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Thousands of Bernie Sanders Supporters Are Suing the DNC in a Massive Class Action Lawsuit

dismal said:
The public funding for primaries was conditioned of following certain rules in the Democrat party charter? Cite?
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I don't believe it needs to be outright explicit. If, however, they get taxpayer dollars in order to run a primary, they are essentially saying that they are going to use the money to run X event using Y rules. If they don't do that in exchange for getting the money, they have essentially defrauded the taxpayers.

dismal said:
In any case, the public should not be funding the primaries. The problem there being that the public is largely represented by the Democrats and Republicans.
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I think it's fine to have the voting for political party nominees to be funded by the pubic. It's using the same organizational structure that's already there for the general election and it would be a waste to have parties duplicate that process. When they do so, however, they can't then claim to be nothing but private organizations who are dealing with purely internal matters.
 
ronburgundy said:
people ... donated and/or volunteered time to the DNC under the pretense of their explicitly stated rules. If those rules were broken, then it's fraud.
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Exactly. And Bernie spent time, resources, forfeited his personal privacy, and reasonably expected that he would be treated fairly. If he wasn't, then fraud is the least of it...
 
Tom Sawyer said:
I don't believe it needs to be outright explicit. If, however, they get taxpayer dollars in order to run a primary, they are essentially saying that they are going to use the money to run X event using Y rules. If they don't do that in exchange for getting the money, they have essentially defrauded the taxpayers.

dismal said:
In any case, the public should not be funding the primaries. The problem there being that the public is largely represented by the Democrats and Republicans.
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I think it's fine to have the voting for political party nominees to be funded by the pubic. It's using the same organizational structure that's already there for the general election and it would be a waste to have parties duplicate that process. When they do so, however, they can't then claim to be nothing but private organizations who are dealing with purely internal matters.
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I disagree. The parties should pay for their own primaries if they want to have them. They are not part of our national elections, they are private matters.
 
Jolly_Penguin said:
I don't see how they can SUE over this. As stated above, it is more like a private club. Can't they nominate whoever they want? Are their rules laws or just party rules, the breaking of which are a party matter? ...
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IF someone has changed written rules unfairly and there is a resulting loss of money and time, then there is the possibility of a valid lawsuit. Big IF.
 
Why exactly do we have these private tyrannies deciding who will be president?

And why do we have anybody defending this undemocratic system?

Because a third rater and a madman won?
 
untermensche said:
Why exactly do we have these private tyrannies deciding who will be president?

And why do we have anybody defending this undemocratic system?

Because a third rater and a madman won?
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Hey, Clinton is second rate at worst. Don't call her third rate. That's racist against white people.
 
Alcoholic Actuary said:
Of course the DNC isn't violating any laws.

Which is why the plaintiffs are filing a civil lawsuit for remediation instead of filing criminal charges and making arrests.

Presumably, the plaintiffs feel that the defendant acted in bad faith by not adhering to their own charter, and that said actions were the direct cause of damages to the party. It's not like anything will be overturned or anyone will go to jail over this. The plaintiffs are probably seeking to punish the DNC through fines and monetary rewards so that they don't engage in the damaging behavior again.

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But what are their damages? Well first, they're going to have to prove the chair was impartial, that the duty was breached, that there were damages, and that the impartiality either directly or was the proximate cause of those damages. And who would the damages go to? Who would have the right to the award?

Now, I don't know what the counter-argument would be because we don't know all the rules at play here. And we also don't have the Bitter Bernie Bollock's complaint either, so it's all speculation.

Are they seeking an injunction of some kind? If so, it's like asking for a restraining order after your stalker has already killed you.

Bah. Who gives a shit; this isn't going anywhere.
 
"...Democratic National Committee [shall] maintain impartiality and evenhandedness..."

That was not the case, and they want their money back.
 
Uwe said:
"...Democratic National Committee [shall] maintain impartiality and evenhandedness..."

That was not the case, and they want their money back.
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Jesus Christ. This is the problem with the left, they believe in eating their own. Only the democrats could possibly lose to such an incompetent fool as Donald Trump.
 
Will Wiley said:
Thousands of Bernie Sanders Supporters Are Suing the DNC in a Massive Class Action Lawsuit

The basis for the lawsuit stems from DNC internal communications published by hacker Guccifer 2.0, who took ownership of the compromising of DNC servers and allegedly leaked their contents. Among other items, the leaks revealed emails showing the DNC had been actively working behind the scenes to boost Hillary Clinton’s profile in the media as early as May 26, 2015, nearly a month after Sanders had entered the race for the Democratic nomination.

New leaks published this week showed the DNC spent time and resources assessing Clinton’s vulnerabilities as a candidate in the early summer of 2015, and the DNC even drafted talking points for campaign operatives to suggest as narratives to members of the media, attempting to inject their own phrasing into third-party stories.

Beck said he believes the lawsuit will be successful, as Article 5, Section 4 of the charter and bylaws of the Democratic Party explicitly requires the chair of the DNC to remain impartial during the primary process:
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As a trump supporter, this must be a very distressing story for you.
 
Tom Sawyer said:
untermensche said:
Why exactly do we have these private tyrannies deciding who will be president?

And why do we have anybody defending this undemocratic system?

Because a third rater and a madman won?
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Hey, Clinton is second rate at worst. Don't call her third rate. That's racist against white people.
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Don't be ridiculous -- he obviously only thinks she's third rate because she's strong and she's successful and she's a she. It's racist against women!
 
Bomb#20 said:
Tom Sawyer said:
Hey, Clinton is second rate at worst. Don't call her third rate. That's racist against white people.
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Don't be ridiculous -- he obviously only thinks she's third rate because she's strong and she's successful and she's a she. It's racist against women!
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She voted to allow GW to invade Iraq at will.

She is a third rater.

A turd.

A sign of how bad things have become.
 
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