Right-wing militant charged for planting a bomb at BLM building

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

Right-wing militant charged for planting a bomb at BLM building

On the night of June 21, members of the Patriots Defense Force militia allegedly planted a bomb at a Bureau of Land Management cabin in Mount Trumbull, in northwest Arizona, with the intention of blowing the building apart. A Utah man, William Keebler, who leads the group, apparently orchestrated the failed attack in response to what he views as federal government overreach and the mismanagement of natural resources.

Undercover FBI agents first infiltrated the Stockton, Utah-based militia group several months ago. Agents apparently thwarted the attack by providing a faulty bomb, which failed to explode. FBI agents arrested Keebler on Wednesday in Nephi, Utah.

Court documents state that Keebler intended to blow up government vehicles and buildings, not people, though he also wanted to create a second bomb that might be “used against law enforcement if they got stopped while driving.” Keebler had also considered bombing a BLM office near the Gateway Mall in Salt Lake City, but decided on the more remote Arizona location instead. The Mount Trumbull facility is near the grazing allotment of LaVoy Finicum, the activist who was shot and killed by the FBI in a confrontation at the end of the armed occupation of Oregon’s Malheur National Wildlife Refuge earlier this year. Keebler knew Finicum and scouted the location of the bomb attack with him last year.

http://www.hcn.org/articles/bomb-threat-blm-bureau-land-management-sagebrush-rebellion-arizona-bundy

Imagine how much more numerous and intense these guys would be if we were living in a failed state.

 

[Derec]

Given that Weather Underground terrorists who were planting bombs in the 70s (Bill Ayers, Bernardine Dohrn, Kathy Boudin etc.) were rewarded with university professorships, we should expect these guys to get hired by the likes of Columbia and UofIllinois, right?

 

[Keith&Co.]

Given that Weather Underground terrorists who were planting bombs in the 70s (Bill Ayers, Bernardine Dohrn, Kathy Boudin etc.) were rewarded with university professorships, we should expect these guys to get hired by the likes of Columbia and UofIllinois, right?

Wow, that's such an unexpected reaction from you, Derec.

Yes, and so on-point, too.

 

[Derec]

Given that Weather Underground terrorists who were planting bombs in the 70s (Bill Ayers, Bernardine Dohrn, Kathy Boudin etc.) were rewarded with university professorships, we should expect these guys to get hired by the likes of Columbia and UofIllinois, right?

Wow, that's such an unexpected reaction from you, Derec.
Yes, and so on-point, too.

It's just pointing out that Left (that dominates universities and this board) loves themselves some left wing terrorists.

I think both left and right wing terrorism needs to be condemned. You apparently think it's ok to reward left wing terrorism.

 

[Keith&Co.]

It's just pointing out over & over & over & over & over & over & over & over & over & over & over that Left loves themselves some left wing terrorists. ... You apparently think it's ok to reward left wing terrorism.

No, that's not apparent.
I just think that we can condemn terrorism in one particular instance and keep the discussion there, on that event, without having to natter on and on and on and on about a personal trigger in every single thread we come across, diluting any possible point we may have had to make by becoming a single-issue clown.

But that's just me.

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

It's just pointing out over & over & over & over & over & over & over & over & over & over & over that Left loves themselves some left wing terrorists. ... You apparently think it's ok to reward left wing terrorism.

No, that's not apparent.
I just think that we can condemn terrorism in one particular instance and keep the discussion there, on that event, without having to natter on and on and on and on about a personal trigger in every single thread we come across, diluting any possible point we may have had to make by becoming a single-issue clown.

But that's just me.

Well, at least he hasn't posted his cloud account photos of black people yet.

Baby steps.

 

[AthenaAwakened]

Wow, that's such an unexpected reaction from you, Derec.
Yes, and so on-point, too.

It's just pointing out that Left (that dominates universities and this board) loves themselves some left wing terrorists.

I think both left and right wing terrorism needs to be condemned. You apparently think it's ok to reward left wing terrorism.

What exactly is your cut off date for relevancy?

Because if all of history is open, right wing terror wins.

 

[Derec]

What exactly is your cut off date for relevancy?

Weather Underground terrorists like Boudin are still "teaching" at universities. One of their members' sentence was commuted by Bill Clinton in 2001. This is by no means ancient history.

Because if all of history is open, right wing terror wins.

It's not about who "wins", it's about how these terrorists are treated. It's unconscionable to have terrorists be professors at major universities, yet that is what happened to WU.

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Well, at least he hasn't posted his cloud account photos of black people yet.

Do you have anything but ad hominems?

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No, that's not apparent.
I just think that we can condemn terrorism in one particular instance and keep the discussion there, on that event, without having to natter on and on and on and on about a personal trigger in every single thread we come across, diluting any possible point we may have had to make by becoming a single-issue clown.

When you have an act that is similar to MO of Weather Underground (placing bombs at government buildings) it is quite relevant to compare the two groups.

 

[Keith&Co.]

When you have an act that is similar to MO of Weather Underground (placing bombs at government buildings) it is quite relevant to compare the two groups.

Not really. You're not comparing the two groups.
You're bitching about how certain individuals have prospered after their crimes.


Seriously, you resemble one of those cheap Ink Blot Test skits they come up with when they need filler material and can't be bothered to write real humor.
Scene is a psychiatrist's office.
DOC (Holding up an ink blot): What do you see?
DEREC: Leftists are just as bad!
DOC (Holding up an ink blot): What do you see?
DEREC: Women do the same thing!
DOC (Holding up an ink blot): What do you see?
DEREC: The Left is just as bad!
DOC (Holding up an ink blot): What do you see?
DEREC: Blacks are racist, too!
DOC (Holding up an ink blot): What do you see?
DEREC: ALL the Left do the same thing!

 

[Keith&Co.]

Well, at least he hasn't posted his cloud account photos of black people yet.

Do you have anything but ad hominems?

How is that an ad hominem?

 

[dismal]

This just proves we need better bomb control.

I blame the bastards at the National Bomb Association.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

So I'm wondering, 'the Black Lives Matter' group has a building?

So the right-wing anarchists are at it again. Of course, the 'bomb' was provided by the FBI... again! I suppose the good news is that these militia's love their guns so much, they don't know how to make a bomb.

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Weather Underground terrorists like Boudin are still "teaching" at universities. One of their members' sentence was commuted by Bill Clinton in 2001. This is by no means ancient history.

I don't condone any act of terrorism. Though I have to ask, are we to jail anyone related to a potential terror threat for the rest of their lives, even if these people aren't threats anymore?

 

[Cheerful Charlie]

These weather underground terrorists were arrested, and served long prison sentences. 40 years ago. They did their time and moved on. Now, we don't see such left wing terrorist groups active today. Why would anybody think they excuse todays right wing bomb planting boobs?

 

[GenesisNemesis]

Do you have anything but ad hominems?

How is that an ad hominem?

Also that accusation coming from someone who claims the Left likes terrorists.

 

[JonA]

Why would anybody think they excuse todays right wing bomb planting boobs?

I don't believe anyone here thinks that.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

These weather underground terrorists were arrested, and served long prison sentences. 40 years ago. They did their time and moved on. Now, we don't see such left wing terrorist groups active today. Why would anybody think they excuse todays right wing bomb planting boobs?

Honestly, I wouldn't complain if that was what they were planting.

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

This just proves we need better bomb control.

I blame the bastards at the National Bomb Association.

Yeah, you should do a sit-on somewhere. #NoBillNoPosting

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Do you have anything but ad hominems?

How is that an ad hominem?

I know, right. If I had written that he was NOT storing such images [or their links] for re-use, now that would be insulting because it'd be saying how inefficient his process is.

 

[Derec]

These weather underground terrorists were arrested, and served long prison sentences. 40 years ago. They did their time and moved on. Now, we don't see such left wing terrorist groups active today.

They don't need to. They completed their "march through the institutions" and have gotten university and government positions and can thus push their agenda from the inside. After all, they did not really change their radical leftist positions.

Why would anybody think they excuse todays right wing bomb planting boobs?

It does not excuse them of course. I despise both. But left-wing terrorists do get rewarded for their radical views. Again, I doubt Columbia will be hiring these guys after they serve their time. But they did hire Kathy Boudin even though she and WU tried to bomb Columbia itself. Luckily that bomb exploded during assembly and only a few terrorists died.

 

[Derec]

You're not comparing the two groups.
You're bitching about how certain individuals have prospered after their crimes.

Those are not mutually exclusive. The two groups' MOs are very similar and yet the response to them is very different.

Seriously, you resemble one of those cheap Ink Blot Test skits they come up with when they need filler material and can't be bothered to write real humor.

No, ink blots are random patterns. WU bombing government buildings and these guys bombing government buildings shows a great deal of similarity.

 

[Keith&Co.]

No, ink blots are random patterns. WU bombing government buildings and these guys bombing government buildings shows a great deal of similarity.

No, Derec, the whole point of the ink blot skit is the fixation of the subject. That applies as no matter WHAT the subject of hte OP is, there are a discrete number of things you want to talk about... In every fucking thread.