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http://www.kare11.com/life/mpls-city-council-votes-to-ban-plastic-bags/93702252

With a vote of 7-6, the Minneapolis City Council moved to ban plastic bags at retail stores with a proposed ordinance that will go into effect April 22, 2017.

Under the proposal, businesses can distribute paper, compostable or reusable bags, which will come at a 5-cent charge.
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Good. I wish Miami would do the same.

(and the 5 cent charge for the paper bags would ensure I better remembered to bring my cloth bags in :lol: )
 
We have a similar law here, requiring supermarkets to charge 15c per 'reusable' plastic bag.

The use of fabric bags went from approximately fuck-all to significantly more than fuck-all. Don't quote me on those figures, though.
 
My city has this ban. So if I plan on buying more than a few items, I go a neighboring city to shop and get lots of plastic bags. Free.
 
Derec said:
Now that's something to protest about!
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Trausti said:
My city has this ban. So if I plan on buying more than a few items, I go a neighboring city to shop and get lots of plastic bags. Free.
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There you go Derec, someone is doing just that!

Trausti is protesting the ban on petroleum-based bags by using more petroleum to drive out of his way just so he can get more petroleum-based bags.
 
Just remember to wash your cloth bags occasionally. And get the ones that don't rip when you put boxes in them. Christ, what's the point of a bag that is weaker than a cardboard cracker box?
 
I'm not opposed to such regulations, although I think a single paper bag should be allowed for free.

One negative effect of plastic bag bans is the sizable increase in use of clear plastic bags from the produce section. Fewer people are willing to put unwrapped produce or packaged raw meat in their reusable cloth bags without first putting them into those produce bags. This is so common that many stores have added those plastic bags rolls to their meat departments. I know that I now always do this with packaged meat, and every package needs its own produce bag, so they can scan it. I'm sure there are times where the additional number of those bags a person uses is greater than the number of plastic grocery bags they would have otherwise used. But those produce bags have less plastic in them, so its still a net gain.
 
I'm assuming the use of bags in my locality is worked into the price of the products, because at my grocery stores you get a 5 cent CREDIT per bag that you bring with you (and use). So each apple gets it's own bag... seriously, they are totally ok with that. I buy like 40 items and use 20 bags for $1.00 off.
 
ronburgundy said:
I'm not opposed to such regulations, although I think a single paper bag should be allowed for free.

One negative effect of plastic bag bans is the sizable increase in use of clear plastic bags from the produce section. Fewer people are willing to put unwrapped produce or packaged raw meat in their reusable cloth bags without first putting them into those produce bags. This is so common that many stores have added those plastic bags rolls to their meat departments. I know that I now always do this with packaged meat, and every package needs its own produce bag, so they can scan it. I'm sure there are times where the additional number of those bags a person uses is greater than the number of plastic grocery bags they would have otherwise used. But those produce bags have less plastic in them, so its still a net gain.
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I think those bags are still allowed. They are usually made out of corn.
 
Nice Squirrel said:
ronburgundy said:
I'm not opposed to such regulations, although I think a single paper bag should be allowed for free.

One negative effect of plastic bag bans is the sizable increase in use of clear plastic bags from the produce section. Fewer people are willing to put unwrapped produce or packaged raw meat in their reusable cloth bags without first putting them into those produce bags. This is so common that many stores have added those plastic bags rolls to their meat departments. I know that I now always do this with packaged meat, and every package needs its own produce bag, so they can scan it. I'm sure there are times where the additional number of those bags a person uses is greater than the number of plastic grocery bags they would have otherwise used. But those produce bags have less plastic in them, so its still a net gain.
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I think those bags are still allowed. They are usually made out of corn.
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Yeah, everywhere I have been with a ban still allows those produce bags. A google search brought up major wholesalers selling "plastic" produce bags. I didn't see any indicating "corn" or other material, thus if they exist are likely much less common than the plastic ones.

By "negative effect" I just meant use of those bags increases as a direct result of banning the grocery bags, and thus undercuts some of the objectives (but still a net reduction in plastic used and landfill mass).
 
ronburgundy said:
Nice Squirrel said:
I think those bags are still allowed. They are usually made out of corn.
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Yeah, everywhere I have been with a ban still allows those produce bags. A google search brought up major wholesalers selling "plastic" produce bags. I didn't see any indicating "corn" or other material, thus if they exist are likely much less common than the plastic ones..
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Most likely, everything is made of corn here. Even the scenery.

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How many will die on the green altar here?

(The problem is meat. You don't realize a package of meat leaked a bit, next time around you use that bag for produce. Meat should be packed in disposable bags, not reusable ones.)
 
I have mixed feelings about this. I actually reuse my plastic bags to hold the bread that I bake, so I can freeze it. Now I will have to buy bags! (if my suburb follows suit, of course)
 
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