Origins Of Christianity

[Elixir]

Despite all the moral faures of the RCC through today any public acknowledgement without equivocation of failures destroys the RCC claim of absolute moral truth and authority handed down by god.

Nah, it confirms the flawed nature of man, as asserted by the RCC. The Church has done its penance in private as demanded by the Bible, and purified its function as god’s conduit, to the greatest extent humanly possible.
The fact that The Church is capable of such introspection merely lends further authority to the utter bullshit they have successfully peddled to billions of individuals over centuries.

 

[Michael S. Pearl]

That would seem to refute your claim as to the absolute authority of Paul based in divine inspiration.

There is no such claim.

 

[steve_bank]

That would seem to refute your claim as to the absolute authority of Paul based in divine inspiration.

There is no such claim.

As has been elaborated at length Paul's claim to be of god's inspiration not human is an assertion of divine authority. The basis of all Christian variation and the internecine Christian conflict going back to the 1st century. Diffe3nces in interpretation, leading to the Council Of Nicaea. Christian violence in the empire wsa out of control and Constantine needed to end it,

That the bible is the inspired word of god is fundamental to Christianity.

I was taught that in Catholic high school religion class.

The general work around for Christians to pick and chose what to cite forom the OT and NT. I call it the Chinese menu Chrtianity.

 

[Michael S. Pearl]

That would seem to refute your claim as to the absolute authority of Paul based in divine inspiration.

There is no such claim.

As has been elaborated at length Paul's claim to be of god's inspiration not human is an assertion of divine authority. The basis of all Christian variation and the internecine Christian conflict going back to the 1st century. Diffe3nces in interpretation, leading to the Council Of Nicaea. Christian violence in the empire wsa out of control and Constantine needed to end it,

That the bible is the inspired word of god is fundamental to Christianity.

I was taught that in Catholic high school religion class.

The general work around for Christians to pick and chose what to cite forom the OT and NT. I call it the Chinese menu Chrtianity.

All irrelevant.

You said "your claim as to the absolute authority" which as a reference means you attribute that claim to me, and there is no such claim.

You are wrong. Adding more words does not make you less wrong. Adding more words is merely a distraction from what is/was the issue.

 

[steve_bank]

Mr Pearl

You are avoiding direct answers hiding behind wordy logical arguments. Obfuscation, I know some big word too but I don't use them unless there is a real need.

I prefer direct plain language.

Going back to your fist posts on Paul you argued that Paul ws not influenced by Greek philosophy and was inspired by god. Paul said he was not interspersed by men.

The problem with lengthy convoluted arguments is one can loose sight of the issue, it becomes a debate over meaning and logic rater than the original thesis.

Done intentionally in politics especially and debate in general it can be called pivoting. Moving attention away from and having to answer a more continuous and difficult question.

The fundamental question for Christians is the existence of there god. It is never really addressed, all theology is based on an a-priori assumption that god exists.

You say Paul was inspired by god, you speak as if god exists without having to rprove it.

That is why to me theology is all had waving, smoke and mirror. All invention by human imagination, not a god.

 

[Michael S. Pearl]

Going back to your fist posts on Paul you argued that Paul ws not influenced by Greek philosophy and was inspired by god.

Prove it.

 

[steve_bank]

Intellectual honesty is important atheist or theist That is between you, your god, and your ethics. Unless you are nit really Christian, which would be a dishonesty, not saying what you actually believe.

In a few sentences what exactly is the point you are tying to make over all those pots of your, do you even have a point? I don;t think yu do.

Your debate with NHC is more appropriate for philosophy forum. Debate for te sake of debatel.

Yiu said wht I said is irrelevant. Please say exactly relevant to what? If you can.

If you can not I'd say you do not know what you are doing.

I leaned defending a point partly in political science and philosophy classes, and mostly in the corporate tech world. I can detect bullshitters and phonies. To be sureI'd have to hear your speak and see your facial expressions.

 

[Michael S. Pearl]

Intellectual honesty is important atheist or theist

So, it is for the sake of intellectual honesty that you attribute a position to me without caring to justify your attribution or, in the alternative, without caring to acknowledge an error on your part?

 

[steve_bank]

Intellectual honesty is important atheist or theist

So, it is for the sake of intellectual honesty that you attribute a position to me without caring to justify your attribution or, in the alternative, without caring to acknowledge an error on your part?

QED - Pearl makes a pivot.

Simple question. What point are you making in all your recent lengthy posts? I

It is dishonest to be arguing religion and not tstating what it is you believe.

I started the thread with a post someone made on another thread. If you have nothing to say about the origins of Christianity and want to derail into pointless philosophical debate start anterior thread.