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[ZiprHead]

ICE Pledges to Stop Illegal 'Ideas' From Entering U.S. -- Then Deletes the Post

ICE pledged to stop illegal “ideas” from entering the United States in a social media post it deleted after receiving backlash.

www.rollingstone.com

Donald Trump’s Immigrations and Customs Enforcement has proudly announced that if it crosses the border illegally, they will stop it. This includes people, money, products, and … ideas?

In posts published — and later deleted — on X and Instagram today, ICE declared that it would stop any “ideas” that tried to enter the U.S. “illegally.” What idea is de facto illegal in the United States? None, but that hasn’t stopped the Trump administration from increasingly targeting individuals for detention and removal based on their ideology and political beliefs.

For weeks now, the Trump administration has been detaining and deporting green card holders for participating in pro-Palestinian protests, many of them students and teachers at prominent American universities. According to Secretary of State Marco Rubio, more than 300 students and academics are now targets for expulsion based on their political ideology.

Today, The Associated Press obtained a memo signed by Rubio that laid out Trump’s authority to deport Mahmoud Khalil, a legal resident and Columbia University protester who remains in ICE detention without criminal charges after the government attempted to deport him without due process. The memo did not allege any criminal conduct by Khalil. Instead, Rubio wrote that his continued presence in the United States “would have potentially serious adverse foreign policy consequences and would compromise a compelling U.S. foreign policy interest.”

In a statement to Rolling Stone, Demand Progress Education Fund Executive Director Sean Vitka said that “ideas cannot be illegal in a free society, and making threats based on them is a hallmark sign of fascism and tyranny. This is one of the clearest examples yet of Trump and his allies intentionally chilling free speech — the goal is to scare people, to push them into silence, and to undermine our Constitutional and human rights at the most fundamental levels.

“ICE is not and no government entity ever should be the thought police, but they want us to believe they are,” Vitka added. “At this point ICE is more dangerous to people in the United States than the ideas they are claiming to police.”

 

[Axulus]

I do have to wonder if some low level federal worker that created the infographic was trolling them. It is something I would try to do before resigning from a job like that.

 

[scombrid]

Stopping ideas eh. Like when they had their goons and bought local police stopping dangerous ideas from infiltrating the company towns in Appalachia in the late 19th and early 20th centuries? Man if they could just get that utopia back where they could just shoot or hang anyone that utters an idea against the state.

Thing is, Musk and Theil have openly opined that company towns would be the dream and nobody seemed to have noticed or thought what a town where the company owns everything, supplies everything, sets working hours and standards, etc. actually means.

 

[ZiprHead]

California stops homeland security agents entering elementary schools

The incident marks federal authorities' first reported attempt to enter an L.A. public school amid the president's crackdown.

www.newsweek.com

Los Angeles Unified School District Superintendent Alberto Carvalho told reporters on Thursday that the agents said they were visiting to check on the students' well-being.

School officials said the agents tried to deceive staff by saying the families had authorized the contact.

 

[ZiprHead]

 

[GenesisNemesis]

California stops homeland security agents entering elementary schools

The incident marks federal authorities' first reported attempt to enter an L.A. public school amid the president's crackdown.

www.newsweek.com

Los Angeles Unified School District Superintendent Alberto Carvalho told reporters on Thursday that the agents said they were visiting to check on the students' well-being.

School officials said the agents tried to deceive staff by saying the families had authorized the contact.

Only idiot bootlickers (conservatives) would believe it's for a wellness check.

 

[GenesisNemesis]

ICE Pledges to Stop Illegal 'Ideas' From Entering U.S. -- Then Deletes the Post

ICE pledged to stop illegal “ideas” from entering the United States in a social media post it deleted after receiving backlash.

www.rollingstone.com

Donald Trump’s Immigrations and Customs Enforcement has proudly announced that if it crosses the border illegally, they will stop it. This includes people, money, products, and … ideas?

In posts published — and later deleted — on X and Instagram today, ICE declared that it would stop any “ideas” that tried to enter the U.S. “illegally.” What idea is de facto illegal in the United States? None, but that hasn’t stopped the Trump administration from increasingly targeting individuals for detention and removal based on their ideology and political beliefs.

For weeks now, the Trump administration has been detaining and deporting green card holders for participating in pro-Palestinian protests, many of them students and teachers at prominent American universities. According to Secretary of State Marco Rubio, more than 300 students and academics are now targets for expulsion based on their political ideology.

Today, The Associated Press obtained a memo signed by Rubio that laid out Trump’s authority to deport Mahmoud Khalil, a legal resident and Columbia University protester who remains in ICE detention without criminal charges after the government attempted to deport him without due process. The memo did not allege any criminal conduct by Khalil. Instead, Rubio wrote that his continued presence in the United States “would have potentially serious adverse foreign policy consequences and would compromise a compelling U.S. foreign policy interest.”

In a statement to Rolling Stone, Demand Progress Education Fund Executive Director Sean Vitka said that “ideas cannot be illegal in a free society, and making threats based on them is a hallmark sign of fascism and tyranny. This is one of the clearest examples yet of Trump and his allies intentionally chilling free speech — the goal is to scare people, to push them into silence, and to undermine our Constitutional and human rights at the most fundamental levels.

“ICE is not and no government entity ever should be the thought police, but they want us to believe they are,” Vitka added. “At this point ICE is more dangerous to people in the United States than the ideas they are claiming to police.”

As long as Trump says something needs to go it's therefore illegal, that's how these MAGAtards operate.

 

[Elixir]

I do have to wonder if some low level bureauocrat that created the infographic was trolling them.

If so, they should be arrested for ideas that illegally crossed our border. Did nazi Germany pay tariffs to get Mein Kampf left on military library shelves while Native American code talkers were exorcized?

 

[thebeave]

Well, some ideas ARE bad and dangerous and should be thwarted from entering the country, no? Like say someone had the crazy idea of flying a passenger jet into a skyscraper. Could happen.

 

[Elixir]

Well, some ideas ARE bad and dangerous and should be thwarted from entering the country, no?

If the first time you hear I about it is when they actually do it, maybe you should have let the idea in so it could be addressed.

 

[Jarhyn]

Well, some ideas ARE bad and dangerous and should be thwarted from entering the country, no? Like say someone had the crazy idea of flying a passenger jet into a skyscraper. Could happen.

Nope. No idea is illegal to have in the US, no matter who you are (citizen or not). This is freedom of thought and religion.

If that was not the case, the very first idea to reject is Nazism.

 

[TomC]

Well, some ideas ARE bad and dangerous and should be thwarted from entering the country, no? Like say someone had the crazy idea of flying a passenger jet into a skyscraper. Could happen.

Nope. No idea is illegal to have in the US, no matter who you are (citizen or not). This is freedom of thought and religion.

If that was not the case, the very first idea to reject is Nazism.

And the immigrants who bring them!
(Cue the video of African American immigrant Elon Musk giving the Nazi salute to cheering crowd.)
Tom

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Well, some ideas ARE bad and dangerous and should be thwarted from entering the country, no? Like say someone had the crazy idea of flying a passenger jet into a skyscraper. Could happen.

America (the White Nationalists) needs people like you to help normalize this intrusion to help purify America, I'm sorry to help keep America safe.

 

[thebeave]

Well, some ideas ARE bad and dangerous and should be thwarted from entering the country, no? Like say someone had the crazy idea of flying a passenger jet into a skyscraper. Could happen.

Nope. No idea is illegal to have in the US, no matter who you are (citizen or not). This is freedom of thought and religion.

If that was not the case, the very first idea to reject is Nazism.

What if some ISIS terrorist mastermind in the Middle East who is under watch by Homeland Security et al sends a letter to one of his useful idiots in the US with an idea about blowing up a stadium full of people, and the letter is intercepted by the authorities. Is this an idea that should be allowed to proceed to its intended destination, even at the risk of hundreds of deaths?

 

[Elixir]

Well, some ideas ARE bad and dangerous and should be thwarted from entering the country, no? Like say someone had the crazy idea of flying a passenger jet into a skyscraper. Could happen.

Nope. No idea is illegal to have in the US, no matter who you are (citizen or not). This is freedom of thought and religion.

If that was not the case, the very first idea to reject is Nazism.

What if some ISIS terrorist mastermind in the Middle East who is under watch by Homeland Security et al sends a letter to one of his useful idiots in the US with an idea about blowing up a stadium full of people, and the letter is intercepted by the authorities. Is this an idea that should be allowed to proceed to its intended destination, even at the risk of hundreds of deaths?

There’s a difference between ideology and plans to blow shit up.
Trump should be allowed to spout Hitlerian bullshit, and espouse the idea that bad guys need to be purged. But grabbing people off the street and disappearing them because The Apricot thinks they’re bad, is illegal. Or WAS.
The idea that masks and vaccines are bad, killed hundreds of thousands of Americans last time this moron was in charge, but those ideas didn’t get anyone deported or even arrested.

 

[thebeave]

Well, some ideas ARE bad and dangerous and should be thwarted from entering the country, no? Like say someone had the crazy idea of flying a passenger jet into a skyscraper. Could happen.

Nope. No idea is illegal to have in the US, no matter who you are (citizen or not). This is freedom of thought and religion.

If that was not the case, the very first idea to reject is Nazism.

What if some ISIS terrorist mastermind in the Middle East who is under watch by Homeland Security et al sends a letter to one of his useful idiots in the US with an idea about blowing up a stadium full of people, and the letter is intercepted by the authorities. Is this an idea that should be allowed to proceed to its intended destination, even at the risk of hundreds of deaths?

There’s a difference between ideology and plans to blow shit up.
Trump should be allowed to spout Hitlerian bullshit, and espouse the idea that bad guys need to be purged. But grabbing people off the street and disappearing them because The Apricot thinks they’re bad, is illegal. Or WAS.
The idea that masks and vaccines are bad, killed hundreds of thousands of Americans last time this moron was in charge, but those ideas didn’t get anyone deported or even arrested.

Look at the poster/sign in question on post #2. "Illegal Ideas". Jarhyn said no idea is illegal. I guess if you are going to insist that, by definition, an idea is only a thought in your head that you express to no one, then there's no issue. But, if you express certain ideas verbally or written with intent to harm, then you can cross the line between legal and illegal. Wouldn't you agree?

 

[GenesisNemesis]

Well, some ideas ARE bad and dangerous and should be thwarted from entering the country, no? Like say someone had the crazy idea of flying a passenger jet into a skyscraper. Could happen.

It's already entered the country since we know about 9/11. Do you know how the spread of ideas even works? I would be embarrassed if I typed what you just typed.

 

[thebeave]

Well, some ideas ARE bad and dangerous and should be thwarted from entering the country, no? Like say someone had the crazy idea of flying a passenger jet into a skyscraper. Could happen.

It's already entered the country since we know about 9/11. Do you know how the spread of ideas even works? I would be embarrassed if I typed what you just typed.

I wish I knew where that emoticon is of the "whoosh" that goes over someone's head.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Well, some ideas ARE bad and dangerous and should be thwarted from entering the country, no? Like say someone had the crazy idea of flying a passenger jet into a skyscraper. Could happen.

It's already entered the country since we know about 9/11. Do you know how the spread of ideas even works? I would be embarrassed if I typed what you just typed.

I wish I knew where that emoticon is of the "whoosh" that goes over someone's head.

Yeah, gotta gaslight.

 

[laughing dog]

Well, some ideas ARE bad and dangerous and should be thwarted from entering the country, no? Like say someone had the crazy idea of flying a passenger jet into a skyscraper. Could happen.

That must be satire because rational people understand ideas are not dangerous but actions are.

More importantly, the only effective way of keeping existing “dangerous” ideas from entering the country from other countries is to monitor every form of communication entering the USA.