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Mark Meadows is being investigated for possible voter fraud!

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If ever there was a hypocrite, it just may be that his name is Mark Meadows.

https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow...ew-investigation-voter-registration-rcna20574

Before and after Election Day 2020, former White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows talked a lot about voting irregularities. Like so many members of Donald Trump’s team, the Republican was heavily invested in the demonstrably false idea that there was widespread fraud.

“Do you realize how inaccurate the voter rolls are, with people just moving around?” Meadows asked in August 2020? He later complained in his memoir about some people casting ballots despite not being “an actual resident of the state they were voting in.”


It was against this backdrop that the public recently learned that Meadows himself appears to have cast a ballot from North Carolina, despite having moved away from the state and no longer being an actual state resident. As The Associated Press reported, state investigators have begun examining the controversy.
 
It's difficult to guess why Meadows would choose to cheat so blatantly. Even a Republican of average intelligence would understand that the risk/reward on this crime was very bad. Did he just think that as one of the 1% and a personal friend of Trump and Putin that laws didn't apply to him? Most likely, I'll guess, is that he was too stupid to even give the matter thought. Trump made a point of surrounding himself with people even stupider than himself, so even top jobs like Chief of Staff were filled with morons.

But even if he has a valid "too stupid to know the law" defense, I still think he should be sent to prison.

Crystal Mason wasn't sure she was even allowed to vote. She had successfully served a long prison term (being black the major offense) and thought she qualified to vote under a new law. The poll worker wasn't sure either and suggested she submit a provisional ballot. Bang! She was convicted of voter fraud and sentenced to five years in a Texas prison.

Maybe Ms. Mason was lucky to be convicted in Texas instead of Tennessee. In similar circumstances, Pamela Moses — also a black woman — was convicted of voter fraud just for attempting to register in Tennessee. She was sentenced to six years and a day.

Note that both these women were obviously innocent of any intentional fraud.

If there's justice, Mark Meadows will serve six years in jail to show that white men get the same treatment as black women. But will he?

What's the over/under on the Las Vegas line of what jail term Meadows serves? If it's is as high as 1 Day I'm definitely betting on the Under.
 
He is either stupid or he thinks he is above the law. Those laws are for the little people.

I also read about Pamela Moses, although happily I'ver read that the sentence has been or will be over turned. Ms. Moses said that she has been made an example, and what happened to her will scare a lot of Black people from voting. This is exactly what the Republicans are trying to do. They are trying to scare people who feel timid or insecure or who have been victims of racism, from voting. These people are mostly Democrats.
 
Pamela Moses was charged with attempting to register in 2020, while Crystal Mason was charged for her 2016 provisional ballot, over five years ago. Am I correct that Mason is still out on bail, pending appeals? :confused2: Justice delayed is justice denied.

The D.A. is quick to explain that Moses' long sentence is her own fault. She'd have been given probation if she pled Guilty, but she pled Not Guilty and asked for a jury trial. By callously insisting on her Sixth Amendment right she was wasting taxpayer money and "deserved" a long prison term.

The "justice" system in the U.S. is atrocious. It is very common for innocent people to plead guilty: Plead Guilty and be released "for time served." Plead Not Guilty and remain in jail awaiting trial. And obviously this system gives DAs great flexibility to punish without consent of jury or even judge.

Will Meadows even need to appear before a judge? Or, as one of America's "elite" will any charges disappear after a phone call?
 
He is either stupid or he thinks he is above the law. Those laws are for the little people.

Actually, he thinks the little people are stupid.

Meadows, McCarthy, McConnell, and other "leaders" of the GOP know - beyond the shadow of a doubt - that (aside from this transgression) there was no "widespread voter fraud" in the 2020 election. They have the receipts. They have talked to Republican Secretaries of State and County Recorders and other election officials at the state level (where the magic happens) and have been told in no uncertain terms that there were no shenanigans.

Here in Arizona, our current Trump-supporting County Recorder wrote a scathing open letter to his fellow party members laying out - with references - why the election was on the up and up:

Seriously

I don't doubt that in every single swing state the national GOP reached out to the state GOP and said "do we have anything...anything at all that we can work with here?" and were told "actually, no." Yet rather than be honest and clearly convey this simple fact, they went on the friendly cable news networks and intoned ominously about "voting irregularities" and set about proposing "election security" legislation. Because something H.L. Mencken said that almost no one wearing a red hat ever heard...underestimating the intelligence and what not.

The leaders of the party think their base is stupid, and they're being proven depressingly right over and over again.
 
OOOOooooh! It's not just Markie, his wife is a bad girl too! :eek:

Three months after this interview, on Oct. 26, Mark Meadows’s wife, Debra, appeared at the Macon County community building in Franklin, N.C., and filled out a one-stop voter application to cast an early ballot in the 2020 presidential election. She also dropped off an absentee ballot that she had requested for her husband, then the White House chief of staff, an election board official said.


On her one-stop application, provided this week by the North Carolina Board of Elections to The Fact Checker, Debra Meadows certified that she had resided at a 14-by-62-foot mountaintop mobile home for at least 30 days — even though she did not live there. At the top of the form is a notice that “fraudulently or falsely completing this form” is a Class I felony.
This form is the latest in a string of revelations concerning the former chief of staff — who echoed President Donald Trump’s false claims of election fraud in 2020 — and his wife. The New Yorker first reportedthat Mark and Debra Meadows submitted voter registration forms that listed as their home a mobile home with a rusted metal roof that sold for $105,000 in 2021, even though they had never lived there. North Carolina officials announced last week that Mark Meadows is under investigation for potential voter fraud.
The Fact Checker’s reporting shows that in 2020 Debra Meadows signed at least two forms — a voter registration form and the one-stop application — that warned of legal consequences if falsely completed and signed.

I'm shocked. Shocked, I tell you. 😯
 
Speaking of Mark Meadows, a recent news story shows that he was sent several messages by Ginny Thomas (wife of Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas), some on January 6, with Thomas clearly supporting (and perhaps helping to plan) the insurrection! This is another of the type of bizarre episode we see so often lately: episodes that would be edited out of a thriller novel as too unrealistic. Is Thomas' treason covered in another thread?

Ginny Thomas's activities as a wacko right-winger and criminal insurrectionist would force Thomas to resign from the Court if U.S. politics still functioned rationally.

How did Thomas end up hitched to such a crazed enemy of America and its democracy? Was he on the rebound and feeling low self-esteem after Anita Hill rejected his advances?
 
She's a woman that would actually want to marry Clarence Thomas. She's fucked up in the head already.
 
She's a woman that would actually want to marry Clarence Thomas. She's fucked up in the head already.
They seem perfectly suited for each other, don't ya think? After reading several articles about how she tried so hard to interfere in the 2020 election, even bringing her "King of kings" into it, and calling the Democrats and Biden evil, I think they were made for each other.

There are an awful lot of Republican Qs who need to be prosecuted, and/or evaluated for mental incompetence.
 
No Ginni Thomas thread? Then I'll show here two quotes from The Atlantic's "Third Rail" newsletter:

Atlantic newsletter said:
And when I say she referenced wild conspiracy theories, I mean wild. She texted a fringe theory (popular in QAnon circles) that the Trump administration had watermarked ballots to trace election fraud, she forwarded a video by a known conspiracy theorist who had claimed that the Sandy Hook school shooting was a “false flag” operation, and she quoted this, from right-wing websites:
Ginni Thomas said:
Biden crime family & ballot fraud co-conspirators (elected officials, bureaucrats, social media censorship mongers, fake stream media reporters, etc) are being arrested & detained for ballot fraud right now & over coming days, & will be living in barges off GITMO to face military tribunals for sedition.
. . .
But the Ginni Thomas texts were not the most alarming aspect of Woodward and Costa’s story. There was a text in the chain that disturbed me more than anything Ginni Thomas wrote. It came from Meadows, and here’s what it said:
Mark Meadows said:
This is a fight of good versus evil . . . Evil always looks like the victor until the King of Kings triumphs. Do not grow weary in well doing. The fight continues. I have staked my career on it. Well at least my time in DC on it.

The wife of a Supreme Court Justice, and a one-time White House Chief of Staff.
Horrifying!
 
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