Squad private Ilhan Omar supports thug who shot at police

[Derec]

[TWEET]<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">MPD is a joke, this isn’t transparency or accountability.<br><br>A man was killed, his family terrorized & robbed of a son and all they are left w/ is more questions than answers.<br><br>Let’s stop normalizing + justifying state sanctioned murder by those who take an oath to uphold the law. <a href="https://t.co/PPYcYvCa6i">https://t.co/PPYcYvCa6i</a></p>— Ilhan Omar (@IlhanMN) <a href="https://twitter.com/IlhanMN/status/1344841158913118208?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 1, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>[/TWEET]

Who is she babbling about? The guy's name is Dolal Idd. A fellow Somali, which might explain why she is so quick to take his side and libelously call this justified shooting "muder". Police in Minneapolis performed a felony stop when he opened fire on them. The officers returned fire and killed him. So it's definitely not murder. Attempted murder by Dolal Idd, but he is beyond prosecution for that.

Here’s what we know about the fatal police shooting outside a Minneapolis gas station

Arradondo said officers were executing a traffic stop, which took place at the Holiday gas station at 36th Street East and Cedar Avenue in south Minneapolis, as part of a “probable cause” weapons investigation. But he didn’t offer more specifics about it. A police spokesperson earlier said that the victim was suspected of a felony. Arradondo said after watching the video, he’s convinced that Idd shot at officers before they returned fire. Officers recovered a weapon at the scene, he said.
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At the Holiday gas station parking lot, officers are heard ordering the driver of a white car to stop his vehicle and to put his hands up. The car keeps moving, but police SUVs box him in. A slowed-down version of the video released by police appears to show shards of glass from the white car's window shattering outward. More than a dozen shots then ring out.

Pretty clear cut. Of course, BLM activists are having none of it because facts are apparently racist.

“It’s still extremely difficult to believe the police version of events,” said activist Nekima Levy Armstrong on Thursday night, shortly after the video was released. “All we’re asking for are basic answers to basic questions. Why did you pull the man over in the first place? When he tried to leave, why did you cattle him in? Why did you get all ready for some bloodshed?”

How does she think police shot respond when a perp shoots at them? And before then, should they not stop people suspected of felonies? If those people try to flee, should police just shrug and let them go? This Nekima chick is being ridiculous - anything but seeing any fault in an armed and dangerous thug who is shooting at police.

According to Minnesota Bureau of Criminal Apprehension records, Idd had been convicted of five misdemeanors and two felonies. Records show that he was jailed for possession of marijuana, carrying a firearm without a permit, theft, his involvement in a traffic accident, fleeing a police officer and giving a false name to a police officer. He was just finishing a three-year probation, his father said.
In an incident from 2018, police say Idd, then 21, fired a gun in his family’s basement while two younger children were sleeping on the same level, according to Southwest News Media.

In that 2018 incident, he was barred from being in his parents' house because he was "scaring the kids". And yet now his family are trying to pretend he is a "family man" and that he was only shot because he was "black".
Man charged after allegedly firing gun in Eden Prairie home where he isn’t allowed

That family in general really has a problem with the law. His brother Mohammed Idd is likely a murderer.
Two Men Charged In Fatal Shooting At Bloomington Apartment
This happened just a month ago.

His other brother, Dolal, beat up and robbed a guy in a Life Time Fitness 6 years ago.
Man Beaten In Life Time Fitness Locker Room
He was later convicted and sentenced to 13 years in the pokey.

Dolal and Dalal? Yeah, I know, it's confusing.

 

[laughing dog]

Omar is as off base about the MPD on this one aso Derec is in bringing in the victim's family's criminal records.

The distrust of the MPD by the minority communities (includes Native Americans) has been earned over the decades. Mr. Floyd's death at the hands of the MPD was the gasoline on the embers of that distrust. It will take years of work to regain it. Until then, expect distrust.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Omar is as off base about the MPD on this one aso Derec is in bringing in the victim's family's criminal records.

The distrust of the MPD by the minority communities (includes Native Americans) has been earned over the decades. Mr. Floyd's death at the hands of the MPD was the gasoline on the embers of that distrust. It will take years of work to regain it. Until then, expect distrust.

I think the family's criminal records are relevant here as they were being presented as a counter to a claim of being of good character.

 

[laughing dog]

Omar is as off base about the MPD on this one aso Derec is in bringing in the victim's family's criminal records.

The distrust of the MPD by the minority communities (includes Native Americans) has been earned over the decades. Mr. Floyd's death at the hands of the MPD was the gasoline on the embers of that distrust. It will take years of work to regain it. Until then, expect distrust.

I think the family's criminal records are relevant here as they were being presented as a counter to a claim of being of good character.

You think a victim's character is determined by their family's actions not their own?

 

[Derec]

Omar is as off base about the MPD on this one aso Derec is in bringing in the victim's family's criminal records.

It's also his own criminal record. He had 2 felonies including firing a gun in his parents' house.

The facts of Dolal Idd's felonious background are very much relevant given his father playing dumb.

Bayle Gelle, Idd’s father, showed up to the gas station just before noon with several family members and close friends. His purpose for returning to gas station, which was open and operating as normal Thursday, was to ask staff there to release the surveillance footage they have of the shooting.
“We need justice, we need justice,” Gelle said. “They don’t want to give us any answer.”
Gelle says authorities arrived at his Eden Prairie home in the middle of the night, telling him his son had been shot without giving much detail.
“He was just sitting in the car, and bullets were shot at him, and no reason. Why are we here? Because why were they shooting? Because of color. He is a Black man,” Gelle said. “We want to know why my sweet son gets shot and killed.”

From here.
Blatant lies in order to incite the crowd against police.

His brothers' records provide more background. Why should I not mention them?

The distrust of the MPD by the minority communities (includes Native Americans) has been earned over the decades.

But it has not been "earned". Vast majority of police shootings are completely justified.
By the way, I don't quite understand why you are singling out so-called "Native Americans" (more like Siberian-Americans!) since the dead guy was a Somali.

Mr. Floyd's death at the hands of the MPD was the gasoline on the embers of that distrust.

The Floyd case is more complex than the simplistic #BLM slogans suggest. He was overdosing on fentanyl and also had meth in his system. The parenchyma of his lungs was filled with liquid, which made it difficult for him to breathe. Chauvin was just incredibly unlucky that his admittedly stupid act coincided with Floyd overdosing and dying.

It will take years of work to regain it. Until then, expect distrust.

There is distrust and then there is ignoring facts because of a political, anti-police agenda. This is definitely the latter.

 

[laughing dog]

It's also his own criminal record. He had 2 felonies including firing a gun in his parents' house.

His criminal record is also not relevant to the actual situation. But it is more relevant than his family's.

The facts of Dolal Idd's felonious background are very much relevant given his father playing dumb.

Since that was not part of your OP, your post hoc excuse is duly noted. Really, you are only fooling yourself.

His brothers' records provide more background. Why should I not mention them?

They provide no background about the victim. Really, you are only fooling yourself.

But it has not been "earned".

They have been living with these police for decades. And this goes beyond shootings. Your opinion is irrelevant to the experience to the minority population of Minneapolis.

By the way, I don't quite understand why you are singling out so-called "Native Americans" (more like Siberian-Americans!) since the dead guy was a Somali.

Because I have some knowledge about Minneapolis. Native Americans are part of the minority population of Minneapolis and they also have historic mistreatment by the MPD.

The Floyd case is more complex than the simplistic #BLM slogans suggest. He was overdosing on fentanyl and also had meth in his system. The parenchyma of his lungs was filled with liquid, which made it difficult for him to breathe. Chauvin was just incredibly unlucky that his admittedly stupid act coincided with Floyd overdosing and dying.

Are you one of Chauvin's expert witnesses? Otherwise, your story is unconvincing and ignores the basic and simple fact that Chauvin used procedures that had been disallowed by the MPD.

There is distrust and then there is ignoring facts because of a political, anti-police agenda. This is definitely the latter.

Just like your religious trust of the police and your political antoi-BLM agenda color your view of the facts, their distrust colors their view of the facts.

 

[Derec]

Idiots are blocking the streets using parked cars. All those cars need to be towed away.
[TWEET]<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Crowd now moving into Cedar Avenue, volunteers have put cars at the end of each intersection to prevent any traffic from moving through, as they chant <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/JusticeForDolal?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#JusticeForDolal</a>. <a href="https://t.co/azJ6C3G6Ju">pic.twitter.com/azJ6C3G6Ju</a></p>— Marielle Mohs (@MarielleMohs) <a href="https://twitter.com/MarielleMohs/status/1345821466898669568?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 3, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>[/TWEET]

And what exactly are they protesting for? Should police not try to stop felons suspected of having illegal guns? Should police not defend themselves when armed felons open fire on them?
The #BLM movement has definitely jumped the shark!

 

[laughing dog]

Idiots are blocking the streets using parked cars. All those cars need to be towed away.
[TWEET]<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Crowd now moving into Cedar Avenue, volunteers have put cars at the end of each intersection to prevent any traffic from moving through, as they chant <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/JusticeForDolal?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#JusticeForDolal</a>. <a href="https://t.co/azJ6C3G6Ju">pic.twitter.com/azJ6C3G6Ju</a></p>— Marielle Mohs (@MarielleMohs) <a href="https://twitter.com/MarielleMohs/status/1345821466898669568?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 3, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>[/TWEET]

And what exactly are they protesting for? Should police not try to stop felons suspected of having illegal guns? Should police not defend themselves when armed felons open fire on them?
The #BLM movement has definitely jumped the shark!

If you bothered to read your own response, the reporter answered it with "Supporters here believe the police body camera footage is inconclusive and does not justify their use of force to kill Idd. "

Do you have actual disinterested evidence that this is BLM-driven?

 

[Derec]

If you bothered to read your own response, the reporter answered it with "Supporters here believe the police body camera footage is inconclusive and does not justify their use of force to kill Idd. "

It's some idiot at CAIR (an Islamist outfit) who called it "inconclusive". It objectively is quite conclusive. It's always the same story with these cases - reality is being denied because it doesn't fit the racist narrative. And a pro prominent #BLM activist from back in days of Michael Brown (she went by Levy-Pounds back then) basically said that police should not have tried to stop him in the first place.

Question still remains though, number one, why was the man pulled over in the first place? We were just told there was a felony traffic stop. Well what does that really mean? What were the circumstances that led to the man being pulled over? What were the circumstances regarding any previous interactions that he may have had with police in that particular area?Why did things ultimately end in a fatality? Were efforts made to deescalate the situation? These are questions that we need to ask beyond whatever is on the video footage, to ensure that there are protocols and practices that are in alignment with our values.

As a lawyer of some sort, she should know what a "felony stop" is. Her entire response is one of not giving any responsibility to the perp because he is black. Police, in her mind, should deescalate even when confronted with a perp who is shooting at them.

Do you have actual disinterested evidence that this is BLM-driven?

Some Black Power racists also showed up. And yes, black people can be (and often are) racists no matter the Lefist dogma.

 

[laughing dog]

It's some idiot at CAIR (an Islamist outfit) who called it "inconclusive". It objectively is quite conclusive. It's always the same story with these cases - reality is being denied because it doesn't fit the racist narrative. And a pro prominent #BLM activist from back in days of Michael Brown (she went by Levy-Pounds back then) basically said that police should not have tried to stop him in the first place.

People are entitled to their opinions. Their opinions are formed by their life experiences, their talents, available information and other influences. You don't live in the area. As far as I can tell, you know little to nothing about life as resident of Minneapolis/St. Paul, let alone life as a minority resident of the area. Obviously, the situation is not as clear cut to these doubters as it is to you.

As a lawyer of some sort, she should know what a "felony stop" is....

You clearly do not even bother to read the stuff you post. The following questions are reasonable and should be expected from those who do not trust the MPD:

We were just told there was a felony traffic stop. Well what does that really mean? What were the circumstances that led to the man being pulled over? What were the circumstances regarding any previous interactions that he may have had with police in that particular area?Why did things ultimately end in a fatality? Were efforts made to deescalate the situation?

The MPD should be able to answer these questions. Of course, whether the answers will be accepted or viewed as satisfactory are a different matter.


You think holding up Black Lives Matter posters means this is a BLM event or BLM driven? I have neighbors who show those signs as signal of support for what they consider to be equal treatment under the law. But even if it is driven by #BLM, so what? Many people think the police should not have virtual carte blanche to shoot civilians The MPD ought to be able to produce the evidence and facts to support their actions. Public protest is an attempt to make that happen in a timely fashion.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Omar is as off base about the MPD on this one aso Derec is in bringing in the victim's family's criminal records.

The distrust of the MPD by the minority communities (includes Native Americans) has been earned over the decades. Mr. Floyd's death at the hands of the MPD was the gasoline on the embers of that distrust. It will take years of work to regain it. Until then, expect distrust.

I think the family's criminal records are relevant here as they were being presented as a counter to a claim of being of good character.

Officer 1: We're in pursuit of a suspect, possibly armed.
Dispatch: Is his family of good character?
Officer 2: Inconclusive at the moment.
Dispatch: We'll go online to Facebook and check.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Omar is as off base about the MPD on this one aso Derec is in bringing in the victim's family's criminal records.

The distrust of the MPD by the minority communities (includes Native Americans) has been earned over the decades. Mr. Floyd's death at the hands of the MPD was the gasoline on the embers of that distrust. It will take years of work to regain it. Until then, expect distrust.

I think the family's criminal records are relevant here as they were being presented as a counter to a claim of being of good character.

Officer 1: We're in pursuit of a suspect, possibly armed.
Dispatch: Is his family of good character?
Officer 2: Inconclusive at the moment.
Dispatch: We'll go online to Facebook and check.

The claim was made afterwards, not during the pursuit.

 

[laughing dog]

Officer 1: We're in pursuit of a suspect, possibly armed.
Dispatch: Is his family of good character?
Officer 2: Inconclusive at the moment.
Dispatch: We'll go online to Facebook and check.

The claim was made afterwards, not during the pursuit.

Whenever the claim was made, the character of the alleged criminal is not found or made by the character of their family, hence the claim is ridiculous.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Officer 1: We're in pursuit of a suspect, possibly armed.
Dispatch: Is his family of good character?
Officer 2: Inconclusive at the moment.
Dispatch: We'll go online to Facebook and check.

The claim was made afterwards, not during the pursuit.

Of course, the claims of character are always made after the fact, which is odd when in lots of these situations such claims are used to justify action against people after the fact.

And then to use the character of other people, to justify an opinion on a third party? Typically, the first thing done by people is try to find embarrassing or disparaging material on the primary person of concern. So when that didn't work, they fan out, and find adjacent character damnation. Pathetic really.

 

[repoman]

I like the Black Power picture, inspiring really a role model for Whites to emulate.