Vaccine Resistance and the COVID Passport Effect

[Loren Pechtel]

There isn't a "problem". Just saying. For work I usually need to make that trip. I expect that those two countries will expect some government issued document that I am vaccinated. If the US government doesn't get on board in an international way then I will not make the trip because I will not go if I have to quarantine for two weeks.

Frankly, I've been to Japan over 30 times and China 5 times and I'd be perfectly happy not going any more. But my employer will probably expect me to go so long as I don't have to waste two weeks in quarantine. Again, just stating facts.

I guess I don't understand what facts you're stating.

My mother-in-law has a card, issued by the government, stating that she's been vaccinated. It includes details, like the times and places and brand of of her two shots. Moderna.

Are you saying that foreign governments have higher standards than a southern Indiana health department's say so(or at least a reasonable facsimile)?

Oh, golly, has the USA lost credibility with foreign governments over the last few years? Could that be true?


We nuked Japan and they stopped messing with us. Didn't they?
Tom

Those cards are far too easy to fake. In the past it's not been a big deal, without the death cult travelers would simply get the shots needed for where they were going.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

They will fill in the second dose when I get that. I doubt that that will be accepted by foreign countries.

So, the problem is that the USA lacks credibility.
That doesn't surprise me any.

Maybe a year of Biden administration and the USA will.
Tom

Don't try to throw a straw-man argument on me.
You clearly didn't read my post. I wrote " It's too easy to fake." That has Zero to do with the CDC or the US government. It's that anyone with a computer and a printer/scanner can easily forge one of those CDC cards. Scan it. White out the hand-writtten data. Print a blank card on card stock and write whatever you want.

Just white out the name and birthdate, no need to mess with the rest of it. You don't need blank card stock.

 

[crazyfingers]

Nearly 40% of US Marines offered the vaccine have declined to get it!

https://www.cnn.com/2021/04/09/politics/marines-coronavirus-vaccines/index.html

Officials say most of the vaccine hesitancy stems from concerns about the speed at which the vaccines were developed and fears over long-term effects.

The Defense Department has approximately 2.2 million service members operating around the globe. For every 10 percentage point drop in the acceptance rate, that's 220,000 individuals opting not to receive vaccines, a number potentially large enough to affect force readiness. Last year, the military experienced a handful of high-profile Covid outbreaks, including one aboard an aircraft carrier deployed in the Pacific.

Last month, a group of Democratic lawmakers called on President Joe Biden to issue a "waiver of informed consent" to make getting vaccinated against Covid-19 mandatory for all US military service members, writing in a letter that "disinformation and vaccine skepticism" are influencing service members to opt out of being vaccinated.