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Who should HRC pick for her VP?
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Don2 (Don1 Revised)
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If that happens, perhaps Ralf Nader in drag could run as the third party ticket.
Tristan Scott
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What Bernie Sanders and akirk don't realize is that only a fool would not take advice from Kissinger in regards to the pitfalls and dangers involved with nuclear weapons. Kissinger was a villain in many ways, but he is one of the few people in the world that truly understands the balance and care that must be maintained while 30,000 nuclear weapons are being maintained ready to be deployed around the world. This is not an arena for amateurs.
For example, an amateur may just say we should just go ahead with disarmament, not realizing that the fewer warheads there are the more unstable the whole thing becomes.
For example, an amateur may just say we should just go ahead with disarmament, not realizing that the fewer warheads there are the more unstable the whole thing becomes.
^this
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Knowles_(politician)
Alaska has some sane politicians.
Alaska has some sane politicians.
My question is whether those Sanders Supporters for Trump would ACTUALLY vote FOR Trump as opposed to just staying home. It would take a special kind of spite to actually vote FOR Trump if Sanders loses.
In addition, they need to add the libertarian to that poll.
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Gary Johnson (L) in the Morning Consult poll in the general election is at 10%
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Johnson in the Florida poll is 6 pts. Clinton has a 3 pt lead. About 7 pts undecided.
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Yet in 2012, Gary Johnson (L) received 1% of the general election actual vote; and only 0.53% in Florida.
Jason Harvestdancer
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The LP numbers always go down as we get closer to the election. They start out this high as people are dissatisfied with the two party choices, and they are higher than normal this time around because the choices are Trump and Hillary. But they will go down as we get closer to the election.
Tristan Scott
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Libertarians tend to favor the GOP, I know the Libertarian party would not agree with that, but thats the way it is because the GOP claims to favor a smaller Federal government. (Although, anyone who actually works for the government will tell you that this is not true-the only party in the past who has tried to reform civil service and the way the various departments spend money is the democratic party. You can also see this by the enormous deficits the republicans accumulate-nobody likes to spend like the republican party!)With this in mind I predict that if more libertarians vote for Johnson this year it will hurt Trump more than the Democratic nominee.
Jason Harvestdancer
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Whatever. With this as your introductory statement, there's no reason to read any further. Nothing of value could possibly follow such a negative value start.
Tristan Scott
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I should have said, people who identify themselves as libertarians, as opposed to true, Harvestdancer approved libertarians.
Jason Harvestdancer
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That does nothing to improve the value of your statement.
Harry Bosch
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Tristan: you are completely 100% wrong. Unless, you look at the facts!
Jason, just spend 10 minutes on google and you'll see the light:
http://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/examining-libertarian-vote-depth
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Jason Harvestdancer
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I'm familiar with all the polls.
Fine print: even though these people do NOT self-identify as libertarians, we are calling them libertarians in this poll, and that proves that libertarians support Republicans. Also, we have polled 1,000 self-identifying libertarians, two of them support the Republicans and one of them supports the Democrats, proving that Republicans are favored by a 2 to 1 margin.
Try again.
I hereby and for the remainder of this post alone define EVERYBODY on this board as a libertarian. That proves libertarians overwhelmingly support the Democrats over the Republicans. If I were to conduct a poll asking which party people on this board favor, the results would be overwhelmingly Democratic, proving that libertarians overwhelmingly support the Democrats.
Fine print: even though these people do NOT self-identify as libertarians, we are calling them libertarians in this poll, and that proves that libertarians support Republicans. Also, we have polled 1,000 self-identifying libertarians, two of them support the Republicans and one of them supports the Democrats, proving that Republicans are favored by a 2 to 1 margin.
Try again.
I hereby and for the remainder of this post alone define EVERYBODY on this board as a libertarian. That proves libertarians overwhelmingly support the Democrats over the Republicans. If I were to conduct a poll asking which party people on this board favor, the results would be overwhelmingly Democratic, proving that libertarians overwhelmingly support the Democrats.
laughing dog
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I think HRC should pick a real libertarian as her VP candidate to show up the Libertarian party. In your opinion, which libertarian would make a good VP candidate?
Tristan Scott
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Yeah.
I don't think Jason is moved by facts.
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He'd probably say Ron Paul...oops! I guess he's a Republican too, huh?
Harry Bosch
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The problem is that Sanders is focused on attacking Hillary and the democratic "establishment". The VP role in elections is generally to be the pitbull and attack the opposition. I think that HRC needs someone loyal who will attack Trump and his looniness.
Don2 (Don1 Revised)
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*crickets*