White Americans: Why are you so angry?

[Tom Sawyer]

Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to conservatism.

Is fear the only source of anger? I'm being told that anger is a by-product of fear, and if that is so, then we can sometimes expect one's fear to lead to anger, but that does not imply that all anger is a function of fear. Besides, doesn't it sound kinda silly to think that every instance of anger is based on fear? That would take a monumentally unusual stretch of what the word, "fear" means.

How would fear leading to anger even remotely imply that it's the only source of anger?

 

[fast]

Well, I can't speak for all white people, but for example, this morning I opened my floor safe to count the cash I've accumulated thanks to my white priviledge, and the rubber band on the roll of bills suddenly broke and snapped the back of my hand somethin' fierce. Ouch! Why can't they make decent rubber bands these days?!!

Somehow, someway, someone, is gonna say that what underlies your anger is fear. If you wern't so damned scared of something, then, well, you would be so happy right now. Grow some balls so you won't be scared and therefore angry. Lol.

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Is fear the only source of anger? I'm being told that anger is a by-product of fear, and if that is so, then we can sometimes expect one's fear to lead to anger, but that does not imply that all anger is a function of fear. Besides, doesn't it sound kinda silly to think that every instance of anger is based on fear? That would take a monumentally unusual stretch of what the word, "fear" means.

How would fear leading to anger even remotely imply that it's the only source of anger?

It doesn't. I just want to know others see that.

 

[ronburgundy]

Somehow, someway, someone, is gonna say that what underlies your anger is fear. If you wern't so damned scared of something, then, well, you would be so happy right now. Grow some balls so you won't be scared and therefore angry. Lol.

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Is fear the only source of anger? I'm being told that anger is a by-product of fear, and if that is so, then we can sometimes expect one's fear to lead to anger, but that does not imply that all anger is a function of fear. Besides, doesn't it sound kinda silly to think that every instance of anger is based on fear? That would take a monumentally unusual stretch of what the word, "fear" means.

How would fear leading to anger even remotely imply that it's the only source of anger?

It doesn't. I just want to know others see that.

There is evidence (including brain imaging studies) that the anger tied to conservatism is fear-based.

But, actually there is also an argument to be made that all anger is closely tied to fear.
Fear and Anger are reactions to feelings of being threatened, which could be argued is a feeling that constitutes the core primal elements of fear. They share massive levels of specific neural activation, and differ primarily in terms of whether the contextual factors around the threat favor reducing the threat by attacking it (anger) versus fleeing from it (fear). IOW, the difference between them is mostly a difference in the subjectivity tied to bodily preparations to attack or flee, rather than in the core feeling of being threatened that underlies both.
Also, in most contexts, there is a mixture of action options that change by the millisecond, such as when an attack fails and retreat is needed, or when flight fails and one much turn and defend. Thus, people likely toggle from moment to moment between outward expressions of fear and anger that share a similar core emotional state.

 

[arkirk]

Nearly half of Americans are angry, and no groups are angrier than whites and Republicans, according to a new NBC News/Survey Monkey/Esquire online poll about outrage in the country.
Overall, 49 percent of Americans said they find themselves feeling angrier now about current events than they were one year ago. Whites are the angriest, with 54 percent saying they have grown more outraged over the past year. That's more than Latinos (43 percent) and African-Americans (33 percent).

Calculus should be a required course so people do not make such silly mistakes as confusing a value of a function with its rate of change. The two bolded portions do not mean the same thing dear NBC journalists.

Also, online polls are rather unreliable. I guess they have not polled many BLM activists. Perhaps many of them do not have regular internet access or are just too busy blocking malls and interstates.

So I take it YOU ARE VERY HAPPY?

 

[fast]

Somehow, someway, someone, is gonna say that what underlies your anger is fear. If you wern't so damned scared of something, then, well, you would be so happy right now. Grow some balls so you won't be scared and therefore angry. Lol.

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Is fear the only source of anger? I'm being told that anger is a by-product of fear, and if that is so, then we can sometimes expect one's fear to lead to anger, but that does not imply that all anger is a function of fear. Besides, doesn't it sound kinda silly to think that every instance of anger is based on fear? That would take a monumentally unusual stretch of what the word, "fear" means.

How would fear leading to anger even remotely imply that it's the only source of anger?

It doesn't. I just want to know others see that.

There is evidence (including brain imaging studies) that the anger tied to conservatism is fear-based.

But, actually there is also an argument to be made that all anger is closely tied to fear.
Fear and Anger are reactions to feelings of being threatened, which could be argued is a feeling that constitutes the core primal elements of fear. They share massive levels of specific neural activation, and differ primarily in terms of whether the contextual factors around the threat favor reducing the threat by attacking it (anger) versus fleeing from it (fear). IOW, the difference between them is mostly a difference in the subjectivity tied to bodily preparations to attack or flee, rather than in the core feeling of being threatened that underlies both.
Also, in most contexts, there is a mixture of action options that change by the millisecond, such as when an attack fails and retreat is needed, or when flight fails and one much turn and defend. Thus, people likely toggle from moment to moment between outward expressions of fear and anger that share a similar core emotional state.

So, in the absence of perceived or actual threat, anger and fear are minimal, but should a fight or flight response manifest to such perceived or actual threat, there could be altering states of anger and fear depending on the dominant emotional state of the moment. And, we have evidence to support such purported facts along with actual arguments. Lovely.

 

[Nice Squirrel]

Somehow, someway, someone, is gonna say that what underlies your anger is fear. If you wern't so damned scared of something, then, well, you would be so happy right now. Grow some balls so you won't be scared and therefore angry. Lol.

- - - Updated - - -

Is fear the only source of anger? I'm being told that anger is a by-product of fear, and if that is so, then we can sometimes expect one's fear to lead to anger, but that does not imply that all anger is a function of fear. Besides, doesn't it sound kinda silly to think that every instance of anger is based on fear? That would take a monumentally unusual stretch of what the word, "fear" means.

How would fear leading to anger even remotely imply that it's the only source of anger?

It doesn't. I just want to know others see that.

There is evidence (including brain imaging studies) that the anger tied to conservatism is fear-based.

But, actually there is also an argument to be made that all anger is closely tied to fear.
Fear and Anger are reactions to feelings of being threatened, which could be argued is a feeling that constitutes the core primal elements of fear. They share massive levels of specific neural activation, and differ primarily in terms of whether the contextual factors around the threat favor reducing the threat by attacking it (anger) versus fleeing from it (fear). IOW, the difference between them is mostly a difference in the subjectivity tied to bodily preparations to attack or flee, rather than in the core feeling of being threatened that underlies both.
Also, in most contexts, there is a mixture of action options that change by the millisecond, such as when an attack fails and retreat is needed, or when flight fails and one much turn and defend. Thus, people likely toggle from moment to moment between outward expressions of fear and anger that share a similar core emotional state.

I see anger as more tied to frustration and a feeling of helplessness.

 

[repoman]

This is why:

 

[zorq]

I see anger as more tied to frustration and a feeling of helplessness.

I agree, but I think anger is more closely tied to feelings of unfairness and injustice. For example, I don't think prople with road rage are not worried about other motorists hurting them. I think they feel unjustly slighted or insulted by the behavior of other motorists.

Road ragers think: "Why did you cut me off? I am an important person, and I deserve more respect than that."
They don't think: "Why did you cut me off? You could have killed me."

[url="https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2014/09/18/349514734/life-s-unfair-but-chimps-and-humans-know-when-to-even-the-score&ved=0ahUKEwii5s6IuZDKAhVD8GMKHYIFBXYQFggeMAE&usg=AFQjCNF2K4iwUqi9FAPN_JCb-veKi6YcTw&sig2=U4xaqGMoaDEVb9SYm2sSEA]Here is an article about fairness and chimps [/url]

Differences in the social hierarchy also played a role, she says. Dominant chimps were angrier when they were on the receiving end of a lesser reward than those lower in the pecking order.

If humans are anything like chimps, this certainly doesn't rebut my hypothesies about the death of the american dream and the greatness of america I made back at the beginning of the thread.

 

[dismal]

Well, I can't speak for all white people, but for example, this morning I opened my floor safe to count the cash I've accumulated thanks to my white priviledge, and the rubber band on the roll of bills suddenly broke and snapped the back of my hand somethin' fierce. Ouch! Why can't they make decent rubber bands these days?!!

But article says it's the poors that are angriest, and the women.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Calculus should be a required course so people do not make such silly mistakes as confusing a value of a function with its rate of change. The two bolded portions do not mean the same thing dear NBC journalists.

Valid point. However, they do present other results more relevant to the claim: "Seventy-three percent of whites said they get angry at least once per day, compared with 66 percent of Hispanics and 56 percent of blacks."

This makes sense. More white people in the white collar world, which means more white people have to work with AutoCAD, which certainly would make anyone angry.

 

[T.G.G. Moogly]

http://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/poll-whites-republicans-rank-angriest-americans-n488636

Nearly half of Americans are angry, and no groups are angrier than whites and Republicans, according to a new NBC News/Survey Monkey/Esquire online poll about outrage in the country.

Overall, 49 percent of Americans said they find themselves feeling angrier now about current events than they were one year ago. Whites are the angriest, with 54 percent saying they have grown more outraged over the past year. That's more than Latinos (43 percent) and African-Americans (33 percent).

They're angry like a spoiled brat is angry.

 

[thebeave]

Well, I can't speak for all white people, but for example, this morning I opened my floor safe to count the cash I've accumulated thanks to my white priviledge, and the rubber band on the roll of bills suddenly broke and snapped the back of my hand somethin' fierce. Ouch! Why can't they make decent rubber bands these days?!!

But article says it's the poors that are angriest, and the women.

There are poor white people?