Just imagine if this was an Iranian drone strike on a Western nation

[Jimmy Higgins]

Why?


Either carefully or wait until it is not under enemy control or get a neutral party.

The neutral third party will still only see the show that's presented to them.

Consider the Jenin "massacre"--Israel was fine with a third party investigation so long as it was people competent to investigate the sort of things terrorists do. The Palestinians wanted human rights types that would fall for the story. In the end it never happened because the story of the supposed massacre didn't hold up, even without an investigation the world figured out Israel's depiction of the events was basically correct.

Just so I'm clear on things, the Palestinians in Israel have equivalent rates of poverty as Israelis have, correct?

 

[Derec]

Your claim is handwaved bs. Your example about the Jenin massacre

There was no "Jenin massacre". There was a battle in Jenin in 2002 (height of 2nd Intifada when Palestinians ramped up terrorist attacks against Israeli civilians btw) between IDF and assorted Palestinian terrorist groups, but no massacre.

 

[laughing dog]

Your claim is handwaved bs. Your example about the Jenin massacre

There was no "Jenin massacre". There was a battle in Jenin in 2002 (height of 2nd Intifada when Palestinians ramped up terrorist attacks against Israeli civilians btw) between IDF and assorted Palestinian terrorist groups, but no massacre.

I responded to another kneejerk gov’t of Israel apologist like yourself using his terms. If you have a problem, talk to LP.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

You're still ignoring the competence issue.

Competence is in the eye of the beholder.

Remember that the issue got dropped because the Palestinian lies fell apart, the world saw Israel's claims about what happened were basically correct and thus no investigation was needed.

You realize you are rebutting yourself. If the lies were that easy to spot, a neutral investigation would have spotted them. And that assumes your apologia is accurate.

At the time that wasn't known.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Why?


Either carefully or wait until it is not under enemy control or get a neutral party.

The neutral third party will still only see the show that's presented to them.

Consider the Jenin "massacre"--Israel was fine with a third party investigation so long as it was people competent to investigate the sort of things terrorists do. The Palestinians wanted human rights types that would fall for the story. In the end it never happened because the story of the supposed massacre didn't hold up, even without an investigation the world figured out Israel's depiction of the events was basically correct.

Just so I'm clear on things, the Palestinians in Israel have equivalent rates of poverty as Israelis have, correct?

1) What's the relevance?

2) The Palestinians have a high rate of poverty because that's what their government (the Palestinian Authority) wants. If they were doing well (as they were before the Second Intifada) they wouldn't be so easy to manipulate into attacking Israel. Their per-capita income is 1/3 of what it was before they chose the path of war.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Your claim is handwaved bs. Your example about the Jenin massacre

There was no "Jenin massacre". There was a battle in Jenin in 2002 (height of 2nd Intifada when Palestinians ramped up terrorist attacks against Israeli civilians btw) between IDF and assorted Palestinian terrorist groups, but no massacre.

I responded to another kneejerk gov’t of Israel apologist like yourself using his terms. If you have a problem, talk to LP.

Note that I was pointing out the massacre didn't exist.