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Undocumented immigrant to the rescue

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2018/05/28/an-undocumented-immigrant-saved-a-toddler-dangling-from-a-paris-balcony-now-hes-a-national-hero/?utm_term=.d1f61f98efa3

The video footage is striking: In a matter of seconds, a young man scales four stories of a Paris apartment building to rescue a child dangling from a balcony above the street.

The rescuer’s name is Mamoudou Gassama, an undocumented 22-year-old immigrant from Mali, who is now being feted as a national hero despite having lived in France for less than six months. Paris Mayor Anne Hidalgo announced that the city would support his effort to stay in France, and President Emmanuel Macron welcomed him to the Élysée Palace on Monday.

Gassama — christened “Spider-Man” on French social media — has emerged as an overnight celebrity after rescuing the child Saturday night, at a moment when life is becoming increasingly difficult for immigrants in France.

Why are so many people xenophobic when it comes to desperate people trying to enter their countries without going through legal channels? Immigrants, for the most part, add a lot of benefits to society. It takes great courage to travel to another country, knowing that you might not be welcomed. Most people that do this are hard working people who only want a better life for themselves and their families. Yet, there are a lot of people who don't care about the hardships and often violence that these people left behind. Why is that?

These people, at least in the US, and probably as well in countries that have low birth rates. are needed to do the jobs that are hard to fill, to start up small, local businesses and to help support older and disabled adults by paying taxes that help support the safety net. Of course immigrants would rather migrate legally but many Western countries have made that almost impossible. This is especially true in the US and France.

It seems to me that we have a lot to lose by denying so many people the right to contribute to our society. Without young immigrants, farmers suffer, older people can't find helpers when they need care, etc. We need a lot more young workers as the large baby boomer generation is in the process of retiring. Is it simply hatred and racism that motivates people to deny these people to want to keep these workers out? I've worked with many immigrants. I never asked them how they got to the US. I was only happy to have them work with me. I've also visited some immigrants, some were likely undocumented, when I worked as a home health nurse many years ago. They were all decent people who appreciated the care that I gave them. To me, they were assets and not liabilities. I once hired a company to paint my house when I lived on the north side of Atlanta. All of the painters were Hispanic immigrants, possibly undocumented. They did a fantastic job and even chased down my little dog and brought him back to me when he slipped out the front door unnoticed.

While the African man in Paris should be applauded for his heroic deed, one shouldn't have to be a hero to receive entry into a country. I personally find it sickening that this xenophobia has infected the US, and many other Western countries. What can be done to change this? ( yeah I know, it won't happen under the current administration )

And, please don't tell me how you or your family came her legally. Many of my relatives came here legally too, but that was during a time when all you had to do is step off the ship and give a reason why you wanted to be a part of the US. Those days are long over. My husband's late grandmother came here from Syria. She was desperate, but all she had to do was give a reason why she wanted to be a part of the US. She was only 16 at the time. Can you imagine what she would have to do to legally enter the country now? These days it's extremely difficult to obtain legal status. I'm not saying we shouldn't vet people, but to me, it's obvious that the current situation is both hateful and stupid. We need immigrants to help make America great again! :)
 
And because of that one act, all illegals should get to stay, and Europe and US should have completely open borders, is that it?

And if you don't support illegal and otherwise mass migration, you must be a "xenophobe" :rolleyes:
 
I just wonder how many kids in Mali fell to their deaths today because this guy wasn't there to save them.
 
We had a famous case in SF where an illegal immigrant killed a completely innocent young white woman (Kate Steinle). By your logic, shouldn't that mean we need stricter immigration controls? Or does it only work one way?
 
We had a famous case in SF where an illegal immigrant killed a completely innocent young white woman (Kate Steinle). By your logic, shouldn't that mean we need stricter immigration controls? Or does it only work one way?

I don't think it works either way. The point is that immigrants are actually people and can have positive or negative actions. Like most people, they do more positive things than negative things so demonizing them as a group creates a flawed view which is removed from reality.
 
I don't think it works either way. The point is that immigrants are actually people and can have positive or negative actions. Like most people, they do more positive things than negative things so demonizing them as a group creates a flawed view which is removed from reality.
Yes, immigrants are people and can be good and bad. But that's why we need to stop illegal migration and only accept legal migration. That way we can vet people and also limit migration to reasonable numbers. The problem facing the US and Europe now is that there are orders of magnitude more people who want to migrate to these places than these places can meaningfully absorb. Supporters of illegal migration ignore this basic problem of quantity.
 
Apparently the immigrant was a better person than the native French parent.
 
And because of that one act, all illegals should get to stay, and Europe and US should have completely open borders, is that it?

And if you don't support illegal and otherwise mass migration, you must be a "xenophobe" :rolleyes:

Nobody ever said that. Stop making shit up.

The point is that it's far too difficult for decent people to enter the US or France for that matter when they try to follow legal pathways. Both of these countries need more young immigrants but considering how difficult it is to enter, there are more desperate people trying to get in however then can. Nobody ever said that the people that enter shouldn't be vetted before they are given a chance to become legal residents. The fucking birth rate in the US is at a 30 year low. We and most Western nations need a lot more immigrants. But, there are too many conservative snowflakes that are so terrified that a few of these immigrants might beome criminals, that they don't want any of them. :p
 
We had a famous case in SF where an illegal immigrant killed a completely innocent young white woman (Kate Steinle). By your logic, shouldn't that mean we need stricter immigration controls? Or does it only work one way?

I don't think it works either way. The point is that immigrants are actually people and can have positive or negative actions. Like most people, they do more positive things than negative things so demonizing them as a group creates a flawed view which is removed from reality.

Sounds like you're agreeing with me that this guy being in France results in the people in Mali being worse off. Since Mali is a poor country, it seems like any good progressive would want him to stay there instead of being in France making the French people better off.

Indeed, any good redistributionist progressive should be for sending French people to Mali, not the other way around.
 
So why couldn't the adult closest to the child retrieve him/her?
If you look at the video closely, you'll see the kid starts farther to the left and then inches towards the guy (his father, I presume). When spider-man gets there, the father already seems to have a grip on the child, so the kid probably would have survived anyway. That's not to diminish the guy's heroism in any way, after all when he started limbing the kid was unreachable by his father.
 
So why couldn't the adult closest to the child retrieve him/her?
If you look at the video closely, you'll see the kid starts farther to the left and then inches towards the guy (his father, I presume). When spider-man gets there, the father already seems to have a grip on the child, so the kid probably would have survived anyway. That's not to diminish the guy's heroism in any way, after all when he started limbing the kid was unreachable by his father.

That's not the father. It's a next door neighbor. The father went to the grocery store and left the toddler alone. That's why I said what I did in post number nine.
 
So why couldn't the adult closest to the child retrieve him/her?
If you look at the video closely, you'll see the kid starts farther to the left and then inches towards the guy (his father, I presume). When spider-man gets there, the father already seems to have a grip on the child, so the kid probably would have survived anyway. That's not to diminish the guy's heroism in any way, after all when he started limbing the kid was unreachable by his father.

That's not the father. It's a next door neighbor. The father went to the grocery store and left the toddler alone. That's why I said what I did in post number nine.

Ok so whoever. But I don't think parkour skills are a requirement for parenting even if you're French. And kids tend to not be as overprotected in Europe compared to America so I wouldn't say that the kid's real father is necessarily a terrible parent (though apparently he was questioned by the police), knowing nothing more of the incident.
 
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