Ted Cruz on Colorado Shooting: Blame the liberals . . . of course!

[credoconsolans]

You don't educate yourself with lying propaganda--and that's what they produce.

Your link reeks of desperation, and also fails to address the numerous videos. One hint of such red herring desperation is the self-serving outrage over covert recording of meetings, a common practice by journalists and lay people for decades. Then it is followed by rambling rage, attacking irrelevant distractions over surgical procedures and practices. Finally, the author uses the "how do we know" fallacy of the filming location (meaning she does not believe the makers, even if she has no evidence to the contrary).

Loren, I suggest you look at the lameness of such replies as emotion driven desperation. She knows that people subjectively are revolted by a trade in fetal body parts - a perfectly legitimate activity IF one truly believes them to be nothing more than surplus parts and tissue.

I consider myself 'pro-choice' up to 20 weeks, but I also admit I find this deeply disturbing.

Except so far, in several states, there has been at least two investigations by government agencies and they found no wrong-doing by Planned Parenthood. Apparently "all the videos" are less than convincing.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

You don't educate yourself with lying propaganda--and that's what they produce.

Your link reeks of desperation, and also fails to address the numerous videos. One hint of such red herring desperation is the self-serving outrage over covert recording of meetings, a common practice by journalists and lay people for decades. Then it is followed by rambling rage, attacking irrelevant distractions over surgical procedures and practices. Finally, the author uses the "how do we know" fallacy of the filming location (meaning she does not believe the makers, even if she has no evidence to the contrary).

Loren, I suggest you look at the lameness of such replies as emotion driven desperation. She knows that people subjectively are revolted by a trade in fetal body parts - a perfectly legitimate activity IF one truly believes them to be nothing more than surplus parts and tissue.

I consider myself 'pro-choice' up to 20 weeks, but I also admit I find this deeply disturbing.

I note that you didn't address the rebuttal link I posted.

They're lying. There's no point in paying any attention to them.

 

[fromderinside]

Loren, I suggest you look at the lameness of such replies as emotion driven desperation. She knows that people subjectively are revolted by a trade in fetal body parts - a perfectly legitimate activity IF one truly believes them to be nothing more than surplus parts and tissue.

Or put another way, "Loren Pechtel help me I'm melting, melting, melting ......."

 

[maxparrish]

Your link reeks of desperation, and also fails to address the numerous videos. One hint of such red herring desperation is the self-serving outrage over covert recording of meetings, a common practice by journalists and lay people for decades. Then it is followed by rambling rage, attacking irrelevant distractions over surgical procedures and practices. Finally, the author uses the "how do we know" fallacy of the filming location (meaning she does not believe the makers, even if she has no evidence to the contrary).

Loren, I suggest you look at the lameness of such replies as emotion driven desperation. She knows that people subjectively are revolted by a trade in fetal body parts - a perfectly legitimate activity IF one truly believes them to be nothing more than surplus parts and tissue.

I consider myself 'pro-choice' up to 20 weeks, but I also admit I find this deeply disturbing.

I note that you didn't address the rebuttal link I posted.

They're lying. There's no point in paying any attention to them.

Come now, such disingenuous Chutzpah does not become you. Surely, my address to your link did not elude you - nor the points (edit added numbers) made. Sigh:

Your link reeks of desperation, and also (1) fails to address the numerous videos. One hint of such red herring desperation is the self-serving outrage over covert recording of meetings, (2) a common practice by journalists and lay people for decades. (3) Then it is followed by rambling rage, attacking irrelevant distractions over surgical procedures and practices. (4) Finally, the author uses the "how do we know" fallacy of the filming location (meaning she does not believe the makers, even if she has no evidence to the contrary).

Loren, I suggest you look at the lameness of such replies as emotion driven desperation. She knows that people subjectively are revolted by a trade in fetal body parts - a perfectly legitimate activity IF one truly believes them to be nothing more than surplus parts and tissue.

Moreover, as for the Chutzpah, you have not addressed my links, or even your own link, with anything more than a cryptic "here's a link" and then a hand wave about "they're lying". So far you've been more than disingenuous and hypocritical, but stubbornly unserious.

If you want to be serious, demonstrate where in your 'link' it proves that the several videos were "lying". If you can't, so be it.

 

[maxparrish]

Your link reeks of desperation, and also fails to address the numerous videos. One hint of such red herring desperation is the self-serving outrage over covert recording of meetings, a common practice by journalists and lay people for decades. Then it is followed by rambling rage, attacking irrelevant distractions over surgical procedures and practices. Finally, the author uses the "how do we know" fallacy of the filming location (meaning she does not believe the makers, even if she has no evidence to the contrary).

Loren, I suggest you look at the lameness of such replies as emotion driven desperation. She knows that people subjectively are revolted by a trade in fetal body parts - a perfectly legitimate activity IF one truly believes them to be nothing more than surplus parts and tissue.

I consider myself 'pro-choice' up to 20 weeks, but I also admit I find this deeply disturbing.

Except so far, in several states, there has been at least two investigations by government agencies and they found no wrong-doing by Planned Parenthood. Apparently "all the videos" are less than convincing.

Except so far, I have not stated that they broke the law. I have stated that most of the inflammatory rhetoric by folks of stature slamming parenthood has not been factual lies, unlike the "hands up" meme. Whether or not they broke the law is a matter of opinion, not a factual dispute.

 

[laughing dog]

The center for medical progress is an anti-abortion organization. There is no reason to expect the purveyors of misleading videos to provide unedited video and the full context. Max, you used to better than this.

Ahhh, but there is no support of the videos being misleading without counterfactuals, i.e. without reference to the unedited video in its full context showing otherwise. But given that you don't trust their full video as evidence, because you "know" the edited videos to be misleading, on what basis do you know them to be misleading - other than the fact that they were recorded by an anti-abortion organization?

I had no idea about that organization until I looked it up. I gave a link to factcheckers that goes through the edited video and why it is disingenuous. You did not address anything in the link. Which leads a disinterested observer to reasonably conclude that
1) you are unable to rebut the content and conclusions contained in that link, or
2) you did not look at the link, or
3) you are illiterate, or
4) you are simply being disingenuous.

Really, the content and reason to rhetorical and ideological bullshit in your posts has fallen drastically. Are you well?

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Moreover, as for the Chutzpah, you have not addressed my links, or even your own link, with anything more than a cryptic "here's a link" and then a hand wave about "they're lying". So far you've been more than disingenuous and hypocritical, but stubbornly unserious.

If you want to be serious, demonstrate where in your 'link' it proves that the several videos were "lying". If you can't, so be it.

The link is a gynecologist (you know, the people who actually know how abortions are performed) who is explaining the video is not consistent with modern medical practice and also it shows a premature delivery, not an abortion.

Since they're lying about the video I see no reason to trust anything else they say, no matter how many videos they produce.

Note, also, that there have been multiple investigations into the allegations and they have come up empty. It's just bullshit to stir up the faithful, nothing more.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Except so far, in several states, there has been at least two investigations by government agencies and they found no wrong-doing by Planned Parenthood. Apparently "all the videos" are less than convincing.

Except so far, I have not stated that they broke the law. I have stated that most of the inflammatory rhetoric by folks of stature slamming parenthood has not been factual lies, unlike the "hands up" meme. Whether or not they broke the law is a matter of opinion, not a factual dispute.

What the videos allege would be breaking the law.