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At least some don't get real vacations. So if a vacation may not be a vacation, , when do we KNOW they are not on the job ? For example, we know they are not working when playing golf and fund-raising...right?
First off, get back here with those goal posts!
Second, no we don't know that. For example, Lyndon Johnson famously secured votes for the Civil Rights Act while golfing.
How about these stunning numbers:http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...vacations-George-W-Bush-point-presidency.html
Obama has hit the links 186 times since taking office, according to Knoller's records. Bush only played 24 rounds of golf throughout his entire presidency.
Meanwhile, President Obama has went golfing three times this week already while on holiday in Massachusetts even as the U.S. launched airstrikes on Islamic extremists in Iraq and contemplated a humanitarian rescue of Iraqis stranded on a mountain.
Bush attended far fewer political fundraisers that Obama while living at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, as well.
In announcing Obama's 400th fundraiser as president on twitter Monday, Knoller said Bush had headlined 224 cash-gathering events at the same point in time.
We can also look at some of the other stunning numbers presented at that link:
Obama has taken 20 vacations compared to George W. Bush's 58
As of yesterday, Obama had taken a total of 129 full or partial vacation days compared to Bush's 381.
And those are just the days and times Bush visited his Prairie Chapel ranch in Texas. He also vacationed at his family's property in Kennebunkport, Maine, seven times for a total of 26 days
Which was kind of the point before those goal posts went flying by.
My gosh, folks have noticed Obama's inordinate golf and fund-raiser "fiddling" - is it any wonder that anytime a crisis pops up that it interrupts either his golf game or fund-raiser?
Inordinate? Is it inordinate when compared to the 400 rounds of golf Bill Clinton played during his presidency? How about the nearly 900 rounds that Eisenhower played during his term? Or the 1000 rounds Woodrow Wilson played as president?
Do you really want to argue over a figure of speech?
No, I want to argue with the hyper-partisan sentiment that lies beneath it.
My sentiment not withstanding, many have noted that in the last 8 or 9 months that Obama seems routinely unprepared, often surprised, and oddly detached in his job (when not golfing and fund-raising); they have also noticed that other than when he gets excited over his "the bear is loose" opportunities to golf or pitch for money (he did his 400th the other day) he seems listless and disinterested.
Oh my, Obama must be a terrible president! So terrible that when he is in his second term, and no longer running for any political office, he is still doing fund raisers, because people still admire him as president. Unlike W, who was so toxic mid-way through his second term that no one in his own party would touch him with a 10 foot pole.
For example, as seen in the Bergdahl controversy,
You are still harping on that shit? Look, Obama brought a POW home. The same POW that the right was calling for him to bring home, until he actually did it. Then suddenly it was a controversy. Damned if you do, damned if you don't sums that up rather nicely.
the VA Scandal,
You mean he one that has been brewing for decades? Must be all Obama's fault. Might as well go ahead and blame him for the Veterans Bureau scandals during the 1920's that led to being shuttered after only 9 years, and then replaced with the VA. He is probably also to blame for the VA scandals in the mid 1940's, as well as the VA scandal in 1955, or the VA scandals of the early and mid 1970's, or that plagued Ronald Reagan in the 1980's. We have already laid the VA scandals from the 1990's at his feet, so I don't need to go there.
the Ukraine crisis, and the Iraq invasion by ISIS... he was surprised, then flat, and (in the last two events), unprepared - the contingency planning non-existent (of course, the same might be said regarding Obama on Libya, Egypt, Syria and Obamacare as well).
Obamacare again? And a veiled reference to Benghazi in the same sentence. You certainly are on point with all of the partisan talking points of the past several years, Max. Too bad the Affordable Care Act has proven to be a net gain for the nation's previously uninsured, as well as the under-insured, and the republicans own commission just cleared the Obama administration on Benghazi. In fact, it seems one major factor to the events at Benghazi was the Republican Congress' decision to cut back on embassy security funding around the world.
And it's not limited to the right, many have noticed his odd behavior and leadership faults. Among the "Democratic" and/or "left" members who have also noticed:
http://www.ijreview.com/2014/07/160191-chuck-todd-more-obama-disengaged-more-golf-fundraise/
"MSNBC reporter Chuck Todd called the White House “defiant” against criticisms coming from all sides that the president is too disengaged from the duties of the office. He even insinuated that President Obama purposely went golfing in a disdainful response to a New York Times article asking if he should have cut a trip to multiple fundraisers after the Malaysian plane was shot down, and the more criticism he receives, the more he’ll golf and vacation."
Chuck Fucking Todd?!?! You have to be kidding me. Compare his interview with Obama to the one he did with W, then get back with me on exactly how "democratic" and "left" that guy really is.
