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The Conservative Case for Universal Healthcare

Funny thing, if the repubs had the balls to defy their base and give them socialized healthcare, they'd reap all the benefits and be able to claim all the credit. The democrats would be left standing there looking stupid and kicking themselves in the pants, wishing they did it when they had the chance.

BUT

Because this reality sucks, and because they're all dumb as bricks this will never happen.
 
Funny thing, if the repubs had the balls to defy their base and give them socialized healthcare, they'd reap all the benefits and be able to claim all the credit. The democrats would be left standing there looking stupid and kicking themselves in the pants, wishing they did it when they had the chance.

BUT

Because this reality sucks, and because they're all dumb as bricks this will never happen.
Please. Is it necessary to disparage bricks?
 
I can't access the link. Could someone tell me what the conservative case is?

Don’t tell anyone, but American conservatives will soon be embracing single-payer healthcare, or some other form of socialized healthcare.

Yes, that’s a bold claim given that a GOP-controlled Congress and President are poised to un-socialize a great deal of healthcare, and may even pull it off. But within five years, plenty of Republicans will be loudly supporting or quietly assenting to universal Medicare.

And that’s a good thing, because socializing healthcare is the only demonstrably effective way to control costs and cover everyone. It results in a healthier country and it saves a ton of money.

That may seem offensively counterintuitive. It’s generally assumed that universal healthcare will by definition cost more.

In fact, in every first-world nation that has socialized medicine–whether it be a heavily regulated multi-insurer system like Germany, single-payer like Canada, or a purely socialized system like the United Kingdom–-it costs less. A lot, lot less, in fact: While healthcare eats up nearly 18 percent of U.S. GDP, for other nations, from Australia and Canada to Germany and Japan, the figure hovers around 11 percent. (It’s no wonder that smarter capitalists like Charlie Munger of Berkshire Hathaway are bemoaning the drag on U.S. firm competitiveness from high healthcare costs.) Nor are healthcare results in America anything to brag about: lower life expectancy, higher infant mortality and poor scores on a wide range of important public health indicators.

Most of the argument.
 
If anything, they understate the savings.

I read a McKinsey Group study* where they estimated that it costs providers in the US about 400 billion dollars a year to confirm coverage and to argue with the insurance companies over payment. This was in 2007 or so.

* I couldn't find the study on their web site. I was a client of McKinsey when I was reviewing compensation across the various countries that my company operated in. It could have been a study circulated only to clients.

They demurred on estimating how much it costs the government to regulate the insurance companies because so much of it is scattered to the states to do, but they said that it had to be tens of billions a year.

The biggest problem that I can see standing in the way of conservatives adopting single payer is that all of this inefficiency in the current health care system translates into hundreds of thousands of jobs that would be lost. Compare this to the thousands of jobs that conservatives want to preserve, by the highest estimate, that an increase in the minimum wage would cost the country. It is sure to put them in the streets protesting to maintain this inefficiency in the system and the resulting loss of competitiveness for the US in international trade.
 
Funny thing, if the repubs had the balls to defy their base and give them socialized healthcare, they'd reap all the benefits and be able to claim all the credit. The democrats would be left standing there looking stupid and kicking themselves in the pants, wishing they did it when they had the chance.

BUT

Because this reality sucks, and because they're all dumb as bricks this will never happen.

I think it is truly wonderful that conservatives, of all people, should leave reality behind and live in a drugged-up fantasy-world. You can usually rely on such people to lie to others but be very exact about cash returns. Heil Trump! When I was active in the Struggle, I was advised by the leadership to read the Financial Times if I wanted to know about tory economics, since they lied about everything else, never money. As I grow older I compromise on the Economist, but it is getting more and more propagandist and silly.
 
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The biggest problem that I can see standing in the way of conservatives adopting single payer is that all of this inefficiency in the current health care system translates into hundreds of thousands of jobs that would be lost. Compare this to the thousands of jobs that conservatives want to preserve, by the highest estimate, that an increase in the minimum wage would cost the country. It is sure to put them in the streets protesting to maintain this inefficiency in the system and the resulting loss of competitiveness for the US in international trade.
That will not be a problem because costs will not go down owing to the efficiency of lobbyists and the corruption of congresscritters. When the ACA passed all of a sudden I'm inundated with shit about staying healthy that I don't need, little emails, fliers, things through my employer. Instead of lowering premiums the insurers simply added jobs and obviously lied about the costs of those extra services so they could continue to profit enormously. I want health insurance. I don't want to know about seasonal allergies and how to stay hydrated. Give me a fucking break.
 
The article is an interesting argument, but I still find it hard to fathom such a turnabout by the Repugs. I guess there is a small chance that the smallish non-right wing portion of the Repugs could come around and join the Dums on it. I could especially see this happening if the Repugs and Don the Con are able cause enough damage in the next couple years. And I don't see them getting ahead of the Dums on the issue.
 
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