What's the Matter With Kansas? It's broke.

[Jimmy Higgins]

Looking at the source, that number includes colleges and includes everything from teachers, athletic staff, to infrastructure.

Where I live the city is spending a good deal of money. Why? Because the population in the schools is half of what it was when the city was bustling. Lower population means fewer buildings are needed, but of course, the buildings are also old. So the buildings need to be replaced. Some of them need to be closed and taken down.

So it'd seem that just looking at a single statistic is kind of silly as the education system requires a large infrastructure and that infrastructure is more complicated than a single metric.

 

[laughing dog]

Not really sure how that makes them morons, but that kind of attitude really does highlight a kind of arrogant elitism that makes the left unpopular with voters.

IMO, a moron is someone who deliberately acts to make an outcome worse, and then complains about the outcome.

 

[laughing dog]

http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/a...e-early-as-brownback-tax-cuts-squeeze-revenue

They may want to consider cutting non-essential admin salaries and positions and keep the schools open.

Interestingly, the cited articled does not support your conjecture. Sod o you have any data to show that would solve the problem or is that an example of an kneejerk data-free arrogant rightwing meme in action?

 

[AthenaAwakened]

Another view:



http://www.forbes.com/sites/rexsinq...h-is-on-the-rebound-look-at-the-real-numbers/



http://www.forbes.com/sites/rexsinq...x-cuts-making-kansas-a-more-prosperous-state/

Seeded With Tax Cuts, Kansas Harvests the Benefits

Unemployment has dropped to 4.2% from 5.5% in 2013, and wages and job growth are steadily climbing.

In March 2013, unemployment in Kansas stood at 5.5%. It has since dropped to 4.2%, tied for 14th lowest in the country.

• From 1998-2012, Kansas ranked 38th in private-sector job growth, according Bureau of Labor Statistics data crunched by the Kansas Policy Institute. In 2013—the first year after the tax reform—the state climbed to 27th place, and in 2014 it moved to 21st, placing it in the top half of states.

• In the second half of 2014, hourly wages in Kansas grew 3.5%, according to BLS data, far faster than the national average of 1.9%.

Then there is the Kansas City metropolitan area, a living laboratory that straddles the border with Missouri. On Mr. Brownback’s side of the divide, the top personal income-tax rate is now 4.9%, beginning at $15,000 for single filers; in Missouri the top 6% rate starts at $9,000.

“I just think Kansas City is a great study,” the governor says. “This is an unusual place, where you’ve got a city virtually equally divided between two states.” The results? Over the past two calendar years, private-sector jobs increased by 5.6% on the Kansas side and only 2.2% on the Missouri. In the same period hourly wages grew $1.22 on the Kansas side, compared with $0.61 on the Missouri side.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/seeded-with-tax-cuts-kansas-harvests-the-benefits-1431729743

Why are the schools closing early?

In part because the schools aren't managing their budgets all that well:

overall education funding increased, topping $4 billion for the first time.

How does a funding increase prove mismanagement?

http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/a...e-early-as-brownback-tax-cuts-squeeze-revenue

They may want to consider cutting non-essential admin salaries and positions and keep the schools open.

I agree that education systems can have become top heavy and that money spent in administration jobs that are not necessary can be better spent in the classroom. how many and what particular admin jobs in Kansas should be cut?

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/a...e-early-as-brownback-tax-cuts-squeeze-revenue

They may want to consider cutting non-essential admin salaries and positions and keep the schools open.

Interestingly, the cited articled does not support your conjecture. Sod o you have any data to show that would solve the problem or is that an example of an kneejerk data-free arrogant rightwing meme in action?

CEO's can get paid tens of millions and that is free market. A school superintendent makes $150k and all of a sudden we are talking bloated bureaucracy.

 

[Nice Squirrel]

Yep.

 

[bleubird]

But,cut the tax on rich ceo's will make money dribble down on some one some how,maybe.

 

[dismal]

Interestingly, the cited articled does not support your conjecture. Sod o you have any data to show that would solve the problem or is that an example of an kneejerk data-free arrogant rightwing meme in action?

CEO's can get paid tens of millions and that is free market. A school superintendent makes $150k and all of a sudden we are talking bloated bureaucracy.

Private school superintendents can get paid tens of millions in the free market too.

 

[ksen]

I made it up.

http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/2002/12/tax-cuts-increase-federal-revenues
http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/2004/06/the-laffer-curve-past-present-and-future
http://fee.org/freeman/detail/the-laffer-curve-will-tax-cuts-pay-for-themselves
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2012/10/12/flashback_jfk_s_1962_speech_advocating_tax_cuts
http://www.ontheissues.org/Celeb/Ronald_Reagan_Tax_Reform.htm

Can you point us to the ones where people are saying the Kansas tax cuts will make revnues go up?

The Laffer curve if I recall makes no such General pronouncement.

Goalposts moved right on schedule.

 

[dismal]

Can you point us to the ones where people are saying the Kansas tax cuts will make revnues go up?

The Laffer curve if I recall makes no such General pronouncement.

Goalposts moved right on schedule.

I went back and looked: This was always a thread about the recent tax cuts in Kansas.

 

[ksen]

Mm-hmm

 

[dismal]

Mm-hmm

So, the answer is no, you don't have any examples of anyone actually saying this particular tax cut would raise revenues?

 

[maxparrish]

Posh, nothing is wrong with Kansas. The usual gangsters and swindlers of the pen, the wreckers and saboteurs, are smearing the revolution. These willing stooges of the "Democratistas" are peddling lies, wallowing in tea party baiting.

Fear not, a committee called the "Friends of Kansas" will be formed to defend the revolution. Hollywood celebrities and students will soon be trekking to Kansas, to laud the accomplishments of the great revolution.

Oh wait, that's Venezuela.

 

[arkirk]

Posh, nothing is wrong with Kansas. The usual gangsters and swindlers of the pen, the wreckers and saboteurs, are smearing the revolution. These willing stooges of the "Democratistas" are peddling lies, wallowing in tea party baiting.

Fear not, a committee called the "Friends of Kansas" will be formed to defend the revolution. Hollywood celebrities and students will soon be trekking to Kansas, to laud the accomplishments of the great revolution.

Oh wait, that's Venezuela.

And when they get there, they will find Boeing doing just fine, thank you. They actually have huge revenue sources in that company alone. Of course the reason Boeing is there is that Kansas has agreed to take the austere path of not tax God's work and offered its esnes to work in the plants.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Can you point us to the ones where people are saying the Kansas tax cuts will make revnues go up?

The Laffer curve if I recall makes no such General pronouncement.

Goalposts moved right on schedule.

No kidding. The Laffer Curve? That Laffer Curve makes no pronouncements other than "'ehh".

 

[ksen]

Mm-hmm

So, the answer is no, you don't have any examples of anyone actually saying this particular tax cut would raise revenues?

http://www.kansaspolicy.org/KPIBlog/117061.aspx

 

[ksen]

Goalposts moved right on schedule.

No kidding. The Laffer Curve? That Laffer Curve makes no pronouncements other than "'ehh".

The Laffer Curve may make no pronouncements (lol) but Arthur Laffer sure does.

http://cjonline.com/news/2012-01-19/laffer-tax-plan-could-create-state-prosperity
http://www.pewtrusts.org/en/researc...ffers-supplyside-economics-staging-a-comeback

 

[maxparrish]

No kidding. The Laffer Curve? That Laffer Curve makes no pronouncements other than "'ehh".

The Laffer Curve may make no pronouncements (lol) but Arthur Laffer sure does.

http://cjonline.com/news/2012-01-19/laffer-tax-plan-could-create-state-prosperity
http://www.pewtrusts.org/en/researc...ffers-supplyside-economics-staging-a-comeback

Hmm, what happened to the 'you can't make an omelet (revolution) without breaking a few eggs' rationale?

 

[arkirk]

The Laffer Curve may make no pronouncements (lol) but Arthur Laffer sure does.

http://cjonline.com/news/2012-01-19/laffer-tax-plan-could-create-state-prosperity
http://www.pewtrusts.org/en/researc...ffers-supplyside-economics-staging-a-comeback

Hmm, what happened to the 'you can't make an omelet (revolution) without breaking a few eggs' rationale?

Looks like Laffer will give us more Reaganomics including cheating investors. What do you see in this man's corruption? Do we really want to rewarm supply side? This is pitiful!

 

[ksen]

The Laffer Curve may make no pronouncements (lol) but Arthur Laffer sure does.

http://cjonline.com/news/2012-01-19/laffer-tax-plan-could-create-state-prosperity
http://www.pewtrusts.org/en/researc...ffers-supplyside-economics-staging-a-comeback

Hmm, what happened to the 'you can't make an omelet (revolution) without breaking a few eggs' rationale?

I don't know, what happened to a rising tide lifts all boats?