The party of free speech strikes again by ordering tv stations to remove abortion ad

[Axulus]

The state’s health department, part of the administration of Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis, told TV stations earlier this month to stop airing the commercial, asserting that it was false and dangerous and that keeping it running could result in criminal proceedings.

Abortion rights group sues after Florida orders TV stations to stop airing ad

A group campaigning for a Florida abortion-rights measure is suing state officials over their order to TV stations to stop airing one ad.

apnews.com

The MAGA snowflakes constantly whine about their speech being censored, meanwhile MAGA diehard DeSantis is actively using government power to stop speech he doesn't like

 

[Coleman Smith]

I am prochoice but believe that if abortion is illegal in the state then it hsould be illegal for the TV statins to advertise it on the same grounds that is illegal for TV stations to adverise for illegal drugs or hitmen.

 

[Axulus]

I am prochoice but believe that if abortion is illegal in the state then it hsould be illegal for the TV statins to advertise it on the same grounds that is illegal for TV stations to adverise for illegal drugs or hitmen.

It was a yes on Florida Amendment 4 ad, the amendment that guarantees access to abortion until fetal viability. Not an ad offering abortion services.

 

[laughing dog]

How isn't that government order an obvious violation of the 1st amendment?

 

[Elixir]

How isn't that government order an obvious violation of the 1st amendment?

Who says it isn’t?
Better question - does Goobernator Rhonda give a damn?

 

[Loren Pechtel]

I am prochoice but believe that if abortion is illegal in the state then it hsould be illegal for the TV statins to advertise it on the same grounds that is illegal for TV stations to adverise for illegal drugs or hitmen.

This was not an ad for abortions. This was an ad for a ballot measure that would make them legal. A political position, not an illegal product.

And is there actually any law against running an ad for an illegal product? We frequently have an ad truck driving around town advertising hot babes direct to you. While there is a veneer of pretending they are outcall nude dancers said veneer is pretty thin. I have also seen a billboard once. There is little doubt as to the product advertised, with the billboard it clearly was a fairly large company involved. Note that prostitution is not legal here. And there used to be (I believe it's gone now) a strip club that was even more explicit in their advertising--no veneer, the service offered included transportation to a legal brothel across the county line. Legal where performed, not legal where the ads ran.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

How isn't that government order an obvious violation of the 1st amendment?

The MAGAs view the Constitution as toilet paper.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

I am prochoice but believe that if abortion is illegal in the state then it hsould be illegal for the TV statins to advertise it on the same grounds that is illegal for TV stations to adverise for illegal drugs or hitmen.

The act of voting is not against the law and the ads are about voting. Additionally, it'd be near impossible to advertise changes to Legislation or the Constitution because those things would be outside the existing bounds.

 

[Axulus]

Judge blocks Florida's order:

“To keep it simple for the state of Florida: It’s the First Amendment, stupid,” Chief U.S. District Judge Mark E. Walker of the Northern District of Florida wrote on Thursday as he granted a restraining order against the surgeon general.

‘It’s the First Amendment, stupid’: Federal judge blocks state from threatening TV stations over Amendment 4 ad

The Florida Department of Health is barred from going after local television stations for airing a pro abortion rights ad.

www.news4jax.com

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

I was thinking the abortion referendum was going to put Florida into contention, but looking at the polls, Jebus... does Desantis ever have his claws in the Cuban Americans.

 

[Derec]

Who could have predicted that Dems flirting with socialism would put off those who had to live under the actually existing version of it?

 

[TomC]

Who could have predicted that Dems flirting with socialism would put off those who had to live under the actually existing version of it?

This is kinda ridiculous dude.
From SSI to the highway system, the USA has been more than flirting with socialism for decades. Socialism Made America Great in the first place.
Pre-socialist America, the 30s, is often referred to The Great Depression.
Tom

 

[Derec]

Public services ≠ socialism.

Socialism is an economic system where public/state ownership of means of production is dominant.

How socialism is working out in Cuba in practice:
Cuba's power grid fails, plunging country into darkness

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Who could have predicted that Dems flirting with socialism would put off those who had to live under the actually existing version of it?

Flirting with Socialism? Like Social Security, ACA, minimum wage, OSHA, public utilities... or are you talking about the Government taking over the means of production? What Democrat with an inch of power has suggesting taking over the Oil Companies or the Automotive Industry?

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Public services ≠ socialism.

Socialism is an economic system where public/state ownership of means of production is dominant.

How socialism is working out in Cuba in practice:
Cuba's power grid fails, plunging country into darkness

Funny, in the blackout back in 2003, the local city power utility had power, meanwhile, the remainder of Ohio Edison power supplied NE Ohio was dark... and it was Ohio Edison's line that started the cascade.

 

[Elixir]

What Democrat with an inch of power has suggesting taking over the Oil Companies or the Automotive Industry?

{Starts to raise hand}
Damn! Just short of an inch.
And not a real democrat.

 

[laughing dog]

Who could have predicted that Dems flirting with socialism would put off those who had to live under the actually existing version of it?

Are you currently member of or have you ever been a member of the John Birch Society?

 

[Derec]

Flirting with Socialism? Like Social Security, ACA, minimum wage, OSHA, public utilities...

Not this shit again! None of these things are socialism.

or are you talking about the Government taking over the means of production?

Many Democrats are also members of Democratic Socialists of America, which opposes for-profit businesses and advocates for public control of means of production.

We are socialists because we reject an economic order based on private profit, alienated labor, gross inequalities of wealth and power, discrimination based on race, gender identity, sexual orientation, disability status, age, religion, and national origin, and brutality and violence in defense of the status quo. We are socialists because we share a vision of a humane social order based on popular control of resources and production, economic planning, equitable distribution, feminism, racial equality, and non-oppressive relationships.

DSA Constitution & Bylaws

What Democrat with an inch of power has suggesting taking over the Oil Companies or the Automotive Industry?

Tom Nelson, a Wisconsin Democrat who ran for US Senate in 2022 has suggested that.
Opinion | Tom Nelson: Let's nationalize the oil industry

So have writers for The American Prospect, Jacobin, The Hill as well as at least one CUNY academic.

 

[Derec]

Funny, in the blackout back in 2003, the local city power utility had power, meanwhile, the remainder of Ohio Edison power supplied NE Ohio was dark... and it was Ohio Edison's line that started the cascade.

That was a grid failure due to a cascading power surge. It was also >20 years ago, and it was relatively quickly fixed.

Are you really going to compare it to a power failure due to things like crumbling infrastructure?

Prime Minister Manuel Marrero late on Thursday blamed worsening blackouts during the past several weeks on a perfect storm well-known to most Cubans - deteriorating infrastructure, fuel shortages and rising demand.

It is also an ongoing problem:

The blackout marks a new low point on an island where life has become increasingly unbearable, with residents already suffering from shortages of food, fuel, water and medicine.
The electricity shortages had already prompted officials to cancel all non-vital government services on Friday. Schools, including universities, were shuttered through Sunday. Recreational and cultural activities, including night clubs, were also ordered closed.
[...]
“We went to a restaurant and they had no food because there was no power, now we are also without internet," said Brazilian tourist Carlos Roberto Julio, who had recently arrived in Havana. "In two days, we have already had several problems.”

Also, Venezuela, their main papá de azúcar is in dire straits itself leading to fuel shortages.

While demand for electricity has grown alongside Cuba's private sector, fuel supply has evaporated.
Cuba's largest oil supplier, Venezuela, has reduced shipments to the island to an average of 32,600 barrels per day in the first nine months of the year, about half of the 60,000 bpd sent in the same period of 2023, according to vessel-monitoring data and internal shipping documents from Venezuela's state company PDVSA.
PDVSA, whose refining infrastructure is also ailing, has this year tried to avoid a new wave of fuel scarcity at home, leaving smaller volumes available for export to allied countries like Cuba.
Russia and Mexico, which in the past have sent fuel to Cuba, have also greatly reduced shipments to the island.
The shortfalls have left Cuba to fend for itself on the far costlier spot market at a time when its government is near-bankrupt.

¡Viva el socialismo!

 

[Derec]

Are you currently member of or have you ever been a member of the John Birch Society?

No. While I support their anti-communism, I reject their social conservatism. I am a social libertarian.