And the fact is, everything I propose protects everyone,
"Separate, but equal" and "Affirmative Action" rolled into one.
You are a genius.
Why don't those cis-females recognize that? Dumb bitches. Why do us guys listen to them?
Baby, you can't swim! Fetch me a beer.
Tom
Which cis females. I am pretty sure most such athletes are serious enough that they don't really care whether the person they are playing against was born with balls so long as they never got a significant competitive advantage on account of them in particular.
You really don't know about cis-females at all, do you?
Misogynistic is the olden days term for guys who didn't understand why women didn't understand their place. Today, it's politically correct.
I'm being as charitable as I can. There's lots of words I would prefer to use here, but I doubt that they're permissible.
Those of us who see women's issues as being as important as trans issues are labeled transphobic. "Angry" "An enemy"
Ask @EmilyLake.
Or the Penn women's swim team.
Oh wait.
Why would you ask women for an opinion? What do women's opinions have to do with reality?
You just tell them what's what.
Tom
So, I'm going to take the vocal minority and disregard them same as I would for metaphor and his concerns about men.
IF you wish to make this about "female" concerns over all others, then it's really about catering to TERFs.
Emily is a TERF and Emily can pound sand as long as she holds onto her crazed TERFy behavior.
I will gladly ask people their opinions, do a look at those opinions and every opinion that is loud and uses special pleading I will point out and then throw away.
Neither "women" nor "men", nor "eunuchs" nor "cis" nor whatever other label you wish has any special right to be separated, segregated, or treated in different regards.
What I do know is there are people who wish to compete, that it is a plain fact that what I have proposed will create fair competiton as relates to testosterone-based physical advantages, and will open the door to the next steps of understanding.
What I can see in fact as the primary driver for rejecting this is that you can't use it to eject trans people from sports, and you can no longer use them as a cudgel or example of something "broken".
It's taken TERFs almost a decade of work to drum up this complaint, and it's one of only three primarily battleground issues, the other issues being prisons (which we ought fix instead with policies to move towards the Nordic model), and with bathrooms (which we can fix at least moving forward by transitioning from "genital A/genital B" to "community"/"family").
The TERFs have nothing else. They know that they won't be able to discover any other situations in society where trans people are disruptive enough to use that disruption as an excuse for hate. They've had 10 years to search and find it and they are still on this garbage.
So flip it around. Remember this is not just about women.
TERFs seek to erase non-cis persons, denies them space to compete, denies them the power to be seen and accepted. To erase them so as to "protect" half of everyone from being, what, exactly? Not talked about the way they once were?
Yes, I'm going to disregard childish TERF concerns, I'm going to push for zero sports leagues restricted on any other concept than androgen exposures, and I'm going to do it HAPPILY over the objections of TERFs while happily listening to and working with everyone else to get a compromise in place that "everyone" hates.
Only one set of sports leagues here discriminates absolutely against people on the basis of their genital, gender, or any such other thing. So the group that is doing that is the one that gets their discriminative toy taken away.
The sign of a good compromise is that "everyone" hates it, which is to say "everyone who wanted to troll the system". I'm not really sorry you would get your vehicle for trolling and crybullying taken away.
Crybully someone else
