Other than the flawed level experiment. You keep posting stuff that isn't proof at all. They believed the dog didn't recognize his owner because he lost weight. Not true. The dog needed his sense of smell to recognize. You'll ignore anything that doesn't support your belief. Confirmation bias 101.
This makes sense. Unbeknownst to the owner, he was giving the horse visual cues as to what to tap. Thanks for the article.With animal experiments care has to be taken not to inadvertently condition the animals to respond in a certain way.
Clever Hansd was a sensation. Philosophers and scientists traveled to see it. Somebody got the idea of putting a vi9sual barrier between the horse and the owner. When the horse could not see the owner it no longer responded.
Clever Hans - Wikipedia
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Again, I have no idea what you're talking about. Body parts a source of evil? This just shows me you are pulling things out of your arse because you have no idea why he even made that claim.
Right, they even had exorcisms (still do, I believe) thinking they were getting rid of evil spirits. Lessans wrote: Mankind has been slowly developing and if you go back far enough in history you will find that we believed pregnancy was caused by the bite of an enamored snake, which prevented many girls from bathing at certain times but never prevented them from mating. People had all kinds of beliefs and prophesies that turned out to be wrong.A much more effective way to purge evil is to drill a hole in the skull to let the evil spirits get out, as was done in the 19tth century and earlier.
There was Mesmer and his animal magnetism.
Franz Mesmer - Wikipedia
There is a long western tradition of 'seers', prophesiers. and mystics.
You know what I meant. It's just shorthand for the wavelength or information. To your surprise, there is no value that the wavelength sends to the eyes. The conditioning goes on in the head, true, but the question remains: how does this conditioning occur?
I saw your Trump idea and it was insincere and meant to create lulz. Stop trying to turn this thread into ff.
You're just continuning to goof on me. I already told you that my father had a sense of humor and used it as comic relief. I didn't take it out. Your motive has never been to help me. It's been to make me look foolish. In context, the chapter on marriage was part of how this knowledge extends. It wasn't really raunchy unless you're a puritan. He purposely used words to show that in the new world, as long as two people like what they are doing, it is not perverted. Remember, he came from a time that women were frigid because of being taught that sex was dirty. Please stop what you're doing, okay? You're being unfair and you know it. This was in one of his other books:I believe I discovered Krishnamurti while reading Henry Miller in my 20s. He was a big fan of K. Incidentally, this author has penned humorous raunchy sex stuff that matches and may exceed that of Miller. But in “compiling” this book, peacegirl took all that out.Too bad. If I had been the editor of this work — and I have worked for a long time as a professional editor and writer — I would have put all the sex stuff smack in the first chapter as a hook to leading readers to the two-sided equation and all that. With that great funny sex stuff in their minds, the readers might have been conditioned to give the author the benefit of the doubt about his light and sight claims. Peacegirl might have had a best seller. Still could, if she would present the stuff as recommended and also trim the book length considerably. I believe it is almost 600 pages long
Semantics are words Pood, and words condition us, which is exactly what Lessans was saying. You just want to believe he was wrong about the eyes any way that you can. This truth can bring everyone up to a level of equality physiognomically and intellectually, even though we are all different in our features and our intellectual capacities. This has everything to do with what we think we see with our eyes. As far as semantics goes, you'll have to read Chapter Eleven: The New Meaning of Education to get any understanding of how words have created a false sense of superiority based on a person's educational status where they then demand more respect than they are willing to give. I cannot spoon-feed this to you.
You're failing to understand how conditioning happens in the first place. It doesn't just appear in our head. It's exactly how Lessans describes. Then and only then can we be coming from a place of choiceless perception. We can't get out of the prison when we are already conditioned. But we can stop using the words that hurt. Eventually children never hearing words like beautiful and ugly when no such person exists, they will grow up being healthy confident adults. We will always have personal preferences but that is different from stratifying people into layers of value that make them appear superior human beings because of words ONLY, not reality.
I'm really not sure what you're getting at. If you felt justified to blame me, then your conscience would permit this blame. I'm not exactly sure what would be giving you the justification (from the above post), but one thing is for sure; you would have to feel I have wronged you or someone else in some way. Sometimes we believe things that allow us to feel justified to blame until we realize the belief we were holding onto was false.
Why should I break up the paragraphs if you refuse to read? Someone who is interested wouldn't care if the text was in crayon with no punctuation. Moreover, if you think it's gibberish, then for sure you wouldn't read it, so what's the point of your suggestion?
No they can't. It's hard to tease out cues that would indicate they recognize but put them in front of a picture or a cardboard replica of their owner which is right in front of them and see what happens. This could be done when the dog hasn't seen his owner in a while and loves his owner very much by the anticipation every day when his owner has come home from work. This can't be that hard to test without levers.
That's so sad!Their sense of smell is mind-blowing. They can smell cancer. They can smell moods. They can smell scents from a mile away that we lost after a couple of feet. They can smell in stereo, whatever that means. When they look out the rolled-down windows of moving cars, as they so often do, they are not sight-seeing as we would, but scent-smelling. Dawkins speculates they smell in color. Some people do, too, or experience color through sounds. It is called synesthesia. Van Gogh may have had it. He took piano lessons and loudly banged on the keys while crying, “Chrome Yellow! Prussian Blue!” etc. His piano teacher thought he was a madman and stopped giving him lessons.
No they can't. It's hard to tease out cues that would indicate they recognize but put them in front of a picture or a cardboard replica of their owner which is right in front of them and see what happens. This could be done when the dog hasn't seen his owner in a while and loves his owner very much by the anticipation every day when his owner has come home from work. This can't be that hard to test without levers.
That's so sad!Their sense of smell is mind-blowing. They can smell cancer. They can smell moods. They can smell scents from a mile away that we lost after a couple of feet. They can smell in stereo, whatever that means. When they look out the rolled-down windows of moving cars, as they so often do, they are not sight-seeing as we would, but scent-smelling. Dawkins speculates they smell in color. Some people do, too, or experience color through sounds. It is called synesthesia. Van Gogh may have had it. He took piano lessons and loudly banged on the keys while crying, “Chrome Yellow! Prussian Blue!” etc. His piano teacher thought he was a madman and stopped giving him lessons.
He never said that it did. An infant would not be able to focus no matter how much light was present or how colorful the objects would be if the baby was not stimulated by any of the other senses. Sound is just one sense. Touch, smell, and taste could also do the job. Once the eyes are focused, the eyes stay focused. It's just when they are born that the other senses are of paramount importance when it comes to sight.
Interesting article. Thanks!"What Did We Find?
As we thought, the deaf and hearing babies did behave differently in our experiment. The deaf babies took longer to habituate to the pictures of colorful toys. On average, they looked at the toys for about 70 total seconds during the test. The hearing babies looked at the toys for about 42 total seconds (Figure 2). We think this means the deaf babies took longer to process what they were seeing than the hearing babies."
Does Being Born Deaf Affect How We See?
Have you ever heard someone say that if you are born deaf, you have better vision to make up for it? People often think so, but is that actually true? We know that what babies hear, see, and touch determines how their brains develop. When you are growing, your brain is flexible. This means it...kids.frontiersin.org
He shared this in his tape recording that he left me in the 70s. I converted it to an mp3. You can listen to him and hopefully you will understand his desperation. Pood makes fun of him every chance he gets. He's out to get him no matter how low he has to go.
It has everything to do with how the eyes work because of what we are conditioned to see due to words. Did you not read the excerpt?
I am not disputing any of this. All I am saying is that we become conditioned to favoring certain facial features when we have learned from an early age what constitutes beauty in the eyes of society, and what doesn't. American faces to many Orientals are more beautiful so they are getting their eyelids done to look more American. This conditioning could not occur if not for words that give the appearance of reality. Being labeled beautiful or ugly also has an effect on social conditioning because of how people are judged by their looks and their social status. Every culture is slightly different in their standard of beauty, but this doesn't change how this conditioning takes place."Social conditioning is the sociological process of training individuals in a society to respond in a manner generally approved by the society in general and peer groups within society.
The concept is stronger than that of socialization, which is the process of inheriting norms, customs and ideologies.
Manifestations of social conditioning are vast, but they are generally categorized as social patterns and social structures including nationalism, education, employment, entertainment, popular culture, religion, spirituality and family life. The social structure in which an individual finds him or herself influences and can determine their social actions and responses."
Social conditioning
Social conditioning is the sociological process of training individuals in a society to respond in a manner generally approved by the society in general and peer groups within society. The concept is stronger than that of socialization, which is the process of inheriting norms, customs and...dbpedia.org
It has everything to do with how the eyes work because of what we are conditioned to see due to words. Did you not read the excerpt?
Scientists, believing that the eyes were a sense organ, unconsciously confirmed what man saw with them because they were unaware that it was possible to project a fallacious relation realistically. Consequently, everything in the external world will be distorted if the words through which man looks at what he calls reality are inaccurate symbols or if the relation that is photographed becomes, as in the five senses, an inaccurate negative that is then projected realistically upon undeniable substance. The word beautiful has absolutely no external reality and yet because it is learned in association with a particular physiognomy, a beautiful girl is created when no such person exists. Obviously, there is a difference between the shape and features of individuals, but to label one beautiful and another ugly only reveals that you are conscious of a fallacious difference that is projected through your eyes upon substance that cannot be denied — which makes the projection appear real. By having the words beautiful, ugly, gorgeous, etc. as slides in a movie projector through which the brain will look at the external world, a fallacious value is placed upon certain specific differences only because of the words, which are then confirmed as a part of the real world since man will swear that he sees beautiful women with his eyes. But in actual reality, all he sees are different shapes and different features. This beautiful girl is not striking his optic nerve which then allows him to see her beauty, but instead he projects the word onto these differences and then photographs a fallacious relation. The brain records all relations, whether true or false, and since it was considered an indisputable fact that man had five senses which were connected in some way with the external world, and since four of these were accurately described as sense organs, that is, they receive and transmit external stimuli, it was very easy for Aristotle to get confused and put a closure on further investigation by including the eyes in the definition, which he did only because he never understood their true function.
I am not disputing any of this. All I am saying is that we become conditioned to favoring certain facial features when we have learned from an early age what constitutes beauty in the eyes of society, and what doesn't. American faces to many Orientals are more beautiful so they are getting their eyelids done to look more American. This conditioning could not occur if not for words that give the appearance of reality. Being labeled beautiful or ugly also has an effect on social conditioning because of how people are judged by their looks and their social status. Every culture is slightly different in their standard of beauty, but this doesn't change how this conditioning takes place."Social conditioning is the sociological process of training individuals in a society to respond in a manner generally approved by the society in general and peer groups within society.
The concept is stronger than that of socialization, which is the process of inheriting norms, customs and ideologies.
Manifestations of social conditioning are vast, but they are generally categorized as social patterns and social structures including nationalism, education, employment, entertainment, popular culture, religion, spirituality and family life. The social structure in which an individual finds him or herself influences and can determine their social actions and responses."
Social conditioning
Social conditioning is the sociological process of training individuals in a society to respond in a manner generally approved by the society in general and peer groups within society. The concept is stronger than that of socialization, which is the process of inheriting norms, customs and...dbpedia.org
