The viability of Noam Chomsky's political philosophy?

[fromderinside]

Still, I do not detect much clamoring for whatever this thing that must not be labeled is.

Most political policy is like that. There's very little clamouring for the principle of smaller government, despite it being regular battle cry of the right. Chomsky's ideas are more a political notion than a populist one. It's been very influential on the left though.

I'm thinking it influential to the left who are admirers of people like Truman Capote and Noam Chomsky just as those on the right of this sort are admirers of Ayn Rand and Paul Ryan. The Communists and Ridiculous if you will. They are only dangerous if their admirers produce actionable legislation. Beware left, the end is near*.

*_{^{paraphrased from "On the Beach"}}

 

[untermensche]

I'm not impressed. Noam Chomsky proposes essentially a society of virtuous anarchists. He does not seem to have concerned himself with actually starting his kind of society, however.

He's addressed this many times.

It seems to be the last refuge of people who refuse to hear a word he says.

 

[Harry Bosch]

I'm not impressed. Noam Chomsky proposes essentially a society of virtuous anarchists. He does not seem to have concerned himself with actually starting his kind of society, however.

Of course not! He knows that an anarchist society today would fail.

 

[untermensche]

I'm not impressed. Noam Chomsky proposes essentially a society of virtuous anarchists. He does not seem to have concerned himself with actually starting his kind of society, however.

Of course not! He knows that an anarchist society today would fail.

He at least knows that predictions like this are absurd.

An Anarchist society is only a transition of certain power structures. It isn't mass amnesia where everything known is magically unknown.

In an Anarchist society top down power structures are replaced with democratic power structures.

It isn't utopia. It is merely the elimination of illegitimate and harmful structures of power, or at least that is the goal of Anarchism.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Of course not! He knows that an anarchist society today would fail.

He at least knows that predictions like this are absurd.

An Anarchist society is only a transition of certain power structures. It isn't mass amnesia where everything known is magically unknown.

In an Anarchist society top down power structures are replaced with democratic power structures.

It isn't utopia. It is merely the elimination of illegitimate and harmful structures of power, or at least that is the goal of Anarchism.

And what you don't get it is that would end up just being replacing those at the top with a new set at the top.

 

[untermensche]

He at least knows that predictions like this are absurd.

An Anarchist society is only a transition of certain power structures. It isn't mass amnesia where everything known is magically unknown.

In an Anarchist society top down power structures are replaced with democratic power structures.

It isn't utopia. It is merely the elimination of illegitimate and harmful structures of power, or at least that is the goal of Anarchism.

And what you don't get it is that would end up just being replacing those at the top with a new set at the top.

That is the fear all Anarchists have.

They at least go into it recognizing the dangers of top down authoritarian structures, as opposed to some, blind to the dangers.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

And what you don't get it is that would end up just being replacing those at the top with a new set at the top.

That is the fear all Anarchists have.

They at least go into it recognizing the dangers of top down authoritarian structures, as opposed to some, blind to the dangers.

The problem is they have a total fantasy about how to fix it.

 

[untermensche]

That is the fear all Anarchists have.

They at least go into it recognizing the dangers of top down authoritarian structures, as opposed to some, blind to the dangers.

The problem is they have a total fantasy about how to fix it.

Please explain in detail what this fantasy is, since you claim to know so much about it.

 

[fromderinside]

Personally, I think he's a insufferable twit with an over inflated ego and over exaggerated sense of intellect.

Fixed it.

As for influence on the left we're talking about those who won't have their kids inoculated as among them.

 

[untermensche]

Personally, I think he's a insufferable twit with an over inflated ego and over exaggerated sense of intellect.

Fixed it.

As for influence on the left we're talking about those who won't have their kids inoculated as among them.

Ridiculous.

He is highly respected all across the spectrum on the left.

But he is least respected in the US. The land of ignorance.

Chomsky is mostly influential in Europe and South America. Most influential in places that the US has interfered with.

Many Americans can't seem to get beyond his condemnations of US violence and aggression while most of the world totally agrees with him.

 

[fromderinside]

Fixed it.

As for influence on the left we're talking about those who won't have their kids inoculated as among them.

Ridiculous.

He is highly respected all across the spectrum on the left.

But he is least respected in the US. The land of ignorance.

Chomsky is mostly influential in Europe and South America. Most influential in places that the US has interfered with.

Many Americans can't seem to get beyond his condemnations of US violence and aggression while most of the world totally agrees with him.

Pacificism was an honorable thing before Chomsky co-oped it. Its lest tasteful now as the Chomsky lad sucked up to the politically correct in education extremists. Giving the weatherman faction a pass is not one something for which I'll never forgive him. That and his latching onto Gould's political genetics for communists and wearers of idealism's 19th century child like views. Chomsky has done more to make science political than anyone since Lysenko. I'm just getting started here.

 

[untermensche]

Ridiculous.

He is highly respected all across the spectrum on the left.

But he is least respected in the US. The land of ignorance.

Chomsky is mostly influential in Europe and South America. Most influential in places that the US has interfered with.

Many Americans can't seem to get beyond his condemnations of US violence and aggression while most of the world totally agrees with him.

Pacificism was an honorable thing before Chomsky co-oped it. Its lest tasteful now as the Chomsky lad sucked up to the politically correct in education extremists. Giving the weatherman faction a pass is not one something for which I'll never forgive him. That and his latching onto Gould's political genetics for communists and wearers of idealism's 19th century child like views. Chomsky has done more to make science political than anyone since Lysenko. I'm just getting started here.

You're talking nonsense.

Just one example. Chomsky is not a pacifist. He has said it plainly many times. He believes in the right to self defense, even violent self defense. He just isn't twisted enough to see clear aggression, like in Vietnam and Iraq, as self defense.

So the first word you write is a misrepresentation.

And things go downhill from there.