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What part of Trump did Ailes kiss?
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Trump supporters are choosing him over Fox. Trump is the truth, Fox is just as bad as MSNBC sometimes.
We are experiencing some trippy ass shit this primary season. When the guy who runs Fox calls you, a person who lambasted the network and its workers, to patch things up... we know we are in unchartered territory.
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They will be more subtle in their undercutting of trump now.
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Fox didn't make Trump though. They helped make the idiots that are the 25% and are supporting him, even after his rather remarkable late night Twitter comments against Kelly.
Makes me think of the Clinton commercial.
The phone rings in the middle of the night, will your candidate pick up the phone? *Shows Trump in bed, sending a tweet disparaging ISIS.*
Right, and I was talking about the Trump supporters in my post, not Trump himself.
And it's 25%, or whatever, so far.
braces_for_impact
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I think people are making this to be about Trump when it really isn't. FOX has spent decades nurturing fear, racism, anger, and American exceptionalism. They have scraped to the very bottom of the barrel in their attempt to push the Republican agenda of big business forward at every opportunity. Now, just when it seems that they're at the zenith of their power, with the ability to actually determine who should run for President on the GOP ticket by denying or granting access to the debate stage at their whim, the monster they created has turned on them and is attacking viciously. Trump is only special in that he's incredibly obnoxious, narcissistic, and thin-skinned; he shows such over the top Dunning-Kreuger that he is not able to be controlled like the other candidates.
It's actually entertaining in a sick sort of way, and really goes to show how one dimensional the GOP ticket is. He is unelectable nationally, or he could run third party - either way the Republicans lose. Their only comfort will be in using him as a scapegoat later on, much like they blamed Perot for their loss to Clinton, even though exit polls showed clearly that Perot drew votes away from both candidates, and perhaps even a little more from Clinton. The bubble FOX has created is their own undoing. They live in this bubble, they breathe it in, and they acknowledge no other narrative. This was why they were so shocked when Romney had his ass handed to him, and why they're caught so flat footed and ineffectual now.
It's actually entertaining in a sick sort of way, and really goes to show how one dimensional the GOP ticket is. He is unelectable nationally, or he could run third party - either way the Republicans lose. Their only comfort will be in using him as a scapegoat later on, much like they blamed Perot for their loss to Clinton, even though exit polls showed clearly that Perot drew votes away from both candidates, and perhaps even a little more from Clinton. The bubble FOX has created is their own undoing. They live in this bubble, they breathe it in, and they acknowledge no other narrative. This was why they were so shocked when Romney had his ass handed to him, and why they're caught so flat footed and ineffectual now.
Just how unelectable is Trump? There is no chance he could win a general election? Remember, Shrub Bush won two of those. Trump is loud and obnoxious enough to get a lot of people excited and out to vote, be it for him or against him. At least he'll get the voter turn out really high, yes?
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He is getting trounced in the General Election polls. Bernie Sanders, a man with virtually no name recognition among the typical voter is beating Trump.
Trump is exciting an acute portion of the general electorate, the conservative toddler. The comment he made about Kelly bleeding from whatever would have immediately killed him from the Democrat side. And those comments is his electoral platform.
He has no ideas. He has no plans. He hasn't a single detail. He has no shot.
He turns off way more people than he turns on. There is zero chance of him actually getting elected. You can laugh at him without the need for worry.
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Bush had his father's political machine and the Republican grandees behind him. Trump has his mouth and his money. He is busy alienating the Republican grandees. So, I doubt he will get the Republican nomination.
Moreover, if he thinks being POTUS is like being a CEO, he is sadly mistaken. I would hope he is smart enough to figure that out - that he cannot just fire or browbeat anyone who disagrees or disappoints him - and leaves the race with some face left.
But my dream is that Trump gets the Republican nomination and leads the Republicans to an election disaster. Then just maybe there will be partisan campaign finance reform.
Another good result of that would be that a large segment of the right would stay home in protest and the left would come out in droves just to make sure he didn't get in. The Dems would take back the House and the Senate in a landslide.
Also, you'd have a few more months of Trump in the race and that's incomparable entertainment.
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One day, the debates will get smaller and Trump will need answers to policy questions. His inadequacies are being protected by the anonymity of 17 people running for one position.
The question is how does Bush deal. He hasn't been doing well, but still remains second in most polls. Is he still the main establishment pick?
The question is how does Bush deal. He hasn't been doing well, but still remains second in most polls. Is he still the main establishment pick?
What do you mean "anonymity"? There might be 15 people running who are basically anonymous, but Trump is the central focus of the GOP campaign. He'll basically ignore policy questions by giving a shallow and vacuous non-answer and then insult someone and any complaints by the media about this will be responded to by railing against the PC establishment who can't handle a straight shooter that speaks his mind and doesn't buy into the notion that they're the ones who should be setting the agenda for the election. Then he'll insult somebody again and go off on a weird rant about something or another.
Bush does seem to be the main establishment candidate. I have no idea if he's doing anything. He may be taking the position that it's useless to do much while Trump is sucking all of the oxygen out of the room and is just keeping things low key for now and trying to look sane by not doing anything stupid and just waiting until this part of the freakshow leaves town. Engaging Trump and getting drawn into the crazy would only hurt him. The rest of the pack needs to do something like that to try and break out and become a viable candidate, but Bush is already there and his best bet is to sit back and hope that Trump flames out and then come in saying "OK, if we can be serious now ...". The main question is how long does he wait and what does he do if Trump ends up having legs for longer than he expects him to.
braces_for_impact
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The real fun would be watching him debate Hillary or especially Bernie. Talk about going to a battle of wits unarmed!
The funnier thing would be watching Hillary have to debate him. She'll want to look like a serious and viable candidate for President but, at the same time, she'll need to make a response to whatever it was that Trump said. Those aren't two things that can easily be done at the same time.
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I look at Trump this way
There was a time in this country when the idea of electing an actor to be Governor of California or POTUS were just as far fetched.
Nobody ever went broke underestimating the taste of the American public.
H. L. Mencken
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There was a time in this country when the idea of electing an actor to be Governor of California or POTUS were just as far fetched.
Nobody ever went broke underestimating the taste of the American public.
H. L. Mencken
Read more at http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/h/hlmencke137243.html#BhBImIQFobZOVwDL.99
Not similar situations. The American public has judged Trump and they've judged him negatively. He's not going to change over the next year and they're not going to suddenly reevaluate him positively. He doesn't have any appeal outside of the crazy side of the GOP base and that's not going to expand.
In a perfect world, that would be enough to win him the nomination and keep the crazy train rolling but even that's a long shot. I understand that you're really only a bunch of Americans and not a whole lot can be expected from you but the subset of your population who thinks it's funny to shoot yourself in the face for shits and giggles doesn't add up to an electoral mandate under any type of situation.
Now, if Trump is the candidate, Clinton might finally get around to admitting that she flew to Benghazi on batwings to personally slice the US Ambassador's throat just for the sake of evil because she wants to make it somewhat competitive, but even that wouldn't do it. There is absolutely no risk of Trump becoming your next President, so you can feel free to just laugh and not have any kind of worry.