends more ICE into democratic cities than republican cities in order to punish people that didn't vote for him.

Under Obama, ICE operated with less public scrutiny, less polarizing rhetoric, and a narrower enforcement focus. Under Trump, ICE has become a hyper-political goon squad.

 

[scombrid]

ICE tried to detain a friend last Thursday. She was on her way to work. They decided to run a little check point in an area where there are a lot of migrant farm workers. She is a citizen on her way to an academic job of the science type.

She produced a Real ID driver license. Not enough, could be fake. Birth certificate produced. That was suspicious because why would she have it if she were a citizen. Likely also fake then. He was trying to remove her from the vehicle to detain her until she could prove that the documents weren’t fake. A sheriff deputy that went to high school with her stepped in and vouched for her. ICE said “we’ll get you next time bitch” as she drove off.

You GOP apologists are just scum.

I’ll take “Things That Never Happened “ for $500, Alex.

?? This type of thing of happening all over the country? Why do you think that they wear masks? You think that they are sensitive and don't want to spread their germs to people or something??

ICE tried to detain a friend last Thursday. She was on her way to work. They decided to run a little check point in an area where there are a lot of migrant farm workers. She is a citizen on her way to an academic job of the science type.

She produced a Real ID driver license. Not enough, could be fake. Birth certificate produced. That was suspicious because why would she have it if she were a citizen. Likely also fake then. He was trying to remove her from the vehicle to detain her until she could prove that the documents weren’t fake. A sheriff deputy that went to high school with her stepped in and vouched for her. ICE said “we’ll get you next time bitch” as she drove off.

You GOP apologists are just scum.

I’ll take “Things That Never Happened “ for $500, Alex.

I’ll give you this, your reply was funny. But whether this specific story is true isn’t really the issue, and I’m not treating it as verified. What makes stories like this seem plausible is that there are documented examples of aggressive enforcement practices, mistaken detentions, and inflammatory internal rhetoric from DHS and ICE, both in reporting and official records.

Plenty of 911 calls being released that verify this behavior by ICE. And we can just take Steven Miller at his word.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Why do you think that they wear masks? You think that they are sensitive and don't want to spread their germs to people or something??

ICE agents wear masks to prevent agents being “doxed” and attacked by lunatics.

So much for:

When the people fear the government, there is tyranny. When the government fears the people, there is liberty. - unknown

Our 'liberty' folks mocked protestors doing a sit-in gassed by local police and now plea for the safety of federal agents who are assaulting protestors and other people they feel like they can assault after pulling them over.

Why do you think the unhinged “protesters” wear masks when they are rioting?

"Protestors" that are "rioting" are wearing masks to avoid being identified while committing crimes. Protestors with masks may very well have them just in case they are gassed by ICE agents. The two dead Americans weren't wearing masks and they were murdered.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

They are being doxed because they are acting like entitled assholes who have no accountability.

Can someone please provide evidence there was any actual "dox'ing". I'm not exactly going to take the Trump Admin's word for it.

 

[Gospel]

They are being doxed because they are acting like entitled assholes who have no accountability.

Can someone please provide evidence there was any actual "dox'ing". I'm not exactly going to take the Trump Admin's word for it.

That recent protest at the church, where Don Lemon was arrested, is one of the more high-profile examples.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

They are being doxed because they are acting like entitled assholes who have no accountability.

Can someone please provide evidence there was any actual "dox'ing". I'm not exactly going to take the Trump Admin's word for it.

That recent protest at the church, where Don Lemon was arrested, is one of the more high-profile examples.

That was dox'ing? I always equated "dox'ing" for intent to harm via anonymous methods.

They were already wearing masks at that point anyway. They've been wearing masks for a long while.

 

[Harry Bosch]

They are being doxed because they are acting like entitled assholes who have no accountability.

Can someone please provide evidence there was any actual "dox'ing". I'm not exactly going to take the Trump Admin's word for it.

That recent protest at the church, where Don Lemon was arrested, is one of the more high-profile examples.

That was dox'ing? I always equated "dox'ing" for intent to harm via anonymous methods.

They were already wearing masks at that point anyway. They've been wearing masks for a long while.

I know that you and Gospel are making the Ironic point that protestors and Don Lemon are being doxxed right now. Howeer, the big deal to me is that Don Lemon and Protestors are private citizens. They have the right to wear polka dotted togos with a mask for all I care. ICE officers work for us. They are employees of the government. They wear uniforms and are authorized to kill people under certain circumstances.

 

[ZiprHead]

ICE agents wear masks to prevent agents being “doxed” and attacked by lunatics.

There is no record of any ICE agent being attacked while off duty for being an ICE agent. So your rhetoric is bull.

 

[TSwizzle]

They are being doxed because they are acting like entitled assholes who have no accountability.

lol, sounds exactly like unhinged antifa types that riot and destroy property and people’s businesses.

 

[thebeave]

ICE tried to detain a friend last Thursday. She was on her way to work. They decided to run a little check point in an area where there are a lot of migrant farm workers. She is a citizen on her way to an academic job of the science type.

She produced a Real ID driver license. Not enough, could be fake. Birth certificate produced. That was suspicious because why would she have it if she were a citizen. Likely also fake then. He was trying to remove her from the vehicle to detain her until she could prove that the documents weren’t fake. A sheriff deputy that went to high school with her stepped in and vouched for her. ICE said “we’ll get you next time bitch” as she drove off.

You GOP apologists are just scum.

I’ll take “Things That Never Happened “ for $500, Alex.

?? This type of thing of happening all over the country?

Not hardly.

Why do you think that they wear masks? You think that they are sensitive and don't want to spread their germs to people or something??

ICE agents wear masks to prevent agents being “doxed” and attacked by lunatics.

Why do you think the unhinged “protesters” wear masks when they are rioting?

They are being doxed because they are acting like entitled assholes who have no accountability. Under Obama, ICE agents didn't need masks. Obama kicked out more undocumented people than Trump. But ICE wasn't hated then as they are now. Why? What's the difference. The difference starts at the top. Obama wanted ICE to focus on "felons, not families". Obama focused on prioritizing criminals, which softened public perception. Obama wanted ICE to be run more similar to routine law enforcement agency conducting targeted raids. He wanted them operated as matter of fact, follow local rules, have embedded reporters, be nice, work with the local police, don't be assholes.

The Trump administration has done the opposite. They are targeting brown people demanding papers. They are using tricks (baiting children, using corrosion, intimidation). Trump wants ICE to use aggressive tactics to intimidate, hoping some will "self-deport". Trump sends more ICE into democratic cities than republican cities in order to punish people that didn't vote for him.

Under Obama, ICE operated with less public scrutiny, less polarizing rhetoric, and a narrower enforcement focus. Under Trump, ICE has become a hyper-political goon squad.

Good post. Obama (aka the "deporter-in-chief") rarely gets mentioned in all this and I think its worthwhile to examine what he did (and didn't do). While I believe your points to be mostly spot on, there are other factors I can see contributing to the disparity between Obama and Trump's ICE. Namely, it is people on the left who are most vocal and active in their distaste for ICE (obviously). And Obama was largely liked and respected by the left, while Trump of course, is despised. So, one would expect much more protest activity during Trump's term than Obama's, and the mainstream media would be more critical of Trump as well. Also, it was a different time back then, regarding social media. Between 2009 and 2016, video recording and posting was not nearly as ubiquitous as it is now. And its the videos that are causing the biggest stir. And of course, there wasn't AI video back then like there is now, which can deceive and exacerabate what is really going on.

Snopes has some good articles regarding Obama's administration on ICE. There is a lot of misinformation that is corrected, but it was certainly not all sunshine and unicorns.

Obama's immigration policies: 9 claims we've unpacked

 

[Gospel]

They are being doxed because they are acting like entitled assholes who have no accountability.

Can someone please provide evidence there was any actual "dox'ing". I'm not exactly going to take the Trump Admin's word for it.

That recent protest at the church, where Don Lemon was arrested, is one of the more high-profile examples.

That was dox'ing? I always equated "dox'ing" for intent to harm via anonymous methods.

They were already wearing masks at that point anyway. They've been wearing masks for a long while.

I think you're right for questioning that. I don’t believe it actually meets the definition of doxxing. They weren’t even charged with anything related to doxxing anyway.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

They are being doxed because they are acting like entitled assholes who have no accountability.

Can someone please provide evidence there was any actual "dox'ing". I'm not exactly going to take the Trump Admin's word for it.

That recent protest at the church, where Don Lemon was arrested, is one of the more high-profile examples.

That was dox'ing? I always equated "dox'ing" for intent to harm via anonymous methods.

They were already wearing masks at that point anyway. They've been wearing masks for a long while.

I know that you and Gospel are making the Ironic point that protestors and Don Lemon are being doxxed right now. Howeer, the big deal to me is that Don Lemon and Protestors are private citizens. They have the right to wear polka dotted togos with a mask for all I care. ICE officers work for us. They are employees of the government. They wear uniforms and are authorized to kill people under certain circumstances.

Actually my point wasn't a point. The Trump Admin claimed that ICE agents were being dox'ed and you provided an excuse for it happening.

My question wasn't about the legitimacy of it happening, but whether it was happening at all. ICE Agents have been wearing masks almost the entire time (this link dates it back to March/April 2025) during Stephan Miller's wet dream. As far as I can tell, there has been one incident of people allegedly following an ICE agent to their home in California. That was well after the masks came out.

 

[Jarhyn]

They are being doxed because they are acting like entitled assholes who have no accountability.

lol, sounds exactly like unhinged antifa types that riot and destroy property and people’s businesses.

Being a private citizen does not obligate someone to "accountability" measures.

Being a federal agent on federal business obligates government accountability rules.

Obligations of accountability are a direct function of whether someone is collectively deputized to some manner of organization to undertake some action.