Origins Of Christianity

[pood]

''Divine inspiration'' implies that God is the author. That it is not the 'work of man,' that God more or less dictates what is written by the human hand, where theists have claimed that the bible is the infallible word of God because it is Inspired.

It doesn’t imply that at all. Paul did not say he was taking dictation.

 

[steve_bank]

Mr Pearl

You are avoiding direct answers hiding behind wordy logical arguments. Obfuscation, I know some big word too but I don't use them unless there is a real need.

I prefer direct plain language.

Going back to your fist posts on Paul you argued that Paul ws not influenced by Greek philosophy and was inspired by god. Paul said he was not interspersed by men.

The problem with lengthy convoluted arguments is one can loose sight of the issue, it becomes a debate over meaning and logic rater than the original thesis.

So... if Paul was influenced with Greek philosophy, are you (plural) then claiming other authors who wrote the Gospels were following the same narrative structure"adopted" from Greek philosophy ?

In plain language we see highlighted,what should be most obvious when we simply read the commonalities of Paul and the Four Gospel! "Perhaps the gospels too are Greek philosophy" by your analysis..

Example: Paul's letters share some key historical and theological elements with the four Gospels. An external confirmation and not a Greek philosophy narrative, unless that's what you are also claiming.

Paul agrees that Jesus was the Creator of the universe, a point also emphasized in the Gospel of John, and he explicitly states in Colossians that all things were created through Christ and for Him.

Paul confirms the betrayal of Jesus by Judas Iscariot, a detail.. written in all four Gospels.

Paul's writings confirm the resurrection of Jesus on the third day after His death, a core tenet of the Gospel accounts!!

Sigh, again.

The gospel Jesus is obviously a Greek/Roman demigod. Serious blasphemy for a Jew to claim a blood relationship to god.

As to resurrection Paul is repeating hear say oral stores.

Over hear are a sizeable number of Evangelicals today who believe Trump was sent by god to save Chis tins. There are biblical sculpture interpreted to support the claim. That of course makes it true.

 

[steve_bank]

Pearl

Do you believe in the bible god(or any god), and the gospel Jesus and resurrection?

As an aunt used to say 'tell the truth and shame the devil'.

Or are you like Peter denying Jesus?

A non answer goes to credibility.

 

[pood]

A non answer goes to credibility.

Does it?

Or does whatever he believes have any relevance to what he is arguing?

 

[DBT]

''Divine inspiration'' implies that God is the author. That it is not the 'work of man,' that God more or less dictates what is written by the human hand, where theists have claimed that the bible is the infallible word of God because it is Inspired.

It doesn’t imply that at all. Paul did not say he was taking dictation.

He stated that what he taught was not the work of man.

Paul is a man. If it is Paul's work, it is the work of man.

"Not the work of man" implies that it is the work of God using Paul as a means of conveying His teaching.

 

[steve_bank]

I started the thread with Paul because he is central to Christianity and represents how it got started and evolved.

Paul converted to Christianity and of course there is a story of a miraculous supernatural event to describe it, routine mythology. The story established credibility and authority for Paul.


The gospel Jesus has a collection of unrelated sound bites and stories. No consistent system. As a Jew he was referring to Jewish prophets and law, not inventing anything.

Paul ‘took the Jewish out of Jesus’ and elaborated a ‘Jesus according to Paul’. Paul represents the pattern of Christianity. Claim authority and preach a version of Christianity.


There never was a true Christianity directly tied to an historical Jewish rabbi.

If you want follow Jesus keep kosher. If you want to eat pork follow Paul’s gentile Christianity.

It is Paul who sets the stage.

Belief in a god and inspiration from that god is the foundation of Christianity as it evolved and is still evolving.

 

[steve_bank]

A non answer goes to credibility.

Does it?

Or does whatever he believes have any relevance to what he is arguing?

Pood, Pearl, ad NHC are three peas in a pod. Endless philosophizing with no end goal.

Truth is not what Pearl appears to be looking for, he is putting on a show.

 

[bilby]

Pood, Pearl, ad NHC are three peas in a pod. Endless philosophizing with no end goal.

You can pee in your pod all you like, but this is a discussion board; It doesn't, by its very nature, have goals beyond the entertainment of its contributors.