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Is the Jungle Book racist? Well, some critics apparently believe what the animated classic really was telling us is that the King Louie the ape represented an African American who is singing “I want to be like you”… with the “you” in this case referring to Caucasian whites as represented by the human character Mowgli.
 
It was based off a Kipling book. Of course it's racist!
 
So... A red ape from Borneo living in India is a black man in America, and the brown boy in India is a white man in America.
This is the message being sent by clever little subtleties, such as setting the big musical number in an abandoned but pornographic-image-free temple ruin like Khajuraho, which is like New York, and having him voiced by a Sicilian-American Vegas singer....
 
Potoooooooo said:
Is the Jungle Book racist? Well, some critics apparently believe what the animated classic really was telling us is that the King Louie the ape represented an African American who is singing “I want to be like you”… with the “you” in this case referring to Caucasian whites as represented by the human character Mowgli.
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I don't get it

I mean it has been a looong time since I saw The Jungle Book
But wasn't it pretty clear that the King just wanted to be Human? (Hence the Lyrics)
Was Louis some kind of "African American" stereotype or something? BecauseI don't really remember anything that would identify him as being an African American (Like say the Crows from Dumbo who were rather blatant)
And Mowgli was, as Keith pointed out, an Indian boy and not white at all
So how does that fit in at all?

it only seems it's rascist if you ignore pretty much everything about the movie and change the bits that don't fit
 
I'm sure thousands of children who grew up with The Jungle Book are now total racists. We must ban the Jungle Book!
 
And?

Jungle Book is racist
Dumbo is racist
Song of the South (partly filmed on my grandparents' land in Putnam Co. GA btw) is racist.

And?

We have a past and a present marred by racism and trying to hide it won't get rid of it.
 
I don't like the way that the Thor movies portrayed the Frost Giants and Dark Elves as generically evil groups of people. They are both rich and dynamic societies comprised of individuals with their own thoughts and feelings, not just cardboard cutouts sith a single motivation for the entire race.
 
This is how I look at it.

You look at a piece of culture in the context of place and time. You then discuss it. You don't censor it. Censoring it leads to things like not one but two threads in the Politics Forum both about being surprised that racism is in the world.

I love Disney's Jungle Book. Didn't think a bit about racism when I went to see it as a child, so I wasn't scarred for life or anything like that. The best thing about Dumbo is the song "When I See and Elephant Fly" and as a child I knew that was racist but I didn't care because I liked it too much to care. And who hasn't sung "Zip A Dee Do Da" at least once in life?

Racism is complicated and worthy of much study and dedication to limiting and eradicating it,

But people

PUH-LEASE

Get over yourselves!
 
is there anything these days that's not considered racist? My cousin told me about an angry black woman who worked in his office who ranted about the fact that all of the Keebler cookie elves were white. Seriously! She tried to get everyone to boycott Keebler cookies.
 
thebeave said:
is there anything these days that's not considered racist? My cousin told me about an angry black woman who worked in his office who ranted about the fact that all of the Keebler cookie elves were white. Seriously! She tried to get everyone to boycott Keebler cookies.
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So, what, she'd rather a token black elf than no blelfs at all? Everyone would complain that he got the job to fill a quota, not out of any real merit. He'd be putting the blelf civil rights movement back at least forty batches.
 
thebeave said:
is there anything these days that's not considered racist? My cousin told me about an angry black woman who worked in his office who ranted about the fact that all of the Keebler cookie elves were white. Seriously! She tried to get everyone to boycott Keebler cookies.
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I had an angry white man tell me to my face he was going to castrate a black student in my class if he didn't stay away from his daughter.

What's your point?

We should take crazy people as the norm?
 
AthenaAwakened said:
thebeave said:
is there anything these days that's not considered racist? My cousin told me about an angry black woman who worked in his office who ranted about the fact that all of the Keebler cookie elves were white. Seriously! She tried to get everyone to boycott Keebler cookies.
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I had an angry white man tell me to my face he was going to castrate a black student in my class if he didn't stay away from his daughter.

What's your point?

We should take crazy people as the norm?
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Your anecdote sounds like a case of real racism, although its not totally clear that the angry white guy didn't like the black student not because he was black, but maybe because he was a jerk, asshole, bad-boy, etc. Fathers tend to get a little overprotective of their daughters, and having been young men themselves at one time, know what's on their mind. Did he say something that referenced the students race? If I was a father of a daughter, I'd not want her to date a black guy with the character of Chris Brown or Kanye West, but a guy with the character of say, Will Smith would be fine. Its not always about their race!

My Keebler cookie example is similar to the OP, in that someone with an overactive imagination is claiming racism in a fictional setting. My point was just to give another example of this, not to show that crazy people (like the people who claim the Jungle Book is racist) should be taken as the norm. Fortunately, they are not.
 
thebeave said:
AthenaAwakened said:
thebeave said:
is there anything these days that's not considered racist? My cousin told me about an angry black woman who worked in his office who ranted about the fact that all of the Keebler cookie elves were white. Seriously! She tried to get everyone to boycott Keebler cookies.
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I had an angry white man tell me to my face he was going to castrate a black student in my class if he didn't stay away from his daughter.

What's your point?

We should take crazy people as the norm?
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Your anecdote sounds like a case of real racism, although its not totally clear that the angry white guy didn't like the black student not because he was black, but maybe because he was a jerk, asshole, bad-boy, etc. Fathers tend to get a little overprotective of their daughters, and having been young men themselves at one time, know what's on their mind. Did he say something that referenced the students race? If I was a father of a daughter, I'd not want her to date a black guy with the character of Chris Brown or Kanye West, but a guy with the character of say, Will Smith would be fine. Its not always about their race!

My Keebler cookie example is similar to the OP, in that someone with an overactive imagination is claiming racism in a fictional setting. My point was just to give another example of this, not to show that crazy people (like the people who claim the Jungle Book is racist) should be taken as the norm. Fortunately, they are not.
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Not every confrontation is about race. But southern white men don't generally threaten to "cut his dick off and feed it to him," when talking about a white boy, at least not in a public school classroom with the door open.

And since I had known the man in question for then over twenty five years, gone to school with his younger brother, had been called a "nigger wench" and almost gang raped by his older brother (and his friends) when I was twelve, I thought I might, might mind you, know where his head was at, but as you say I could have read this man all wrong. not like I knew him and his family and had lived in the south all my life

No wait....
 
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