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Vermont prioritises BIPOC over white people for COVID-19 vaccine

 
 
 
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https://www.healthvermont.gov/covid-19/vaccine/getting-covid-19-vaccine

Vermont has decided the following groups are the priorities for COVID-19 vaccination:
People 50 years and older



People 16 years or older with high-risk health conditions



Parents and primary caregivers of children with high-risk health conditions



Black, Indigenous and people of color (BIPOC)



English language learners and people in immigrant/refugee communities



Health care personnel and residents of long-term care facilities



People who work in the public safety system



School staff and child care workers

I asked the chatbot:

  • Is it constitutional to prioritise BIPOC over white people?





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  • Bot said:Hello and welcome!
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    Bot said:
    Hello and welcome!






    Sent at April 2 at 3:06 PM



  • Bot said:I identify as BIPOC (Black, Indigenous or a person of color). Am I eligible to get the vaccine? Yes. If you or anyone in your household identifies as Black, Indigenous, or a person of color (BIPOC), including anyone with Abenaki or other First Nations heritage, all household members who are 16 years or older can also sign up to get a vaccine. Find more details on how to make an appointment
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    Bot said:
    I identify as BIPOC (Black, Indigenous or a person of color). Am I eligible to get the vaccine?
    Yes. If you or anyone in your household identifies as Black, Indigenous, or a person of color (BIPOC), including anyone with Abenaki or other First Nations heritage, all household members who are 16 years or older can also sign up to get a vaccine.
    Find more details on how to make an appointment.









Which did not answer my question.

Is this, in fact, Constitutional?
 
What, all five of them?

Seriously, that list is extremely discriminatory and bigoted. So, par for the course for the Left Wing.
 
The list contains groups that clearly should get priority--such as people over 50 or with high-risk health conditions.

I wonder why Vermont did not consider 'men' as a high risk group, given that men are more likely to die from COVID-19. But that would be bad discrimination.
 
Metaphor said:
https://www.healthvermont.gov/covid-19/vaccine/getting-covid-19-vaccine

Vermont has decided the following groups are the priorities for COVID-19 vaccination:
People 50 years and older



People 16 years or older with high-risk health conditions



Parents and primary caregivers of children with high-risk health conditions



Black, Indigenous and people of color (BIPOC)



English language learners and people in immigrant/refugee communities



Health care personnel and residents of long-term care facilities



People who work in the public safety system



School staff and child care workers

I asked the chatbot:

  • Is it constitutional to prioritise BIPOC over white people?





    Sent at April 2 at 3:06 PM
    Just now


  • Bot said:Hello and welcome!
    Sent at April 2 at 3:06 PM
    Bot said:
    Hello and welcome!






    Sent at April 2 at 3:06 PM



  • Bot said:I identify as BIPOC (Black, Indigenous or a person of color). Am I eligible to get the vaccine? Yes. If you or anyone in your household identifies as Black, Indigenous, or a person of color (BIPOC), including anyone with Abenaki or other First Nations heritage, all household members who are 16 years or older can also sign up to get a vaccine. Find more details on how to make an appointment
    1 attachment.
    Sent at April 2 at 3:06 PM
    Press ENTER to interact.
    Bot said:
    I identify as BIPOC (Black, Indigenous or a person of color). Am I eligible to get the vaccine?
    Yes. If you or anyone in your household identifies as Black, Indigenous, or a person of color (BIPOC), including anyone with Abenaki or other First Nations heritage, all household members who are 16 years or older can also sign up to get a vaccine.
    Find more details on how to make an appointment.









Which did not answer my question.

Is this, in fact, Constitutional?
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Seeing that Vermont is probably around 95% white (looked it up, 93%), this isn’t a bad idea at at all.

What is the deal with all the bed wetting by some people? They root around for news like this like a pig for truffles. They find a story on their White Rage news aggregator and start pissing their pants and snorting.

Oh, I have to share this with everyone! This’ll prove white people really are the victims here.
 
Jimmy Higgins said:
Metaphor said:
https://www.healthvermont.gov/covid-19/vaccine/getting-covid-19-vaccine

Vermont has decided the following groups are the priorities for COVID-19 vaccination:
People 50 years and older



People 16 years or older with high-risk health conditions



Parents and primary caregivers of children with high-risk health conditions



Black, Indigenous and people of color (BIPOC)



English language learners and people in immigrant/refugee communities



Health care personnel and residents of long-term care facilities



People who work in the public safety system



School staff and child care workers

I asked the chatbot:

  • Is it constitutional to prioritise BIPOC over white people?





    Sent at April 2 at 3:06 PM
    Just now


  • Bot said:Hello and welcome!
    Sent at April 2 at 3:06 PM
    Bot said:
    Hello and welcome!






    Sent at April 2 at 3:06 PM



  • Bot said:I identify as BIPOC (Black, Indigenous or a person of color). Am I eligible to get the vaccine? Yes. If you or anyone in your household identifies as Black, Indigenous, or a person of color (BIPOC), including anyone with Abenaki or other First Nations heritage, all household members who are 16 years or older can also sign up to get a vaccine. Find more details on how to make an appointment
    1 attachment.
    Sent at April 2 at 3:06 PM
    Press ENTER to interact.
    Bot said:
    I identify as BIPOC (Black, Indigenous or a person of color). Am I eligible to get the vaccine?
    Yes. If you or anyone in your household identifies as Black, Indigenous, or a person of color (BIPOC), including anyone with Abenaki or other First Nations heritage, all household members who are 16 years or older can also sign up to get a vaccine.
    Find more details on how to make an appointment.









Which did not answer my question.

Is this, in fact, Constitutional?
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Seeing that Vermont is probably around 95% white (looked it up, 93%), this isn’t a bad idea at at all.

What is the deal with all the bed wetting by some people? They root around for news like this like a pig for truffles. They find a story on their White Rage news aggregator and start pissing their pants and snorting.

Oh, I have to share this with everyone! This’ll prove white people really are the victims here.
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What makes the State discriminating by race "not a bad idea at all"?

What makes you so angry about being alerted to Vermont's discrimination by race against white people?
 
ZiprHead said:
This is why BIPOC are prioritized:

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https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/201.../hospitalization-death-by-race-ethnicity.html
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So, on that basis, Asians should be de-prioritised from the other BIPOC.

According to this link:
https://www.cdc.gov/pcd/issues/2020/20_0247.htm

the death rate from COVID-19 was 2.4x higher in men than in women, which is as high as the BIPOC (excluding Asian) compared to white people.

Would you support Vermont adding men over 16 as a priority group, based on morbidity data?
 
Only BIPOCS. StraightPOCS and GayPOCS are not included. This is discrimination. But I am against ALL racial discrimination, Including discrimination against White people.

Eldarion Lathria
 
Eldarion Lathria said:
Only BIPOCS. StraightPOCS and GayPOCS are not included. This is discrimination. But I am against ALL racial discrimination, Including discrimination against White people.

Eldarion Lathria
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So you don't believe in triage in medical care?
 
I am not saying I am for it or against it.

BUT I wonder why wasn't this an issue over age with all the old people getting vaccinated first?

I mean absolutely everywhere.

No one was screaming about senior citizens, "See, I told you they were taking over!!!11!1 And the Democrats are helping them!"
 
Don2 (Don1 Revised) said:
I am not saying I am for it or against it.

BUT I wonder why wasn't this an issue over age with all the old people getting vaccinated first?

I mean absolutely everywhere.

No one was screaming about senior citizens, "See, I told you they were taking over!!!11!1 And the Democrats are helping them!"
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That isn't true. For example, this 'expert in ethics and health policy' very much did want to consider a policy of throwing older people to the COVID wolf, saying
'Older populations are whiter,' 'Society is structured in a way that enables them to live longer. Instead of giving additional health benefits to those who already had more of them, we can start to level the playing field a bit.'

And, the order of magnitude is not the same. For example, the link provided by ZiprHead shows that people 50-64 are 440x more more likely to die from COVID-19 than the reference age group.

And with a similar order of magnitude as the comparison between BIPOC and white deaths, men are 2.4x more likely to die from COVID compared to women, yet men have not been prioritised by Vermont.
 
ZiprHead said:
Eldarion Lathria said:
Only BIPOCS. StraightPOCS and GayPOCS are not included. This is discrimination. But I am against ALL racial discrimination, Including discrimination against White people.

Eldarion Lathria
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So you don't believe in triage in medical care?
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Do you, ZiprHead?

Since the evidence shows that men are 2.4x more likely to die from COVID compared to women, should not Vermont also include men as a priority group ahead of women?
 
Metaphor said:
ZiprHead said:
Eldarion Lathria said:
Only BIPOCS. StraightPOCS and GayPOCS are not included. This is discrimination. But I am against ALL racial discrimination, Including discrimination against White people.

Eldarion Lathria
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So you don't believe in triage in medical care?
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Do you, ZiprHead?

Since the evidence shows that men are 2.4x more likely to die from COVID compared to women, should not Vermont also include men as a priority group ahead of women?
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Yes. But still behind BIPOC.

I take it you're giving up on the constitutional argument you started out with.
 
Eldarion Lathria said:
Only BIPOCS. StraightPOCS and GayPOCS are not included. This is discrimination. But I am against ALL racial discrimination, Including discrimination against White people.

Eldarion Lathria
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In a state almost exclusively white, it is important to get to the minority and underserved population (ain't much of it). This will almost certainly have no impact on white people getting vaccinated in the state of Vermont.
 
ZiprHead said:
Metaphor said:
Do you, ZiprHead?

Since the evidence shows that men are 2.4x more likely to die from COVID compared to women, should not Vermont also include men as a priority group ahead of women?
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Yes. But still behind BIPOC.

I take it you're giving up on the constitutional argument you started out with.
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What argument? It was a question. Is the State's discrimination by race in this scenario against either the US or Vermont Constitutions? It isn't some kind of attempted slam dunk gotcha, it's a genuine question.

But also: why should men be behind BIPOC? The death rate ratio of men:women appears to be about the same as BIPOC (excluding Asian):white.
 
Jimmy Higgins said:
Eldarion Lathria said:
Only BIPOCS. StraightPOCS and GayPOCS are not included. This is discrimination. But I am against ALL racial discrimination, Including discrimination against White people.

Eldarion Lathria
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In a state almost exclusively white, it is important to get to the minority and underserved population (ain't much of it). This will almost certainly have no impact on white people getting vaccinated in the state of Vermont.
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Of course it will have an impact. The COVID vaccine will save lives and it has limited availability. Some white 45 year olds will die because Vermont prioritised 18 year old people of colour over them.

It is one thing to say it's worth it. It's quite another to pretend the priority makes no difference.
 
State aims are serving traditionally underserved communities with vaccination program. White Rage tonight at 11!
 
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