TSA and the nudie scanners (spinoff from the college sex tribual thread)

[barbos]

Two quick points:

The article was published in 2014 and says the scanners Loren is talking about haven't been used in airports since 2012. Thet were replaced with a different type of scanner the authors haven't been able to test.



Also, as to the alleged superior ability of the metal detectors to detect weapons, it ain't so. Years ago a visiting friend showed me the zytel bayonet he carried in an arm sheath everywhere he went, including on airplanes. The old airport metal detectors were completely unable to detect the thing. The nudie scanners probably would have shown it even along the side of his body and would have shown the sheath. The newer millimeter scanners can also reveal such items, and since they do a sweep the simple trick of exploiting viewing angles won't work.

But the new scanners have the same fundamental flaw as the old--metal shows as black, the background beside the body shows as black. Black on black is invisible.

Make background with some pattern, problem solved!

 

[Loren Pechtel]

But the new scanners have the same fundamental flaw as the old--metal shows as black, the background beside the body shows as black. Black on black is invisible.

Make background with some pattern, problem solved!

You're going to put a pattern in mid air???

 

[barbos]

Make background with some pattern, problem solved!

You're going to put a pattern in mid air???

yes, just behind the subject.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

You're going to put a pattern in mid air???

yes, just behind the subject.

On what are you going to put this pattern, though? How are you going to make the air reflect the energy?

I think you're saying to just make a fake pattern in the machine but that won't help--the whole point is the machine can't tell the difference between metal and air.

 

[barbos]

yes, just behind the subject.

On what are you going to put this pattern, though? How are you going to make the air reflect the energy?

I think you're saying to just make a fake pattern in the machine but that won't help--the whole point is the machine can't tell the difference between metal and air.

The whole point is that object has a metal wall background, you just need to change background.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

On what are you going to put this pattern, though? How are you going to make the air reflect the energy?

I think you're saying to just make a fake pattern in the machine but that won't help--the whole point is the machine can't tell the difference between metal and air.

The whole point is that object has a metal wall background, you just need to change background.

I guess you haven't flown recently.

 

[barbos]

The whole point is that object has a metal wall background, you just need to change background.

I guess you haven't flown recently.

No I have never been scanned by these machines, but what I say still correct. They need to change background, I suggest background with stripes

 

[Loren Pechtel]

I guess you haven't flown recently.

No I have never been scanned by these machines, but what I say still correct. They need to change background, I suggest background with stripes

What you're missing is that it's not like a camera where you get the background in the picture. The machines are in mostly enclosed chambers of metal and clear plastic--but that doesn't cause a background pattern.

 

[barbos]

No I have never been scanned by these machines, but what I say still correct. They need to change background, I suggest background with stripes

What you're missing is that it's not like a camera where you get the background in the picture. The machines are in mostly enclosed chambers of metal and clear plastic--but that doesn't cause a background pattern.

Does not matter, they need to create background on which metal objects can be seen.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

What you're missing is that it's not like a camera where you get the background in the picture. The machines are in mostly enclosed chambers of metal and clear plastic--but that doesn't cause a background pattern.

Does not matter, they need to create background on which metal objects can be seen.

Decreeing that doesn't make it happen.

 

[Arctish]

According to the article in the OP, the 'nudie' machines haven't been used at airports since 2012. The current TSA security scanners don't operate the same way so it's highly unlikely they have the same flaws.

 

[barbos]

Does not matter, they need to create background on which metal objects can be seen.

Decreeing that doesn't make it happen.

No need, these particular type machines are not used anymore.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

According to the article in the OP, the 'nudie' machines haven't been used at airports since 2012. The current TSA security scanners don't operate the same way so it's highly unlikely they have the same flaws.

The new ones use high frequency radio rather than low frequency x-ray but they detect and fail to detect basically the same things.

 

[barbos]

According to the article in the OP, the 'nudie' machines haven't been used at airports since 2012. The current TSA security scanners don't operate the same way so it's highly unlikely they have the same flaws.

The new ones use high frequency radio rather than low frequency x-ray but they detect and fail to detect basically the same things.

There is no evidence of that.