The Dems should not try to stop unpopular MAGA policies

[Derec]

What I find the most outrageous about the crime issue is that crime went up under Trump. Yet, Biden gets the blame.

I do not think that it is Biden that got the blame, but Democrats in general. Too many Dems (including Kamala Harris) flirted with the whole "defund police" nonsense. You had fauxgressive DAs elected who pushed soft-on-crime policies. I am talking about people like Chesa Boudin, George Gascon or Alvin Bragg. Bragg infamously downgraded felony armed robberies to misdemeanor petit thefts. NYC mayor BdB reduced NYPD funding by a billion (and it still did not go too far enough for AOC).
Ocasio-Cortez dismisses proposed $1B cut: ‘Defunding police means defunding police’
You had thieves steal over and over again only to be released time after time. That foments a culture of lawlessness.

Crime dropped, drug deaths dropped under Biden.

1. Local politicians have much bigger influence on crime than presidents.
2. Most (if not all) of this was a regression toward the mean after the Pandemic spike
3. Some of it is probably due to juking the stats, like Bragg's downgrading robberies to thefts.

But someone saw something on TikTok about Home Depot being burgled. Petty theft is up at stores. And people equated that to anarchy.

It is anarchy when it happens over and over again, with little to nothing happening to the offenders.
Repeat offender arrested 6 times this year released without bail, frustrating NYPD leaders

NYPD leaders are speaking out after a repeat offender who’s already been arrested six times this year was released without bail after his most recent arrest.
Rudell Faulkner has “47 priors and 28 convictions for preying on New Yorkers” in the streets and transit system, NYPD Chief of Patrol John Chell said.
“He was arrested again last week for jumping the [turnstile] in possession of felony narcotics and was charged with an additional grand larceny against a 56-year-old woman who was going about her daily business, marking his sixth arrest this year, with four being felonies,” Chell said.
[...]
Chell said the district attorney asked for bail to be set at $10,000 cash or $30,000 bond, but the judge in the case let Faulkner go free.
“New Yorkers are tired of this,” Chell said. “Everyone do their job, and we’ll have a better outcome.”

In this case, even the DA wanted bail, but the judge released the perp without bail. Since this is hardly a one-off, criminals see that they can offend over and over again and be let go every time. And the regular people lose faith in their institutions such as courts, as well as in the Democratic Party to whom these soft-on-crime officials usually belong to.

Note also that this Faulkner gut preyed on people in the transit system. Same transit system where Daniel Penny defended his fellow straphangers from Jordan Neely, who himself had an extensive criminal record that includes assaulting several people but was not incarcerated. Instead, Alvin Bragg is going balls to the walls to railroad Penny for Neely's accidental death.

It is hardly a wonder that there was a huge shift away from Dems in NY, and especially NYC.

This map shows the Δ. The more red, the more Trump gained vs. 2020. As you can see, only one upstate county (Yates) swung blue, while NYC and suburbs swung red by a lot.

 

[robnisch]

Soft on crime?

Judge agrees to dismiss Donald Trump's 2020 election interference case

President-elect Trump faced charges over his handling of classified documents and his efforts to overturn his 2020 election loss, which culminated in the U.S. Capitol attack.

www.nbcnews.com

 

[ZiprHead]

Should Biden preemptively pardon a crap ton of people in the Justice department and elsewhere?

 

[southernhybrid]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/t...arts-comparing-us-border-security/ar-BB1i6LeM

Okay, more came in under Biden, but Biden sent more back compared to Trump. Plus, the sudden rise in numbers started while Trump was still in office if you look at the charts in my link, so I doubt it was all due to Biden. And as you know, the damn Republicans refused to pass the legislation that would have made it easier to protect the border.

My main argument is that these Trump supporters think that most of these immigrants are criminals when nothing could be further from the truth. Sure, there have been a few who committed violent crimes but immigrants are less likely to commit crimes compared to American citizens. I assume that during the Biden administration more people from a large number of countries were desperate to leave their own countries due to things like climate change and if you consider that Haiti is a failed state that is run by violent gangs, it's easy to understand why they were looking for an option.

We need more immigrants not fewer. I know you disagree, but immigrants do a lot of important jobs, from nursing to farm work, and who the fuck do you think is willing to put a roof on, other than immigrants. I've had 2 roofs put on my current home and it was always done by immigrants. I hope you don't like eating in Mexican restaurants because a lot of the workers are undocumented. I knew one personally. They also do a lot of construction work that most Americans won't do. So, okay. YOu're right that the actual numbers were higher under Biden, but the misinformation is that a lot of these people are harmful. If it was easier to come here legally, things would be much better.

In the year after Title 42 ended in May 2023, Biden officials deported or returned roughly 740,000 people to Mexico and other countries, more than any year since 2010, according to the Department of Homeland Security.




That means Biden’s removals also exceed Trump’s totals, which averaged roughly 500,000 annually.

Biden’s higher numbers are partly the result of a much greater volume of illegal crossings.

Trump implemented the Title 42 policy at the beginning of the coronavirus pandemic in March 2020 to rapidly expel border crossers without giving them a chance to seek U.S. protection. Unlawful border crossings plunged as global travel stalled. Most of those who crossed were quickly expelled.

Biden kept the policy in place and ended up expelling five times as many border-crossers than Trump did, mainly because more migrants attempted to enter the United States, drawn in part by plentiful jobs.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

It isn't. There has definitely been a spike under Biden.

And deportations are down.

You say deportations are down but your own data shows expulsions are up. It looks very much like a matter of labels rather than reality.

Note, also, that under The Felon people feared having their kids permanently taken and thus there was more fear of encounters. Thus this proves nothing about how many people crossed.

We can say a lot of bad things about Trump, but we should not make stuff up. When we do, people do not believe us even for things where Trump really performs badly. That was one of the things that helped Trump get reelected. Many people did not believe stuff said about Trump, because they lost trust in mainstream media, and some of it is media's own doing.

This election was about disinformation. The facts are irrelevant. And people didn't lose trust in the mainstream media because of anything they did. Rather, people chose the firehose of simple-answer disinformation spewed by the right.