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The cop-killer Mexican featured in Trump's political ad entered America under the Bush administration

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https://www.thedailybeast.com/luis-...ter-video-actually-came-back-to-us-under-bush

So the Mexican cop-killer featured in Trump's racist attack ad was actually let into the country during the Darth Jar-Jar administration, so if you don't want cop-killer Mexicans to enter the country, you'd better vote against every single Republican, because they want to let cop-killer Mexicans into the country!

Why do stupidity and racism so frequently go together?

Trigger Warning: I deeply apologize to anyone who is offended because I called that attack ad racist just because it is in fact racist. Clearly I'm the "real racist" for complaining about racism. I'm guilty of White Genocide!
 
It doesn't really matter when this murderer reentered US illegally. What matters is that present day Democrats are rather pro-illegal, supporting so-called sanctuary cities that protect even felonious illegals from deportation. The murderer of Kate Steinle was a felon and an illegal, but San Francisco authorities released him instead of transferring him to ICE custody because SF is a sanctuary city.
And Democrats also support this caravan of illegals even though we know there are many people in it that have already been deported.

Trigger Warning: I deeply apologize to anyone who is offended because I called that attack ad racist just because it is in fact racist.
Ridiculous Underseer is being ridiculous. What "racism"? "Illegal" is not a race. And Luis Bracamontes is so light skinned that had he killed a black teenager instead of two police officers, you'd be calling him "white".
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I mean, he looks just like Michael Ballack ...
 
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It doesn't really matter when this murderer reentered US illegally. What matters is that present day Democrats are rather pro-illegal, supporting so-called sanctuary cities that protect even felonious illegals from deportation. Also they support this caravan of illegals even though we know there are people in it that have already been deported.

Did Brietbart feed you that bullshit?

Many Democrats support allowing the members of the caravan to apply for asylum according to our laws and have their case fairly considered, as well as treat them humanely throughout the proceeding. Trump and many Republicians want to break our laws, and you as well, and deny them that opportunity.

Democrats also generally support preventing people from entering the country illegally and are also fine with deporting illegals with a criminal record, as the record of the Obama administration clearly demonstrates. You do realize Obama is still extremely popular among Democrats, right? And no, failure to support Trump's insane and idoitic wall does not mean one is pro illegal immigrant.

How many people have been deported under Obama?

President Barack Obama has often been referred to by immigration groups as the "Deporter in Chief."
Between 2009 and 2015 his administration has removed more than 2.5 million people through immigration orders, which doesn’t include the number of people who "self-deported" or were turned away and/or returned to their home country at the border by U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP).

How does he compare to other presidents?

According to governmental data, the Obama administration has deported more people than any other president's administration in history.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/abcnew...-deportation-policy-numbers/story?id=41715661
 
Did Brietbart feed you that bullshit?
Nope. Did DailyKos tell you?

Many Democrats support allowing the members of the caravan to apply for asylum according to our laws and have their case fairly considered, as well as treat them humanely throughout the proceeding.
Several problems with that.
1. Most, if not all are economic migrants.
2. Sure, many Democrats want that. But many others want to let even the economic migrants in. Even some people on this forum have expressed such opinions.
3. Legitimate asylum seekers, if there are any, could put in the application at a consulate or embassy. They want to enter the US so they can disappear into a sanctuary city or state once their bogus asylum gets denied.

Trump and many Republicians want to break our laws, and you as well, and deny them that opportunity.
What laws are broken if economic migrants, who wish to defraud the asylum system, are denied that opportunity.
CNN loves to propagandize about the Caravan, but even they end up revealing the truth.
We have nothing to fear from the migrant march
CNN said:
Ernesto had recently lost his job and Yesenia was unemployed, and they were afraid of not being able to provide basic necessities for their daughters. Although the couple admitted that it had been difficult to read the news that President Donald Trump would send troops to the border, they hoped to request asylum in the US and prayed that God would help the President understand the hardships they had lived through.
Being unemployed is not grounds for asylum, and yet this couple wants to seek it anyway. That's fraud.
They were not -- in fact, they were representative of the roughly 3,500 migrants of the caravan, of which an estimated 2,300 are children, according to UNICEF.
Fine piece of bamboozling. Take the lowest estimate of caravan size, and highest estimate of the number of minors within it, to erroneously suggest that the majority are minors. :rolleyes:
Kayla, like so many others in the caravan, wanted to escape extreme poverty and a country in which daughters like her own were often forced to quit elementary school to work and help support the family.
Also not grounds for asylum.
Paola, 22, a single mother, had traveled from San Pedro Sula, Honduras with her sons age 2 and 3. She left Honduras because she wanted to be able to offer her sons a better life, one in which violent gangs like MS-13 were not a part of their daily reality. Her mother lived in Canada and she hoped to start a new life there.
It's illegal migrants from El Salvador that created MS-13 to begin with.
Their family was among many migrants propelled to move by climate change. They had sold everything except her child's clothes to have money for the journey. They wanted to request asylum in the US, but their dream was to one day return to Tegucigalpa, Honduras and build a house.
Another economic migrant family that wants to fraudulently claim asylum.

Democrats also generally support preventing people from entering the country illegally and are also fine with deporting illegals with a criminal record, as the record of the Obama administration clearly demonstrates.
Obama did some good on deportation front (and made some mistakes as well), but this is no longer Obama's Democratic Party. It is more left-wing, more pro-illegal. The whole point of sanctuary cities is to protect illegals . And since the sanctuary extends to county jails, that protects criminal illegals as well. Sanctuary cities need to go!
Also, many new-Dems have been calling for abolishing ICE.

And no, failure to support Trump's insane and idoitic wall does not mean one is pro illegal immigrant.
Why is the wall idiotic? It is not the only thing we must do - we must make it difficult to fucntion in the US as an illegal which means e-verify and no driver's licences for illegals. But securing the actual border is important as well.
 
In this thread I learned that applying for asylum is ≡ to being granted asylum. And that the '67 treaty obligations apparently allow for adjudication before the asylum application.
 
Several problems with that.
1. Most, if not all are economic migrants.
How do you KNOW most are economic migrants? And why does it matter if they are economic migrants? Doesn't the US let economic migrants in?
 
In this thread I learned that applying for asylum is ≡ to being granted asylum. And that the '67 treaty obligations apparently allow for adjudication before the asylum application.
That is why you keep coming back here. ;)

And to add to your education, applying for asylum at the border automatically equates that person to becoming a criminal, also very possibly packing a fetus, which is also very unethical!
 
How do you KNOW most are economic migrants?
Their own words. Even pro-caravan articles that interview these migrants usually find people who list loss of jobs or low wages as reason for joining the caravan. Of course, they still plan on seeking asylum.
It's like in Europe where you have 100s of 1000s of mass migrants (vast majority Islamic) coming as economic migrats but still seeking asylum because that allows them to stay in Germany or Sweden for years even if their asylum case is rejected.

And why does it matter if they are economic migrants?
It matters a lot, because the apologetics is that they must be let in because they are "asylum seekers" and "refugees".

Doesn't the US let economic migrants in?
We have enough legal immigrants. No need to let in random caravans of often violent people in just because they demand it. We do not have, not should we have, open borders.
 
In this thread I learned that applying for asylum is ≡ to being granted asylum. And that the '67 treaty obligations apparently allow for adjudication before the asylum application.
Well applying for asylum allows you to stay in the country for years while the case is adjudicated. And there is a whole industry around coaching people into lying for asylum. And if their asylum claim gets rejected, they are in US already, possibly with a few anchor babies already born in US soil, and able to live without fear of deportation in one of our sanctuary cities or states.

It's a racket, just like it happening in Europe with Islamic "asylum seekers".

Even pro-caravan article have stories of people who are clearly economic migrants who nevertheless plan to seek asylum fraudulently.
 
Their own words....
Bullshit. Comments from a couple of people out of a large group does not mean "most". And many times, these migrants have multiple reasons for leaving their country.
It matters a lot, because the apologetics is that they must be let in because they are "asylum seekers" and "refugees".
More bullshit.

We have enough legal immigrants.
Until you prove it, that is simply more bullshit.
 
I read a few articles that said that this add and others that use fear are pushing moderate Republicans to vote Democrat in the midterms. I think a lot of the saner Republicans have had enough with these unsubstantiated fear tactics that the crazy right is using. Could be.
 
I read a few articles that said that this add and others that use fear are pushing moderate Republicans to vote Democrat in the midterms. I think a lot of the saner Republicans have had enough with these unsubstantiated fear tactics that the crazy right is using. Could be.
That would be unfortunate. More immigration enforcement is one of the few good ideas of the Trumpist Republican Party.
 
Bullshit. Comments from a couple of people out of a large group does not mean "most". And many times, these migrants have multiple reasons for leaving their country.
More bullshit.
Remember, these are pro-caravan reports and articles. If they could find people who were not migrating for economic reasons they would have profiled them, not the economic migrants.
I watched a video by BBC I think (the presenter had a British accent) where he was on about them "fleeing violence" but then the people they interviewed all focused on job and money. It is obvious that the media is pushing a particular narrative here. Like calling all mass Muslim migrants to Europe "refugees".

Until you prove it, that is simply more bullshit.
Table 1. Persons Obtaining Lawful Permanent Resident Status: Fiscal Years 1820 to 2017
 
US has to take people from countries they messed up and US messed Central America up real good.
 
Remember, these are pro-caravan reports and articles. If they could find people who were not migrating for economic reasons they would have profiled them, not the economic migrants.
Even more bullshit. You have absolutely no evidence to support your claim that most of the people in this caravan are solely economic migrants. Your inferences are not evidence of the facts.
Hurling numbers is even more bullshit. That does not prove we have enough of anything.
 
The Cop killer at the heart of Trump's racist ad was set free—by Arizona sheriff Joe Arpaio

And Derec is defending him....

......

But as it turns out, it’s not just racism. It’s also a complete lie. As reported by the Washington Post, the ad opens with the horrific words of violent murderer Luis Bracamontes who bragged of his killings at trial and threatened to kill more.


“Democrats let him into our country,” the ad’s script reads. “Democrats let him stay.”


Just one problem: It doesn’t appear to be true.


As it turns out, Bracamontes did enter the country at least three times. And was deported twice. Then he got back in during the Bush administration and … he stayed. He got married in 2002 and lived in both Arizona and Utah. The killer went on to live in the US for thirteen years before the meth-related killings in 2014.


But that’s not the worst part. In Bracamontes was picked up on drug charges in Phoenix and turned over to Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio. Trump’s “tough, tough” friend, Joe Arpaio. Joe Arpaio, the guy who Trump pardoned for refusing a court order.


Turns out, it was just Trump passing along a favor. Because Arpaio was also in a forgiving mood when he had Bracamontes in custody. Despite repeat drug charges and being in the country without documentation, Arpaio released Bracamontes “for reasons unknown.”


https://www.dailykos.com/stories/20...ad-was-set-free-by-Arizona-sheriff-Joe-Arpaio
 
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