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The 100 Most Influential Figures in American History

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The 100 Most Influential Figures in American History

Here is the bottom ten. Click the link to get the top ninety ;)

100: Herman Melville
99: Richard Nixon
98: Booker T. Washington
97: Stephen Foster
96: Ralph Nader
95: Samuel Goldwyn
94: George Eastman
93: Nat Turner
92: John Steinbeck
91: Lyman Beecher

Who did they get right? Who did they miss? How well did they rank the ones they did pick?
 
I don't think JFK's omission is such a big deal, what did he ever accomplish besides a few memorable quotes?

... then again same could be said about many other people on the list.

Glad to see Woodrow Wilson rated relatively high.
 
I don't think JFK's omission is such a big deal, what did he ever accomplish besides a few memorable quotes?

... then again same could be said about many other people on the list.

Glad to see Woodrow Wilson rated relatively high.

Well, James Dean made three major Hollywood films and died. And he's an icon.

Kennedy isn't influential because he brought peace to the Middle East or anything like that. He's influential in his symbolism. He is for many, America's innocence lost. He is America's shining manhood cut down too soon.

Do I think He should have made the list? Perhaps. Perhaps not. But I get why people would feel strongly about him not making the list.
 
James Dean is not on the list either, is he?
 
I assume this is actually 'most influential americans'. Hitler was very influential in US history, but not in the way that seems to be being discussed. Similarly Fidel Castro, etc.
 
In 50 years, who do you think will make this list from our current crop of public figures?

I'd say Al Gore, Dick Cheney, Barack Obama, Ron Paul, and Jon Stewart will probably make it into the history books written about this generation.

As for the OP's list, I would have liked to see more artists and musicians. No Jimi Hendrix or Bob Dylan?
 
In 50 years, who do you think will make this list from our current crop of public figures?
Elon Musk (if he can qualify for the list), Bill Gates, that jackass who ran Apple, Alan Greenspan (maybe, for his role in helping to destroy the global economy), and the guy who invented OxyClean (the only invention from a commercial that actually worked!). Eric Snowden maybe, we'll see how all that finishes up. That was about as big a leak as it gets and Constitutional implications (despite Congress's apparent not giving a fuck about it) are of a historical nature. The Supreme Court as a single entity for their rulings that breathed life into non-anthropomorphic entities, cutting back on the voting rights act, and acting hesitantly on gay rights.

Despite being British, Steven Wilson, for helping the recording industry find another reason for getting music fans to buy albums for a fifth to a hundredth time, and injecting tons of money back into an industry milking their old catalog.

Charlie Rangel (NY) and William Jefferson (LA) for pushing the boundaries on what apparently is an acceptable amount of cronyism for a Representative.

And Trayvon Martin. The write up on him will be "The unarmed teen that was shot and killed that keeps getting brought up by conservatives every time a black gets shot by the cops".

I'd say Al Gore, Dick Cheney, Barack Obama, Ron Paul, and Jon Stewart will probably make it into the history books written about this generation.
Who? Cheney maybe due to badness the Neocons created (they may just be remembered as a monolithic group of idiots). Obama was hamstrung by the Republicans and despite great promises, we didn't see much change anywhere, other than getting the foreign policy voice back under control (W fucked up so bad they gave Obama a Peace Prize for crying outloud!). Obama won't get poor historical press because of handling of the Great Recession, no Obamavilles. I do suppose being the first somewhat black President is of some note, but accomplishment wise, he is somewhat tepid, in large part caused by unparalleled partisan garbage.

Jon Stewart won't be remembered. Virtually no one in the press has been remembered. Walter Winchell may be the only guy.

It occurs to me there isn't a woman in my list. I'll hat tip towards Ellen Degeneres. Great comic turn rights advocate for gays.
 
I don't think JFK's omission is such a big deal, what did he ever accomplish besides a few memorable quotes?

... then again same could be said about many other people on the list.

Glad to see Woodrow Wilson rated relatively high.

Well, James Dean made three major Hollywood films and died. And he's an icon.

Kennedy isn't influential because he brought peace to the Middle East or anything like that. He's influential in his symbolism. He is for many, America's innocence lost. He is America's shining manhood cut down too soon.

Do I think He should have made the list? Perhaps. Perhaps not. But I get why people would feel strongly about him not making the list.

The Cuban Missile Crises did not start WW III. That was largely JFK's doing. He deserves at least a mention.
 
Well, James Dean made three major Hollywood films and died. And he's an icon.

Kennedy isn't influential because he brought peace to the Middle East or anything like that. He's influential in his symbolism. He is for many, America's innocence lost. He is America's shining manhood cut down too soon.

Do I think He should have made the list? Perhaps. Perhaps not. But I get why people would feel strongly about him not making the list.

The Cuban Missile Crises did not start WW III. That was largely JFK's doing. He deserves at least a mention.
I thought about that too, but in my opinion "not starting WWIII" is not a positive achievement. I do it every day.
 
I'm pretty sure you don't daily stave off forces that are barreling along to an inevitable WW III shooting war.
 
In 50 years, who do you think will make this list from our current crop of public figures?

Barack Obama because he was a president (the folks who made the list had a thing for presidents apparently). Elon Musk for colonizing Mars, and later winning the war against Jupiter. Neil deGrasse Tyson for being the first black man in science. Matt Groening for creating the longest-running television franchise in history.
 
I thought about that too, but in my opinion "not starting WWIII" is not a positive achievement. I do it every day.
The list isn't for those with positive achievements, it's for those with the most influence, good or bad.
 
I thought about that too, but in my opinion "not starting WWIII" is not a positive achievement. I do it every day.
The list isn't for those with positive achievements, it's for those with the most influence, good or bad.
By positive I meant having some influence one way or the other, as opposed to just maintaining status quo. If Kennedy had started WW3 that might have earned him a spot on the list, but not starting one is hardly noteworthy.
 
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