Why at a nation? It's an artificial construct too. Why is your fate in life determined simply because of which side of a river you are born?
You are merely saying the richer nations should be able to control and exploit the poorer nations, the current system.
Nation is an artificial construct, but nations act in their interests not for fairness or justice.
You are merely saying the richer nations should be able to control and exploit the poorer nations, the current system.
Nation is an artificial construct, but nations act in their interests not for fairness or justice.
While we do have a different definition of exploit, the trade exchange is what will bring these countries that are further behind now into alignment with everybody else. I guess poverty is okay as long as it's someone that doesn't look like you.
You are merely saying the richer nations should be able to control and exploit the poorer nations, the current system.
Nation is an artificial construct, but nations act in their interests not for fairness or justice.
While we do have a different definition of exploit, the trade exchange is what will bring these countries that are further behind now into alignment with everybody else. I guess poverty is okay as long as it's someone that doesn't look like you.
While we do have a different definition of exploit, the trade exchange is what will bring these countries that are further behind now into alignment with everybody else. I guess poverty is okay as long as it's someone that doesn't look like you.
There are many ways to climb out of poverty.
The exploiter always claims their way is the best.
Nations should be able to determine how to lift their own people from poverty.
This is not a decision that should be given to some US capitalists looking after their own interests.
There are many ways to climb out of poverty.
The exploiter always claims their way is the best.
Nations should be able to determine how to lift their own people from poverty.
This is not a decision that should be given to some US capitalists looking after their own interests.
But these countries haven't climbed out of poverty internally. And if a company offers a job that a person in that country wants, then it is improving that person's life.
But these countries haven't climbed out of poverty internally. And if a company offers a job that a person in that country wants, then it is improving that person's life.
The ones that tried to climb out internally were attacked.
The US does not help nations that want to help their people climb from poverty. It tries to destroy their efforts in any way possible, up to assassination and military coup.
The ones that tried to climb out internally were attacked.
The US does not help nations that want to help their people climb from poverty. It tries to destroy their efforts in any way possible, up to assassination and military coup.
Thanks for the good laugh. China for example wasn't invaded and it's pulling itself out of poverty by recognizing trade is the answer.
But dismal gave a good example of Cuba.
Thanks for the good laugh. China for example wasn't invaded and it's pulling itself out of poverty by recognizing trade is the answer.
But dismal gave a good example of Cuba.
China completely bought into the US system. It opened up it's population to be freely exploited.
What China shows is that there is no conflict with modern capitalism and totalitarian government.
Cuba was attacked vigorously from day one. Terrorism and a blockade.
China completely bought into the US system. It opened up it's population to be freely exploited.
What China shows is that there is no conflict with modern capitalism and totalitarian government.
Cuba was attacked vigorously from day one. Terrorism and a blockade.
We're talking about how important trade is and then you just said that it was a blockade, or the stoppage of trade that keeps Cuba poor. The irony. And what has kept Cuba and Venezuela poor wasn't the US policies.
The ones that tried to climb out internally were attacked.
The US does not help nations that want to help their people climb from poverty. It tries to destroy their efforts in any way possible, up to assassination and military coup.
Thanks for the good laugh. China for example wasn't invaded and it's pulling itself out of poverty by recognizing trade is the answer.
But dismal gave a good example of Cuba.
We're talking about how important trade is and then you just said that it was a blockade, or the stoppage of trade that keeps Cuba poor. The irony. And what has kept Cuba and Venezuela poor wasn't the US policies.
There is nothing wrong with fair and really free trade between nations.
Rich nations should freely trade with poor nations to create customers. That is rational.
They should not use trade as a weapon to exploit and control. The current system that has existed for centuries.
Thanks for the good laugh. China for example wasn't invaded and it's pulling itself out of poverty by recognizing trade is the answer.
But dismal gave a good example of Cuba.
Untermensche longs for the good old days before trade when China's GDP per capita was humming along at $200 per year and mass starvations were the norm. But, hey at least people weren't being exploited. Unless you count the government forcing you to work for $20 per month "exploitation" or something instead of "freedom". Of course, as an anarchist, Unter knows the government controlling every aspect of the economy and/or starving you is freedom.
There is nothing wrong with fair and really free trade between nations.
Rich nations should freely trade with poor nations to create customers. That is rational.
They should not use trade as a weapon to exploit and control. The current system that has existed for centuries.
Cuba had the rest of world to trade with. Just because they couldn't trade with the US is what kept them in poverty?
The embargo was reinforced in October 1992 by the Cuban Democracy Act (the "Torricelli Law") and in 1996 by the Cuban Liberty and Democracy Solidarity Act (known as the Helms–Burton Act) which penalizes foreign companies that do business in Cuba by preventing them from doing business in the U.S. Justification provided for these restrictions was that these companies were trafficking in stolen U.S. properties, and should, thus, be excluded from the United States.
Cuba had the rest of world to trade with. Just because they couldn't trade with the US is what kept them in poverty?
The embargo was reinforced in October 1992 by the Cuban Democracy Act (the "Torricelli Law") and in 1996 by the Cuban Liberty and Democracy Solidarity Act (known as the Helms–Burton Act) which penalizes foreign companies that do business in Cuba by preventing them from doing business in the U.S. Justification provided for these restrictions was that these companies were trafficking in stolen U.S. properties, and should, thus, be excluded from the United States.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_embargo_against_Cuba
There is nothing wrong with fair and really free trade between nations.
Rich nations should freely trade with poor nations to create customers. That is rational.
They should not use trade as a weapon to exploit and control. The current system that has existed for centuries.
Cuba had the rest of world to trade with. Just because they couldn't trade with the US is what kept them in poverty?
The embargo was reinforced in October 1992 by the Cuban Democracy Act (the "Torricelli Law") and in 1996 by the Cuban Liberty and Democracy Solidarity Act (known as the Helms–Burton Act) which penalizes foreign companies that do business in Cuba by preventing them from doing business in the U.S. Justification provided for these restrictions was that these companies were trafficking in stolen U.S. properties, and should, thus, be excluded from the United States.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_embargo_against_Cuba
Though when the world used anti-trade measures toward South Africa to end apartheid it was seen as a good thing. Though I do agree with you that they should end the embargo with Cuba, that why they don't have something to blame when their economic systems fails.
The embargo was reinforced in October 1992 by the Cuban Democracy Act (the "Torricelli Law") and in 1996 by the Cuban Liberty and Democracy Solidarity Act (known as the Helms–Burton Act) which penalizes foreign companies that do business in Cuba by preventing them from doing business in the U.S. Justification provided for these restrictions was that these companies were trafficking in stolen U.S. properties, and should, thus, be excluded from the United States.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_embargo_against_Cuba
Though when the world used anti-trade measures toward South Africa to end apartheid it was seen as a good thing. Though I do agree with you that they should end the embargo with Cuba, that why they don't have something to blame when their economic systems fails.
The embargo was reinforced in October 1992 by the Cuban Democracy Act (the "Torricelli Law") and in 1996 by the Cuban Liberty and Democracy Solidarity Act (known as the Helms–Burton Act) which penalizes foreign companies that do business in Cuba by preventing them from doing business in the U.S. Justification provided for these restrictions was that these companies were trafficking in stolen U.S. properties, and should, thus, be excluded from the United States.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_embargo_against_Cuba
Though when the world used anti-trade measures toward South Africa to end apartheid it was seen as a good thing. Though I do agree with you that they should end the embargo with Cuba, that why they don't have something to blame when their economic systems fails.
If the US were to freely trade, meaning allow Cuba to determine what foreign capital should be able to do in Cuba, then things would be fine.
If the US demands the right to exploit and determine how progress will occur then things will not be good for many Cubans.
While we do have a different definition of exploit, the trade exchange is what will bring these countries that are further behind now into alignment with everybody else. I guess poverty is okay as long as it's someone that doesn't look like you.
There are many ways to climb out of poverty.
The exploiter always claims their way is the best.
Nations should be able to determine how to lift their own people from poverty.
This is not a decision that should be given to some US capitalists looking after their own interests.
But these countries haven't climbed out of poverty internally. And if a company offers a job that a person in that country wants, then it is improving that person's life.
The ones that tried to climb out internally were attacked.
The US does not help nations that want to help their people climb from poverty. It tries to destroy their efforts in any way possible, up to assassination and military coup.
