Paul Ryan's worst nightmare?

[ksen]

[YOUTUBE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6zAyPRbels[/YOUTUBE]

Meet the populist Wisconsin Democrat looking to dethrone Paul Ryan

I want to say to [Ryan], “Let’s swap places.” I would love to see you walk on a beam a couple hundred feet in the air carrying tools that weigh 150 pounds. Working iron isn’t lifting weights in those posing shots with dumbbells. That’s not working iron as far as I’m concerned.

What has socialism brought us? You have parks, the ability to use flush toilets, which are kind of useful. But to say that it couldn’t have happened without socialists — who knows?

I love this guy.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Just as a note, the Socialist party platform in 1900 called for public ownership of all utilities.

 

[Cheerful Charlie]

Wisconsin at the turn of the 20th century was a hot bed of socialism.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sewer_Socialism

Sewer Socialism was a term, originally pejorative, for the American socialist movement that centered in Milwaukee, Wisconsin from around 1892 to 1960.^[1] The term was coined by Morris Hillquit at the 1932 Milwaukee convention of the Socialist Party of America, as a commentary on the Milwaukee socialists and their perpetual boasting about the excellent public sewer system in the city.

More Sewer Socialism! Less Ayn Rand!

 

[untermensche]

If only elections were decided by sense and an understanding of what is in one's best interests.

Unfortunately right now they are decided by negative television commercials and the money to make them and put them on the air.

 

[Jayjay]

With that moustache it's going to be an uphill battle.

 

[ksen]

The Ironstache is electoral gold.

 

[Derec]

1. Socialism means public ownership of means of production, not that government sets up parks or sewers.
2. This gay has ran for state House and state Senate and lost both times. What makes him think he can win against the most prominent Republican Congressman in the US House? And when was teh last time a sitting speaker lost the election?
3. The guy doesn't have a wikipedia page for a quick look at his bio. Anybody know more about him other than that he is a steelworker.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

1. Socialism means public ownership of means of production, not that government sets up parks or sewers.
2. This gay has ran for state House and state Senate and lost both times. What makes him think he can win against the most prominent Republican Congressman in the US House? And when was teh last time a sitting speaker lost the election?
3. The guy doesn't have a wikipedia page for a quick look at his bio. Anybody know more about him other than that he is a steelworker.

Regarding 1), as I stated above, Socialist party platform in 1900 was public ownership of all utilities. So please stop pretending that your Ayn Rand Cliff Notes counts as knowing shit about socialism in America.

 

[LordKiran]

1. Socialism means public ownership of means of production, not that government sets up parks or sewers.
2. This gay has ran for state House and state Senate and lost both times. What makes him think he can win against the most prominent Republican Congressman in the US House? And when was teh last time a sitting speaker lost the election?
3. The guy doesn't have a wikipedia page for a quick look at his bio. Anybody know more about him other than that he is a steelworker.

"This gay" huh? You know, I'd be irritated if I didn't think you probably intentionally typed this just to incense someone.

 

[Harry Bosch]

I don't know much about Bryce. I always feared that Ryan was the rising star. However, I think that he's doomed his future by being such a Trumpster wannabee. I think that his future will be tarred.

 

[Opoponax]

If only elections were decided by sense and an understanding of what is in one's best interests.

Unfortunately right now they are decided by negative television commercials and the money to make them and put them on the air.

Yeah, but should't a person have the most basic understanding of what their bests interests are?

Shouldn't one believe that it's in their best interest to not have to choose between bankruptcy and death? And shouldn't that be even more so when it comes to their children?

How should it be that a television commercial can sway someone to make a decision that will predictably be bad for them? I mean, that really does happen, no doubt about it.

I think my point is that we should be holding the idiot voter responsible for their decision more than the advertising they're exposed to. This isn't about picking a brand of toilet paper. If someone is convinced that Charmin feels better on their asshole than Quilted Northern, when in fact Quilted Northern has been scientifically proven to be softer (e.g.), who gives a fuck? But when the decisions these morons make have the likely potential to kill other people and otherwise spread general misery, shouldn't we hold them to a higher standard than the asswipe they've been persuaded to buy?

 

[Opoponax]

1. Socialism means public ownership of means of production, not that government sets up parks or sewers.
2. This gay has ran for state House and state Senate and lost both times. What makes him think he can win against the most prominent Republican Congressman in the US House? And when was teh last time a sitting speaker lost the election?
3. The guy doesn't have a wikipedia page for a quick look at his bio. Anybody know more about him other than that he is a steelworker.

If Donald fucking Trump can be President, then this guy, and I don't care who he is, is qualified to be a Congressman.

 

[Opoponax]

I don't know much about Bryce. I always feared that Ryan was the rising star. However, I think that he's doomed his future by being such a Trumpster wannabee. I think that his future will be tarred.

No, because:

The first piece of evidence for this is in the imbalance between the statewide popular vote and the partisan makeup of the Wisconsin Assembly: in 2012, Republican candidates earned 48.6 percent of the statewide popular vote. But because of how they had drawn district boundaries the prior year, they won more than 60 percent of the Assembly seats.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ng-is-such-a-big-deal/?utm_term=.1e137d947979

So unless this Supreme Court (and pay attention to this third party voters), which is solidly conservative now, suddenly decides that gerrymandering isn't a political question it won't touch, Wisconsin Republicans just have to put a name on the ballot and they're assured of control.

A minority party possesses a super majority of seats. It's such a disgusting abuse of the system that one would think SCOTUS, as our most august judicial body would put an end to this abuse. But it's a good bet they won't. Therefore, Paul Ryan, whose district has been gerrymandered to eliminate all opposition, is practically unbeatable. It's simple: all he has to do is have his name on the ballot and he has a job for life.

 

[Harry Bosch]

No, because:

The first piece of evidence for this is in the imbalance between the statewide popular vote and the partisan makeup of the Wisconsin Assembly: in 2012, Republican candidates earned 48.6 percent of the statewide popular vote. But because of how they had drawn district boundaries the prior year, they won more than 60 percent of the Assembly seats.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ng-is-such-a-big-deal/?utm_term=.1e137d947979

So unless this Supreme Court (and pay attention to this third party voters), which is solidly conservative now, suddenly decides that gerrymandering isn't a political question it won't touch, Wisconsin Republicans just have to put a name on the ballot and they're assured of control.

A minority party possesses a super majority of seats. It's such a disgusting abuse of the system that one would think SCOTUS, as our most august judicial body would put an end to this abuse. But it's a good bet they won't. Therefore, Paul Ryan, whose district has been gerrymandered to eliminate all opposition, is practically unbeatable. It's simple: all he has to do is have his name on the ballot and he has a job for life.

Totally agree. A minority party controls every single unit of government in the US.

 

[laughing dog]

Paul Ryan's worst nightmare is having to show some real backbone.

 

[ZiprHead]

Paul Ryan's worst nightmare is having to show some real backbone empathy for poor people.

FTFY

 

[laughing dog]

Paul Ryan's worst nightmare is having to show some real backbone empathy for poor people.

FTFY

Thanks!

 

[Nice Squirrel]

2. This gay has ran for state House and state Senate and lost both times. What makes him think he can win against the most prominent Republican Congressman in the US House? And when was teh last time a sitting speaker lost the election?

You mean besides the conservatives ones that stepped down in shame?

3. The guy doesn't have a wikipedia page for a quick look at his bio.

So?

 

[untermensche]

If only elections were decided by sense and an understanding of what is in one's best interests.

Unfortunately right now they are decided by negative television commercials and the money to make them and put them on the air.

Yeah, but should't a person have the most basic understanding of what their bests interests are?

Shouldn't one believe that it's in their best interest to not have to choose between bankruptcy and death? And shouldn't that be even more so when it comes to their children?

You would think so.

But getting rid of that evil work by the black man is more important to some.

Building a Wall in Texas is more important to some.

How should it be that a television commercial can sway someone to make a decision that will predictably be bad for them? I mean, that really does happen, no doubt about it.

Humans are apes, not angels.

 

[Jayjay]

Paul Ryan's worst nightmare is having to show some real backbone empathy for poor people.

FTFY

Nonsense. Paul Ryan worked at McDonalds one summer, so he has experienced the full range of the poor people experience and can emphatise with them perfectly. In fact he knows the poor people better than they know themselves, those ungrateful little pricks who don't know what's good for them.